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Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!!
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The Shroomery needed help and boy did the community deliver! I awoke today feeling a little bummed out about the future thinking I had screwed up and that the Shroomery would be shut for a period of time while I figured out a way to fix the current problems. So I asked for help from the bottom of my heart, and you all came through in shining colours!

This is me and 3D's first time running a website, we've learned a lot so far, but obviously there are things we aren't doing well enough.. But what we've said from the start is that we care a lot about this place, and we will do everything we can to make it better and of course to ensure its survival.

We are both students, and outside of here we have busy lives, but we both enjoy doing what we do and its days like this I am reminded of how much this place means to us all.

My message may have been dramatic, but its what I feared seeing as the start of the month was coming and I honestly couldn't have imagined the overwhelming support we got in just one day!

I promise you all that not only will this dontation push save us, but that this will be a good wake up call for us in regards to financing this site. I will make sure that this place becomes self-sufficient and that the future of this wonderfull community is safe for a long time to come.

So my thanks to you all! I truly have been touched today by your generosity and you can all thank yourselves for helping out the shroomery in its time of need!

You people rock, and now we can go on with our shroomery lives knowing our home is safe.



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Webmaster of the Shroomery
thor@shroomery.org
http://www.shroomery.org

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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: Thor]
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Shit, and I thought you guys were going to have to hire Jerry Lewis.

Leaf


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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: ]
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He was unavailable, but we did get carrot top on board, just that we would rather poke our eyes out with hot needless than have to even look at him :wink:

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thor@shroomery.org
http://www.shroomery.org

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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: Thor]
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can you turn html back on?
fucking moochers


"REPENT you evil bastard Untied Statians, you!!" quote source removed by Thor



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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: PGF]
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That will cost you, say another $1000 dollars :wink:

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thor@shroomery.org
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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: Thor]
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Have you considered the shroomery hoodie idea thor?


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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: alen]
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yes, i would love you forever and ever for a shroomery hooded sweatshirt.

larry

I'm only a man
In a silly red sheet
digging for kyptonite on this one way street


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Sunset_Mission said:
"larry the scary rex
verily scary when thoroughly vexed
invoke the shadows and dust, cast a hex
mercifully massacring memories masterfully
relocate from Ur to 8th density and become a cosmic bully
mulder and scully couldn't decipher his glyphs
invoke the shadows and dust, smoke infernal spliffs"
April 24th 2011

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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: alen]
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Definately going to look into that, would be great for the winter coming up!

Great idea, thanks!

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thor@shroomery.org
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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: NuShroomPharmerII]
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NuShroomPharmer, I just read that thread and a few things are apparent to me.

1. The shroomery needs a lot more bandwidth than the forestfloor.

2. You don't know what you're talking about.

3. You are a prick.



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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: NuShroomPharmerII]
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The shroomery needs about 100 gigabytes of bandwidth per month. How much bandwidth does that company you listed use? And who hosts them?



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"If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do."-King Solomon

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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: NuShroomPharmerII]
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Just wanted to echo Rail Gun and say that NuShroom is indeed a prick. You have the balls to slam and slander the place that gives you a good chunk of your business for $40/month? Why is it I get the impression that some spore vendors feel like the Shroomery owes them something? They owe you NOTHING because if you think the Shroomery is ripping you off then the solution is simple: fuck off and don't come back. Negative assholes like you are the scourge of this place. And I must add that I deeply resent the comment you made about Thor spending Shroomery money on the gathering so "people will like him". Not one single penny of Shroomery money went towards that event so shut the fuck up.

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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: Scratcher]
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Thanks Scratch, not to mention Scratcher paid out of his own pocket to fund the gathering, unlike some he really cares about this community.

Nushroom, I thought you were leaving, unless I read your post wrong in suggestion forum you said to delete your account...

