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Mitrous
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Mescaline in Montreal?
#7307732 - 08/18/07 01:46 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have never actually found any though i have been looking for a long time. I know its probably easy to find it in the states but it sucks because no one around here knows what it is! :'(
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Robo
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Re: Mescaline in Montreal? [Re: Mitrous]
#7307738 - 08/18/07 01:47 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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good luck finding mescaline on the street, it probably wont happen.
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RobMarley420
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Re: Mescaline in Montreal? [Re: Robo]
#7307747 - 08/18/07 01:49 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, if you want mescaline your gonna have to extract it yourself. If you do find anything on the street it'll probably turn out to be a research chemical.
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Mitrous
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I dont know much on the subject but how can i make or get mescaline?
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Re: Mescaline in Montreal? [Re: Mitrous]
#7307764 - 08/18/07 01:54 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Order some San Pedro cactus online and then search the Shroomery for "mescaline extraction made easy". Follow what it tells you to do in the thread and you'll end up with this:

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Mitrous
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Alright But besides the cactus what else do i need to buy?
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Re: Mescaline in Montreal? [Re: Mitrous]
#7307805 - 08/18/07 02:06 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you want you could just eat the cactus straight but you'll have lots of nausea. Or you could do a simple alcohol extraction where you'll only need to buy alcohol. But if you want mescaline crystals like my pics you need to buy some supplies. Search the shroomery for "mescaline extraction made easy", that will tell you everything you need. And use toluene instead of xylene, it's easier to work with.
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Mitrous
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Alright but last question what kind of alcohol do i need exactly?
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Re: Mescaline in Montreal? [Re: Mitrous]
#7307823 - 08/18/07 02:14 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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99% isopropyl alcohol
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Re: Mescaline in Montreal? [Re: Mitrous]
#7307824 - 08/18/07 02:15 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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everclear works very well. And you can get drunk off the left over everclear . Its perfect.
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Edited by Helge (08/18/07 02:17 PM)
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RobMarley420
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Re: Mescaline in Montreal? [Re: Helge]
#7307836 - 08/18/07 02:21 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, you can use everclear or 91% iso if you can't find the 99% but the 99% will leave you with the cleanest/purest results.
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Quote:
dingleberrysalad said: If you want you could just eat the cactus straight but you'll have lots of nausea. Or you could do a simple alcohol extraction where you'll only need to buy alcohol. But if you want mescaline crystals like my pics you need to buy some supplies. Search the shroomery for "mescaline extraction made easy", that will tell you everything you need. And use toluene instead of xylene, it's easier to work with.
Or you could just grow Pedros, slice them, blend, heat, and filter for the traditional method.
Sooner or later scammers will be cutting research chemicals with vitamins in an effort to pass them off as the real-deal, to avoid this one must perform their own acid/base extraction.
Here's a quick run-down of the chemical side of things:
#1. Fill your tub caustic reagents. AKA Bathtub Gin.

#2. Do the extraction in under two days due to time constraints, all the while feeling as though you're living in a meth house.... pull solvents, salt with drive-way cleaner and evaporate in a pyrex dish.

#3. Scrape up the crystals.

#4. Use industrial strenght nail-polish remover to clean alien particulate matters.

#5. Re-evaporate and scrape again.


