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Offlineglassdanse
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Mescaline
    #4139340 - 05/05/05 09:34 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

what forms can mescaline come in, which is more commonly available and how can you preform a mescaline extraction on san pedro peruvan and peyote cactus


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Re: Mescaline [Re: glassdanse]
    #4139392 - 05/05/05 09:53 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Why not try searching for the information yourself instead of expecting someone to sit here and explain ALL of that to you. If you type in mescaline in the search you'll have great results. I know MJshroomer has a great step by step guide for a san pedro extarction and theres countless other threads about it.


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Re: Mescaline [Re: glassdanse]
    #4139394 - 05/05/05 09:53 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

As far as I have heard, Mescaline if bought on the street is rarely real Mescaline. But if you are lucky enough to have a reliable source, most likely it would be in a pill form.

Use the search function, I am sure that there are many threads pertaining to your other questions. :smile:

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Re: Mescaline [Re: glassdanse]
    #4139434 - 05/05/05 10:00 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

what vandango said

mescaline is not the only beneficial ingredient found in cacti

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Re: Mescaline [Re: glassdanse]
    #4142401 - 05/06/05 03:15 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I follow MjShroomer's San Pedro preparation method, and its been successful and brought me and my friends great experiences on three separate occasions. Highly recommended.

Thanks again MJ!


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Re: Mescaline [Re: glassdanse]
    #4143959 - 05/06/05 10:02 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

A "hit" of mescaline would be at least 500 mgs, or half a gram of mescaline hydrochloride... That would be enough to fill two 00 capsules or two capsules the size of two extra-strength Tylenols for comparison.
Only Mescaline sulfate has a lower active dosage @ 350 mgs. And both ARE rare as stated before.


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Re: Mescaline [Re: glassdanse]
    #4143984 - 05/06/05 10:12 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Go to General Questions, and check this out:



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Re: Mescaline [Re: gdman]
    #4157053 - 05/10/05 12:53 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

500 mgs in 2 capsules? those must be pretty small capsules.

mescaline comes in a salt form, so its basicaly a white powder, though it can be pinkish if the chemist used too much acid.

but you have a better chance of winning the lottery than aquiring pure mesc.


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Re: Mescaline [Re: Abermelin]
    #4158054 - 05/10/05 05:10 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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500 mgs in 2 capsules? those must be pretty small capsules.

mescaline comes in a salt form, so its basicaly a white powder, though it can be pinkish if the chemist used too much acid.





Oh you again, what the hell are you talking about?  Since this thread was essentially pointless to begin with I don't think I'm taking anything away from it by being a bit off-topic.  Probably adding something even.

Seriously, "can be pinkish if the chemist used too much acid..."  Where did you hear that?  A pill which holds 250mg is small?  Have you ever left your mom's basement, or does she feed you through a slot in the door?

MOD EDIT: c'mon, no need to call anyone's mother a slot :wink: Seriously, this post is leaning towards flaming and that doesnt fly, you know that.


Edited by Wiccan_Seeker (05/19/05 12:15 PM)


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    #4172942 - 05/14/05 12:10 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Mescaline [Re: mtw397]
    #4178600 - 05/15/05 04:06 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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also does anyone know if the san pedro mescaline extraction guides will work the same for the peruvian torch cactus?




All cactus alkaloid extractions are essentially identical.


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Re: Mescaline [Re: ChuangTzu]
    #4179419 - 05/15/05 08:06 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

why dont any chemists synthesize mescal into the more active salts?
is it more difficult to do than make lsd?
I can imagine that it wouldnt be since one can find it in cacti everywhere. Im curious as to why mescaline isnt being sold on the streets when it can be obtained more readily than lucy.


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Re: Mescaline [Re: sploogepanz55]
    #4179585 - 05/15/05 08:56 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

My guess would be that the Demand isn't there. Cause serioously, only people that are truely interested in exploring psychedelics would have a real interest. At least in my opinion... most people don't even know what mescaline is besides maybe hearing about in Fear and Loathing or something like that. Then again, what do I know?


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Re: Mescaline [Re: diablovt1125]
    #4179846 - 05/15/05 10:00 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Probably because whether it's extracted or synthesized... it's still going to be much more expensive than most people would want for a trip. I've heard the estimate of 50-100 dollars thrown around a lot. Much more than most would want to spend.


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Re: Mescaline [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #4181813 - 05/16/05 12:50 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

This is a good extraction to get pure mesc depending on how able you are to follow directions. http://archives.thenook.org/tek/extracti.htm
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Re: Mescaline [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #4181862 - 05/16/05 01:04 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

it's still going to be much more expensive than most people would want for a trip. I've heard the estimate of 50-100 dollars thrown around a lot. Much more than most would want to spend.


Not true. For someone who has the proper knowledge, has plenty of access to the right cacti. On a cost per dose level. It would be relatively inexpensive to to an extraction.

Edited to add: On the other hand. A mescaline synthesis could be rather costly.


Edited by OrangeVWCamper (05/16/05 04:16 PM)


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Re: Mescaline [Re: crazyman]
    #4184144 - 05/16/05 10:35 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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A "hit" of mescaline would be at least 500 mgs, or half a gram of mescaline hydrochloride... That would be enough to fill two 00 capsules or two capsules the size of two extra-strength Tylenols for comparison.
Only Mescaline sulfate has a lower active dosage @ 350 mgs. And both ARE rare as stated before.




I fit quite a bit more mescaline hcl in the 00 capsules that I have. As a matter of fact, I easily fit 400mg into one with plenty of room left over.

Oral Mescaline HCl Dosages
Threshold 100 mg
Light 100 - 200 mg
Common 200 - 300 mg
Strong 300 - 500 mg
Heavy 500 - 700 mg

A "hit" of mescaline would be at least 100 mg.
500 mg would be a strong to heavy dose.(The way I like it, by the way).

I also find it quite interesting that you believe that mescaline sulfate has a lower active dosage. Here is a quote from erowid about the difference between the hydrochloride and sulfate salts.
"The two most commonly produced synthetic forms of mescaline are mescaline hydrochloride and mescaline sulfate which have very similar dosages. Mescaline sulfate is 11% heavier than mescaline hydrochloride, meaning it takes 11% _more_ mescaline sulfate by weight to get the same effects as a certain amount of mescaline hydrochloride." - http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mescaline/mescaline_dose.shtml


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Re: Mescaline [Re: Ekstaza]
    #4193593 - 05/19/05 01:44 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

hmm. while im sure dxm and mescaline have different densities. i can pack just under 600mg of dxm into a size 0 gel cap, and just under 800mg into a size 00 gel cap. this is when filling the body as well as the head of the pill, and packing it in as i go.


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Re: Mescaline [Re: Ekstaza]
    #4194399 - 05/19/05 09:17 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

How do you get Mescaline HCI if you don't mind me asking? Is there an a/b alkaliod extraction for it?


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Re: Mescaline [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #4194857 - 05/19/05 12:17 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

there is, but all the procedures i've seen call for some kind of non-polar solvent that might be tough to get a hold of. (you know where to buy xylene?)


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