Yeah, I will lose one vendor this stunt, you :smile:

Ironic how the only negetive reaction to the fund raiser was nushroom, lets sing "I see your true colours shining through"

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thor@shroomery.org
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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: Thor]
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Hey........... I do not see why do you show all this negativity to Nu............ is he a bad guy or something?

afterall you are all good people sometimes
~Crobih

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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: Scratcher]
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You go scratcher!! kick some ass!! Get out of here nushroomer.
Good job Thor, I knew we would pull through. You have done an exellent job, and I admire that. I feel this is a safe place with you calling the shot's. Now just a bit more exitment in the gathering furrum..... and were on our way:)lol
Good job everyone. I think the shirt and hoody idea is one of the best. Sell them, and the profit can go to the shroomery. I bet you would do quite well with that. I'll buy one, and I'm sure all my freinds would too(They love this place). "Oh, Ian's on his shroomery again":) They will buy one. Thx Thor, for doing such a good job. I can't say how gratefull I am for all your work, to make my favorite community a good one. Keep it up.
Glacius

www.thehawkseye.com
Mystic mountain mushrooms
Free Spore Ring(FSR)
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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: Crobih]
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Scratcher comes from a long line of whale killing canuckians. He can not help his obsessions with blasting nushroom.

Crobih, let this be a lesson to you that in a monarchy like shroomery, if you bad mouth peoples that the admin likes, you will be outcast. In democracy people could openly make suggestions to better their site without getting yelled out by whale killers.

If some admin puts a problem out in the open like they have, they should be prepared for some criticism, agreed?

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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: PGF]
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damn straight, all these people who claim to "question authority" and "dont believe the media" all the time are just hypocrites..........thor is authority, just an authority that you agree with......hypothetically speaking, if your local news anchor said the local news was to going to have to close down shop because of lack of funds, would you think its just some capatalistic ploy by some fatcats to scam consumers out of more money, or just honest ol' channel 2 asking for some help from the people??.......somehow i dont think your responses would be the same to the local news station as they would be to the shroomery



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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: Thor]
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For $299 per month, shouldnt you be able to set up your own server with as much bandwith as you could ever use with a dsl connection and as much space, ram, etc you would need.  I am taking a computer class and within the last couple weeks I have learned enough to build my own server, I just need to know how to network it.

I do indeed plan on setting up my own server with a dsl or better connection in about 6 months.  I plan on having 1032+ ram, 1.4 ghz+ cpu, and oodles of hard drive space.  With one what I hear you pay in one month for this site, you could pay me for a year, and that is to pay for my maintanence of the server, and adding the programs you would use, and to pay partially for the components which are not that cheap (save for the ram, of course, that is dirt cheap).

I am not saying any of this would happen, but it seems to me that if $299 is indeed what you are paying, you should be able to set up your own server based upon the donations you recieved and a bit more out of pocket cash and not have to worry about monthly fees again, only for connection and electricity.

I dunno, I think I am just dreming.

I admit it, Im a fungal-feliac :wink:
Support the FSR!


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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: PGF]
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PGF, Agreed.
I not believe in authorites, same as you or tom or tec-9.
All I know PGF, that I would not be that nice as thor is, but I would be more correct, with less wining all around. PGF, agree?


afterall you are all good people sometimes
~Crobih

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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: Crobih]
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man, i am relieved... i just couldn?t picture a life without a shroomery... there would be something missing... i?m glad this worked out... thanx thor and 3d for the excellent job... and thanks to the people who donated for keeping this place alive...

take care

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"Heaven--as you call it--is nowhere. Let?s just put some space between the w and the h in that word and you?ll see that heaven is now...here." -God


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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: In(di)go]
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I like the sweatshirt idea, i would buy one. :)

-baraka


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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: pyromaniac]
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the only problem with setting up a site like that (off of dsl) is that its a relatively small "pipe" for lots of people to use at one time. I'm sure the server they have is on a major backbone with at least dual t3's if not oc3's

- Bill Goat


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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: un0r]
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Yeap, people don't realize that dedicated server hosting is not cheap, you can get decent packages for around $300, but we had to get a bunch of 'add ons' to speed up our site, like added RAM which costs a stupid extra $150 a month added to our base package.

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thor@shroomery.org
http://www.shroomery.org

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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: Thor]
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Damn it looks like I missed a lot at work today. I just got home. Do you guys still need any more money Thor?


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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: Lucid420]
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Yeah, a lot happened in a few days. Nope we are good to go, of course any donations are appreciated :smile:.

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thor@shroomery.org
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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: pyromaniac]
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the problem with all that is for their monthly fee the're getting about 100g worth of transfer, at probably oc12 speeds (thats something like 256mbit/sec, if not more. I never really bothered to memorize all the speeds)

DSL will max out at 7mbit up and down, for 1.4mbit up/down it costs around anywhere between 250 and 500$ depending on where you live, not to mention your gonna need more then one for redundancy in case one goes down.

