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OfflineOldWoodSpecter
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incest
    #4119253 - 05/01/05 05:32 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

ok, I'll do it then..

here it is, let's discuss it...


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Re: incest [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4119262 - 05/01/05 05:38 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Really? You would do incest? :lol:

The thought of it digust me becuase its purly a natural biological reflux to feel disgust at the thought of having sex with close relatives. Its natures way of warning you against the genetic mutations of incestuous inbreeding. If you can overlook that warning and conditon yourself to go through with the act, then you are basically going against nature's good advice. But im sure someone will come up with some examples of incestuous relationships in the wild. But the fact is that it does'nt occur unless a species has a rapidly deminsihing population and is struggling for survival.


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Re: incest [Re: egghead1]
    #4119265 - 05/01/05 05:39 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

becuase its purly a natural biological reflux

Reference please. I would wager there is no such instinct.


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Re: incest [Re: egghead1]
    #4119314 - 05/01/05 05:54 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

/points to some southern states notorious for incest.

Guess nature forget about them.


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Re: incest [Re: Psychoactive1984]
    #4119337 - 05/01/05 06:01 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I think nature has a different way of dealing with those prone to incest, they simply die out because of genetic illnesses if any, so I think the disguist is social rather than genetic.


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Re: incest [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4119346 - 05/01/05 06:03 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Yup... it's certainly more of a social rather then a biological function, we can look towards Egypt where the concept was seen in a very positive light.

Nature dealt with them fine as well... has some retarded Pharoah's that fucked everything up.


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Re: incest [Re: Psychoactive1984]
    #4119361 - 05/01/05 06:08 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Inces MAY cause problems, but it also may be harmless in case of child birth..just sex is a different thing, in sex it doesn't matter because you don't bring any children to the world


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Re: incest [Re: Psychoactive1984]
    #4119371 - 05/01/05 06:11 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

has some retarded Pharoah's that fucked everything up.

Compared to America's brilliant leaders...  :rolleyes:


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Re: incest [Re: Psychoactive1984]
    #4119374 - 05/01/05 06:12 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Psychoactive1984 said:
Yup... it's certainly more of a social rather then a biological function, we can look towards Egypt where the concept was seen in a very positive light.

Nature dealt with them fine as well... has some retarded Pharoah's that fucked everything up.




Im staring to consider whether the disgust associated with this act  is an immative instinct brought about by social conditons. In essence a socailly conditonied reaction which immitates an instinctive repsonse. But i am doing some further reasearch into this, in an attempt at possibly proving Swami wrong. :grin:


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Re: incest [Re: egghead1]
    #4119393 - 05/01/05 06:18 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Even if you prove Swami wrong, such instinct is not present in him, so the argument to follow instincts falls in watter, because he has nothing there to follow.

I'm not a fan of incest, but I admit there are no arguments for or against it other than pleasing social morality


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Re: incest [Re: Swami]
    #4119401 - 05/01/05 06:20 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

:lol::thumbup: The sad thing is I think that is "natural".... which is bad as their isn't much of an excuse for the stupidity exhibited.


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"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
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Re: incest [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4119409 - 05/01/05 06:21 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Your talking about incest without pregnancy correct e.g. just the sexual act?


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"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
-It's ok to trip as long as you don't fall.
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Re: incest [Re: Psychoactive1984]
    #4119411 - 05/01/05 06:22 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Is it? An awfull lot of your presidents have a southern-ish accent


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Re: incest [Re: egghead1]
    #4119416 - 05/01/05 06:23 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I have no such instinct of repulsion. My family just doesn't turn me on. But if I grew up with a knockout sister. In my youth, if nobody said one thing about it or another and she was willing, then well... :thumbup:

Swamis right about this one. :mushroom2:


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Re: incest [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4119425 - 05/01/05 06:25 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

:lol:


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"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
-It's ok to trip as long as you don't fall.
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Re: incest [Re: Psychoactive1984]
    #4119427 - 05/01/05 06:25 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Yes I find no arguments against just sex in family (without child) if it is wanted by both sides

It is as strange and wierd to me as it is to anybody, but that is not a reason to judge others for doing it


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Re: incest [Re: Icelander]
    #4119428 - 05/01/05 06:25 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Gives family bonding a new meaning eh?


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"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
-It's ok to trip as long as you don't fall.
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Re: incest [Re: Icelander]
    #4119432 - 05/01/05 06:26 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I think Swami is dead on as well. This is a social phenomenon. There have been cultures where this is considered normal.


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Re: incest [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4119433 - 05/01/05 06:26 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah... its kind of like of like shagging a bunch of prostitutes that you know all have aids, and not using any protection though....

Not much good can come from the situation.


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"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
-It's ok to trip as long as you don't fall.
-Substance over Style.
-Common sense is uncommon.


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Re: incest [Re: Psychoactive1984]
    #4119446 - 05/01/05 06:29 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

When compared to sex with prostitutes, I find family sex more acceptable because at least its honest and personal


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