~ 1 gram of rabbit sex extract. Enjoy.
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Re: Mescaline in Montreal? [Re: schmutzen]
#7309727 - 08/19/07 07:07 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Try this extraction tek. It's the simplest full extraction that I've found. It doesn't require a seperatory funnel and it's written in simple step-by-step recipe style wording.
Things you'll need:
1.at least 2 glass or HDPE(should show a triangular recycle symbol with a 2 inside of it somewhere on the bottom) plastic jugs or jars. HDPE is preferred because strong lye solutions will etch glass and cause it to break eventually. I know first hand.
2. 100% pure lye (reagent grade is best if you can get it)
3. Muriatic acid (HCL or hydrochloric acid)
4. Acetone
5. Xylene
6. turkey baster
7. a glass or stainless steel funnel
8. cotton balls
9. a short piece of fish tank air tubing
all easy to get items (use NO aluminum)
You should not use any type of open flame at any point during this extraction. Use adequate ventilation at all times.
Preparing your cactus You'll want to begin with dry powdered cactus if you can. You can dry slices of cactus in the oven with low heat and then use a coffee grinder to powderize it. NOTEI've experience a severe reaction to breathing the powder. It screws up my sinuses for a week or two. I'd suggest using a face mask to prevent it being inhaled. Also I have noticed irritation to the eyes if the dust comes in contact with them. Be careful.
Extracting Prepare a solution of lye water by slowly mixing together 1 TBS of lye for every pint(8 TBS/gallon) of cold water that you think you'll need to completely cover you dry cactus. This will produce a little heat so don't be alarmed. Just swirl it around slowly as you add the lye a little at a time. This is what I will refer to as base or basic water.
Next add you dry cactus powder(100grams of powder in each gallon jug was used for this extraction). Mix the contents thoroughly to ensure that you expose all of the powder to the basic water.
Now add about a pint or so of xylene to the mix. You want enough of a layer to be able to draw off the xylene with the turkey baster later. Shake it all up and let it sit for an hour. This is what it will look like just after shaking.
If after an hour you can see that the xylene layer is separating back out, fine, if not, add a little more pre-made basic water and check again. Now shake it back up and put it away for 24 hours (every second of it). This is after three hours.
24 hours later, you want to draw off the xylene so now you need to use the turkey baster to suck it up and put it in a new jar(a mason jar works fine). You don't want any of the water from beneath the xylene to come with it.
The way that you draw up the xylene without it dripping back into the jug is the put about 6" of fish tank air tubing in the end of the baster. You may have to cut a bit on the baster to get it to fit, but be careful not to cut too much as you need the tube to fit snug. When drawing xylene out you should keep one hand on the bulb of the baster and one on the tube for maximum control of the tube and so that you can pinch the tube with your thumb and forefinger while lifting it out of the jug.
and put it into your salting bottles. (You want to rinse the turkey baster and the tubing thoroughly after each use with hot water)
Optional Additional Cleaning step (Originally left out of the pictoral because I do not perform this task. This step helps to remove some of the chlorophyl and plant fats from the xylene.) Add lye water, about 1/4 the volume of your xylene, to the xylene in the salting bottles/jars. Give this a good shake and allow it to settle back out into two layers. It's probably best to let it sit for a few hours to separate completely. Place the bottle/jar into the freezer and allow the lye water to freeze solid. Once the water is frozen solid, pour off the xylene into another container suitable for salting.
Salting Now you want to mix your acid water in order to dilute it to the proper strength you want. Be very careful not to breath the vapors that come out of the bottle when you open it. HCL comes very strong and it will burn you.
You want to add approximately 4-6 drops of HCL acid to 1.5 cups of water. Slowly add this acid water to the xylene while gently swirling the liquids around in the jar. Add just enough to make a half inch or so layer beneath the xylene.
Don't worry that you won't get all of the goods because the xylene is going back into the extraction bottle and you'll get another shot at what you missed before. Put the lid on the jar and shake it all up. Wait a few minutes and shake again.
Once it has returned completely to a separated state loosen the lid on the jar and place it in the freezer. You want the bottom layer(the acid water) to now freeze solid. The xylene will not freeze. Once the water is frozen, work quickly and pour the xylene back into the extraction bottle.
With the water still frozen solid, pour in a little warm water and swirl around and discard quickly. This helps get rid of a little more residual xylene. The rest will evaporate later.
Repeat the extraction and salting steps 4 to 6 times to get all of the goodies. You can reuse the xylene over and over again.
Evaporating Now thaw out the water and put it in you evaporation dish. A large flat bottomed pyrex dish works best. Using heat(heating pad beneath the dish) or not, fan dry it to evaporate the water from the dish. This may take some time depending on how much water you used.
Once all of this is dry you will see a crystalline residue left on the dish. This pic shows off a mistake that I made and one that some of you may make also. On the right side of the dish you can see a huge brown spot. This happened because I used too much hcl acid in the salting step. This, however, is not a big problem. It will all be gone after the cleaning step, plus much of it evaporated with the water. I might could have even avoided some of the discoloration by evaporating slower, giving the hcl more time to evaporate.
Scrape it off with a razor blade. It will be a brownish powder. This is from the first scraping from the first salting. It actually turned out much better than I normally expect.
It can be used as is but the next procedure is simple if you've got this far.
Cleaning Put a cotton ball in the spout end of your funnel so that it can filter.
Mix some acetone with your extracted alkaloids. I use a mason jar so that I can swirl it around easily. You want to get every piece of mescaline washed with acetone, so mix it in good.
Next, pour it into the funnel with a clean dry jar to catch the liquids. Use acetone to wash loose needles, that remain in the jar, into the funnel.
You will notice some color draining through with the acetone. Wash like this with fresh acetone until little to no more color is draining through. Put the funnel somewhere to dry.
Once all acetone smell is gone from the funnel and it's contents you need to pour some hot water into it with it positioned over the evaporation dish. The hot water will dissolve the crystals and allow them to flow through the cotton into the dish.
Evaporate as before. The resulting crystals will be considerably whiter and more pure. This is not only for aesthetics, but also it makes for more accurate dosing.
You can put this powder in capsules to facilitate simple dosing with pre-measured amounts in each capsule. Look to www.erowid.com for dosing guidelines.
This is the best extraction I've seen, though you could find various ways to do it already posted here.
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Re: Mescaline in Montreal? [Re: EllisDSox]
#7310003 - 08/19/07 09:34 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Does the trip feel much different than eating straight cactus.
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RobMarley420
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Re: Mescaline in Montreal? [Re: schmutzen]
#7310524 - 08/19/07 12:40 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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namaste said: #2. Do the extraction in under two days due to time constraints, all the while feeling as though you're living in a meth house....
That's true, it does feel like your living in a meth lab for a couple days.
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