Although your right on with the building your own server, except then you need to be half way proficiant with unix and networking. (except your gonna be putting 1024MB ram not 1032)

I did some pricing on different speed lines when we opened our computer store, the fastest line available to us is a T3 (several times slower then the shroomerys current net connection) and the telco wanted some 15,000 a month, 1200 for a T1. Frac. T1 wasnt an option. So, paying even 1000 a month would be well worth it.

I just wish they could build their own server and send it to the hosting company, things could be so much faster here. =(

You approach the turnstiles and know that when
you get there you have to give the man two dollars
or he won't let you inside but when you get there
everything goes wrong.

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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: windex]
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Definately something we are looking into, I will leave all options open.

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thor@shroomery.org
http://www.shroomery.org

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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: Thor]
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Wooo Whoo!!! I'm glad to hear we made our goal.. As for nushroom he can fuck off.. I don't know you guys from jack on the street but I've made a donation and yeah the thought crossed my mind that, it would be a good scam but I don't feel like you could do that to your bud's at the shroomery. I know I couldn't.

As for alternatives:
I'm sure that if you could work out an arrangement with the hosting company about putting a server of yours on the backbone we could come through with something. I would volunteer my 6yrs unix/networking experience in helping get a server built. If you PM me where you guys are based out of I will help in researching additional options.

Edited by mrshrums on 10/01/01 07:53 PM.


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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: mrshrums]
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150 bucks more per month for RAM?  Wow!

Anyway, I know dsl is not going to allow enough transfer, so I say dsl+ as If I were going to have a site like this hosted on it I would definatley up it to something much better.  Cable is an option.  I say dsl as that is what I can afford by myself, but given a few bucks per month extra and I would set up something much nicer (faster, better).

Anyway, there would be many more qualified people to do something like that as I am still just a student.

Oh, and I know it is 1024, just a thinking error.  All the different ram sizes can be a bit hard to remember, but it is just 2X 512.

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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: Alone In The Fire]
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No offense but IMHO our local news station recieves advertising dollars that our nationwide PubliclyBroadcastingSpores network doesn't.
If this $$ is so badly needed, and I have no way of knowing that answer, then there SHOULD DEFINATELY be a sperate forum granting access to ALL of The Shroomery's financial records. And in the event that I can see that it is warranted, I would definately contribute to keeping this place open. I can't trust (or mistrust) someone because I like them. That kind of shit landed someone I know in prision.


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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: Thor]
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We're here to stay (me too).

Forever Never Stops


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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: them_26]
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We will be opening the books so to speak, more of a FYI of our bills, to whom, how much, etc.....

Right now there's some problems with our current host, we've been unable to access our online billing history for a while now and those bitches are not of much help getting it fixed.

One day I see the Shroomery actually making money, when that day comes I will either use that money for paying 3Dshroom or anyone who is running the site, or for things like T-shirts, promo stuff, etc.....

But yeah accountability is important, I agree with that.

But this isn't a public access channel, this is a privately owned website. People who donate understand that and obviously support us. I will share with you what I feel everyone should know, but I'm not going to have all the websites finances available for anyone to see....

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thor@shroomery.org
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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: un0r]
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From a honest perspective this coudl easly all be a scam. I mean i woudl die if the shroomery was shutdown but just looking at it from a nuetral side.



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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: Thor]
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Thor if that site is private, than it is private. But do not expect me or somebody else to whine about your problems.

afterall you are all good people sometimes
~Crobih

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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: Thor]
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Hey, Thor, those cats requested hooded sweatshirts, right? Well, my band is going to be producing hooded sweatshirts and t-shirts, and patches and all that soon.... well, after searching around, I found that
http://www.skatetheplanet.com
does a pretty good job... you should really consider making one with them! just a simple one ink color design hoodie even.. black with white text. The min. order is 24 I think, and I think it would be a very idea, or maybe even those patches they have at hardcore and punk shows that you pin on your backpack.. id get one of those. Something to consider.. because alot of people suggest things, and I never ever ever see any of them happening!!!!!
With love,
Phobos

Edited by Phobos on 10/02/01 01:32 PM.


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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: Thor]
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I would like a shroomery hoodie, that would be sweet.

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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: pishqualie]
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i'd buy a hoodie! long as it was big 'n comfy!!! the pouch on my tool one is start'n to rip off :(


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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: Thor]
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WHOO HOO!!! .....the shroomery is saved!!!!
thank god....& in 1 day!! thats un-friggen-believe-able!!
thank you thor, & the kind generous people who have saved the shroomery!!!
on a much sadder note....i lost my apartment...2 days ago, had to leave my poor little kitty cat....:(
if any1 wants to help me out...p/m me;) 


~fortyounces2freedom~ & ~disconnectedhaze~

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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: Thor]
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Phew! Thor, Im glad...I didnt want to have to scavage for cans to redeem again! - But I would, cause this place has helped me so many times...It's almost worth standing in line for 20 minutes between the old chinese lady that smells like cat and Hobo Jim. Almost

-OoD

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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: Anonymous]
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"then there SHOULD DEFINATELY be a sperate forum granting access to ALL of The Shroomery's financial records."

LOL! Yea, like the shroomery is publicly owned! * snort * LOL! They can request donations all they want and STILL have NO obligation to show any kind of records. That would be silly. To let people know to much of the behind the scenes action is bad as well. Having just recently found the shroomery
I am excited that I made it here just in time :) As for donations... I am not usually one to donate to causes where I just hand money over.... But for some trinket or a sweatshirt I would be glad to pay $40 or $50 bucks to help out and receive a momento! :) Guess it depends on the person. As for nushroom, after reading the vendor threads, specially one certain one, I was getting a bad image of him... NOW that I have read his little contributions to this thread...
Well, I am disgusted. Does he fork over any advertising money? If not, I would suggest that his ip and any other ips he uses be banned until he comes up with a public apology for being such a dick. It is just not kosher to come onto the board and waste the moderators/owners time by asking bullcrap questions and questioning any moves they make. I mean, of course with an apology and a promise to no longer bash the very board he is posting to he should be able to remain a member of this community. But this is NOT a public yahoo board. This board appears to be maintained at some levels of difficulty by just a few people, who seem to work very hard around here. Moderator bashing, or basically any figurative comparing them to Nazi's should be grounds for banishment.

There is an old saying and it goes:

" What is that you say? Are you complaining cause your free dinner's cold??? "

And the other half goes:

" Get the F*ck out of my kitchen if thats the case you ungrateful Son of a B*tch, and don't come back! "

Nothing personal nushroom, but, I am new to this, and even I can see what you are doing to make a few enemies around here,,,,, Apologize, and leave the moderators alone! It's that easy!!!

LOL! Thor, 3d, you have a great site, full of great people, stay sane!
:0P

NewbieShroomer aka ************** (my new non newbie name coming soon ;0)
Gotta get my first flush out tho first :0P



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Too many freaks, not enough circuses.
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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: NewbieShroomer]
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whats your IQ?

afterall you are all good people sometimes
~Crobih

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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: Crobih]
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LOL! My IQ.....

Somewhere around 13 I think, but I never let that hold me back!!! * grin *



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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: NewbieShroomer]
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You remind me on Thor

afterall you are all good people sometimes
~Crobih

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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: Crobih]
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""You remind me on Thor""

LOL! Crobih, I am not quite sure what you mean by that!
Unless you meant "of"!!! And I know, new as I am I prolly have little right to be posting my mind so freely... But I have been using Chat boards before most people have known of their existence, and I see what I see and I react on what I see. I think if anything, I am more like nushroom but when it comes to stabbing the hand that butters your bread... I am apt to say things I will more than likely regret later. Besides, what better way to make myself known to the community here than to stick my d*ck in the middle of the pie and see what happens!!? Thats me, Mikey, always ready to open my mouth and insert one of my feet! Irregardless of what you meant by the last two postings, nice to meet you Crobih, and I hope we have many pleasant chats in the future :)



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Too many freaks, not enough circuses.
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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: NewbieShroomer]
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<< I prolly have little right to be posting my mind so freely... >>

certainly not... :cool:



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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: NewbieShroomer]
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In response to:

Poster: NewbieShroomer
Subject: Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!!

""You remind me on Thor""

LOL! Crobih, I am not quite sure what you mean by that!
Unless you meant "of"!!! And I know, new as I am I prolly have little right to be posting my mind so freely... But I have been using Chat boards before most people have known of their existence, and I see what I see and I react on what I see. I think if anything, I am more like nushroom but when it comes to stabbing the hand that butters your bread... I am apt to say things I will more than likely regret later. Besides, what better way to make myself known to the community here than to stick my d*ck in the middle of the pie and see what happens!!? Thats me, Mikey, always ready to open my mouth and insert one of my feet! Irregardless of what you meant by the last two postings, nice to meet you Crobih, and I hope we have many pleasant chats in the future :)



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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: NewbieShroomer]
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LOL back at ya!
This wasn't a republician, democrat, or even libertarian contribution request. We all greatly appreciate this community and would do what is necessary to save it if, and when,  it is needed.
No one( not even nushroom) has said that "they" don't have the right to request donations.
But what I am saying, and Thor stated he agrees with, is that "in the spirit of the shroom" such a request(one stating that the demise of a community that many have contributed to will come about in "2" days)  should at least be followed up by transcripts warrenting the request.
If it is true then I, for one, wouldn't even need a t-shirt to show my support. And thats not to say that I need to see a dire need in order to.
I believe that everyone has a right and an obligation to express their thoughts/opinoins regardless if its their first post or #4985th. So I welcome any feedback you'd like to give and like EVERY shroomerite (I'd hope) can relate to your passion for a place such as this.
On the Nazi note:
I'm hoping you're being sarcastic when you say "any figurative comparing them to Nazis should be grounds for banishment." Banishment for freely expressing one's opinions/thoughts is Nazi-like in and of itself.
Awhile back nushroom got on someone who posted in the wrong threar with what I thought was little too much "gusto" (sue me if its a typo) but that never changed my opinion of him. Do your home work(like you really have time for that if you just discovered the Shroomery and are busy having tons of fun discovering the things it has to offer other than politics) and you will discover that nushroom has been a MAJOR contributer to this community, pays advertising dollars, and is well respected among many. Myself included.
Now that I've got nushroom's shit on my nose(can I get some free filter disks now :wink:), and you've got Thor's, maybe you can smell the fact that shit is shit and no matter whose ass it comes out of it still stinks.
Thererfor I'd rather have my head stuck up my own ass ('cause smelling another man's ass isn't my style- no offense to Ginsburg fans, the man was :cool: ahead of his time) and base my opinions on facts.
Fact is...
What?
What are the facts? What is the going rate for the service the shroomery recieves? And after the going rate, how much compensation should be given to those responsible for it's upkeep? All in the spirit of the shroom.

Thor,
To  the first sentence of your reply to my response I say
":cool: ". But when I reach the end a new question is sparked into my mind:
What kind expenses necessary to The Shroomery's operation are so dangerous that you feel they would need to left out in order to secure the safety of the site? It's not an Al Capone financial record.
I don't mean to come across as unappreciative of the work you and 3D have done. I'm just wondering why there seems to be a contradiction to your first statement(maybe its the beer I've been drinking- if so enlighten me, please).


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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: them_26]
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Let me ask you this, a private website asks for donations, people donate, this is a common occurance on the web.... I've seen this on many occasions on sites that have donation drives.... None of them post their financial records, why should we be any different?

This is a private site, I'm not hiding anything, I just feel personal finances are really nobodies business but the owner of the site. I haven't had one person ask me to divuldge financial info out of those who donated, yet a few people keep asking.

There is nothing to hide, in fact I've told others recently in a thread in off topic the rough expenses of the shroomery... We pay monthly approx $550 for hosting, we paid about $500 when we moved over, also paid around $300 in registering domain names... Plus some other charges like set up fees for the extra ram, added features we put on the server.... Even paying for an extra month of hosting from our old server which we had to pay since there was a contract.

Needless to say, this place isn't cheap, and the Ads are pretty close now to paying the fees, thanks to some extra support of the vendor community after this crisis.

But the problem wasn't really the monthly, I was only paying say 1/4 of the hosting out of my own pocket, but it was the set up fees, registrations, etc... that added up, and I calculated roughly 1000 would cover all those expenses.

Again, if you want the exact records I won't be posting them publicly. This is a private site, and I don't think anyone has a right to view the private finances of the site. If people donate its because they care, if they feel me not disclosing the financial statements is wrong, that is their right...

Nothing is being hidden, I know nushroom is convinced of that, but he has other motives for bashing me....

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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: Thor]
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Why should we be any different?...
...because you said in two days a site many have contributed to will become extinct.
if thats the case then why did you say:
"we will be opening the books so to speak, more of a FYI of our bills, to whom,how much, etc. ...
right now... ...we've been unable to access our online billing history(etc.)
But yeah accountability is important,Iagree with that.
I will share with you what I feel everyone should know(does that equate to saying we pay this much for that service and you need to just trust us on it?)
Come on bro,
I believe you and 3M deserve to be compensated for your trouble(even if you 2 don't) but Aphex(who was that masked man?) handed it over to you in complete trust. Even if you only get $250/month from ad $s, then you'd only need $750 to save it if it costs $1000 a month to run(and thats if the shroomery didn't recieve ANY donations for the entire month.-which I know it has, because some people who usually remain quiet on the sidelines do give without having to recieve a t-shirt or hoodie)
In the spirit of the shroom actual transcripts should be made available. Since it costs what you say it costs then whats the harm in broadcasting a bill that says the same thing you're saying?Or has the mushroom become only a recreational drug here instead of the gateway that it is? The same two disembodied eyes that Hawk shows hovering in space?
Nushroom may have reasons. I wouldn't know. But agian I don't see the harm in making it public.
Here in Wash D.C. theres a radio station(wpfw) that is the only independant radio(jazz,blues, and funk at least) in the area. They run off of donations. Look it up and I'll bet you'll find that their expenses are made available to the public.


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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: them_26]
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Thor. It is definite that you have a reason to HIDE finnancial facts about the site.
What are your reasons? Prosperity of your pocket or what?
I mean if you did not have a reason to hide those facts, you would not be hiding them.
Agree?
Tohr you are reminding me OF ralph. and that is not good thing.

afterall you are all good people sometimes
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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: Crobih]
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Won't you people ever get my name right? It's 3D

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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: 3DSHROOM]
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you should socialize a little bit more...3d

afterall you are all good people sometimes
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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: them_26]
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We don't [run] off donations, we run off advertising and up until now my own pocket. The donation drive was done because the bills were getting high and I needed to bring them all down, mr Visa wasn't happy.

In reply to:

and thats if the shroomery didn't recieve ANY donations for the entire month.-which I know it has


How do you know this? Absolutely untrue, until I brought up the seriousness of the need for donations, we went a long time since our last donations. Believe me dontations up until this last week had been pretty tiny.

People don't really donate unless we express a need, if we don't mention anything people don't donate. Those people who do in normal times, are extraordinary.
In reply to:

Even if you only get $250/month from ad $s, then you'd only need $750 to save it if it costs $1000 a month to run


This $1000 wasn't for this month only ... Its an acumulated debt that had been building for 5 months.
In reply to:

In the spirit of the shroom actual transcripts should be made available.


The spirit of the shroom is about understanding, love, a perception not shared by those who don't enjoy the magic mushroom. I don't see how you can say this is in the spirit of anything other than curiostiy or mis-trust of me.
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But agian I don't see the harm in making it public


He didn't just make it public (i have no problem with that), he called me a liar, a thief, and quoted prices that he knew nothing about, he guestemated everything in order to discredit and try to stop people from dontating. You think that is cool?
In reply to:

Here in Wash D.C. theres a radio station(wpfw) that is the only independant radio(jazz,blues, and funk at least) in the area. They run off of donations. Look it up and I'll bet you'll find that their expenses are made available to the public.


Again, we are not public, we are private. We do not run off donations, in fact if we did, we would have surived maybe the first month after me and 3D took over. Up until recently donations made up a tiny % of revenue for this place.

If and when we make any money off this site, we will use that money to work on buying our own server..

I've disclosed quite a bit here, you know our monthly costs, our AD revenue is a little tricky right now since there are going to be some changes very soon and I can't be sure of exactly what the future holds in that regard.

But I will say this, after these $$ problems, our vendors have stepped up to help us out, and I honestly am very confident that now we will have enough monthly to pay our bills and hopefully start saving up for our own server.

I've answered all your questions, and I can't imagine you need more unless you think there is something shady going on. I know some think that, but those I can count on my right hand.

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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: Alone In The Fire]
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LOL!!! * rotflmao! * I sound like a queer? Literally!?
Check it out fruitcake.... I don't piss with people who
are as uncreative as yourself... I think the streetlights are on, you better head home and make sure your nightlite is plugged in and your favorite old charlie brown security blanket is safe in that place you keep it hidden for safety!

LOL! Now see, thats creative... Please don't bother me
again unless you have something worthwhile to say. And if ya do, don't worry! I'll just ignore you! Have a great day!!!

Mikey

"Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music."


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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: them_26]
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Wow. Dude that was quite an impressive tirade!!!
* applause * I will break down and answer your total letter pretty soon, unfortunatly I see myself posting something equally long winded and don't have the half hour I would need to respond, but... thanks!!! * grin * It's always nice to see people paying attention.

Just a quicky... I have NOTHING against nushroom. He was one of the first people to talk to me when I started posting here... But what it all boils down to is if you don't like the way things are run on another guys board... Then either
keep it to yourself and your buddies, or leave! No reason to make public some of the stuff I have seen posted. Most moderators working in the online biz who are fairly experienced nip that stuff in the bud. And pull it. It's their right, their site and their perogotive. If anything the moderators here are FAR more lenient than they might be.

Anyway, it was a pleasure, but duty calls here at my porn shop so I gotta go!
Take care!

Mikey

:0P

"Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music."


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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: NewbieShroomer]
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?? newbieshroomer sounds like a newBORN

:frown: .. what was i saying..? Time for a cigarette.


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Re: Shroomery Donations - We reached our goal!!! [Re: 40oz]
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Ya know what.. this is some rediculous shit. Thor and 3D work their asses off,, their own time to make the shroomery stay alive. They make 0% profit.
And so why, just because they are bored and have no life and want to talk to some of these punk ass little kids and bitches that visit this board? Yah, that it, they just love the stress some of these members here cause them. I dont think so.
Some of you ppl just love to stir shit up and cause all of us stress. Why can you just be peaceful.
We dont need this.


There is a much bigger picture here involved that some of you ppl have not even figured out yet. Spreading the knowledge of these mushrooms come first. The Shroomery is vast vault of knowledge and a gathering of minds that we all indulge in. If it wasn't, you would not be reading this right now. You learn right here. And at what cost. Nothing to most of you.  90% of you its free. Yes some of you just come here and bitch when they ask for a little money to pay the bills. You question there every move... what gives with that... what do you want a monthly statement for all the free informaion you read?


You know what people .. .. this place does not run itself. There are ppl here such as 3dshroom and Thor that work there asses off here,,,,to make this place stay alive so you can read this and all the other great info here. Oh ...and get this......they have lives. Yep... no bullshit.. just like me and you... they to have lives.
They have girlfriends..... they have friends, ....they have families. They are people just like me and you.  And they are damn good people.

And for them to give up their time and knowledge of what it takes to run to the most powerful tool on the net for mushroom cultivation.....THE SHROOMERY....you all need to give them respect and your support.

Ok... back to what makes this place run. It takes a lot of time and TLC by a couple of ppl that care about the futrure of these mushrooms. That is immediate. It dont matter how much money I dontate or other vendors pay their small donations.... without these ppl, 3Dshrooms and Thor, this place is not alive. Their is time and energy... lots of it here for you to read this NOW, and forever.

So I ask you....stop your bitching about them asking for donations. These donations are needed
I've had many talks with these guys, they make 0% prophit. Which really sucks!!! that means no xtra money for their hard work. In fact Thor is paying out of his own pocket just to keep in nuetral.
What wrong with this picture folks?

Ok..one real question can you afford say just and xtra $10 a month? YES... most of you can. Even a $20 spot that month your using the shroomery will help. Those of you that can not, its ok if your broke, that is ok to... but dont bitch about money for the free service to you...save all of the stress and time.  Dont bitch. but when your day comes rember the knowledge you learned here and come back for more.

We are all here toghether.... we all share something in common. These mushrooms from our creator have brought us here together.

Please... post your donations here using paypal.com ......      thor@shroomery.com  help keep these guys motivated. Help keep the shroomery and the spread of psilocybin musrhooms information alive :smile:



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