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Who/what does the disassociated observer observe? Some DXM-induced ponderings...
    #3882455 - 03/07/05 02:37 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

When in the disassociated state, your perceptions and experiences of the world are not as conscious as otherwise. That is, things are perceived and experienced, and your consciousness simply sits and observes this process. The original experience itself is pure, unadulterated and unbiased by the conscious mind's distortion. What you perceive is greeted with a completely open mind, free from bias or preconception.

Your consciousness finally gives way for your subconscious to do the work. A contemporary illness among humanity is that every minute of every day is coated with a thin film of consciousness that actually slows down the cognitive process. If you had to consciously beat your heart, fill your lungs with air, move the oxygen through your blood stream, and manually feed every cell in your body, well this obviously is an impossibility. Consciousness was not meant for such things.

Society, however, would have you believe that conscious thought is meant for more than, perhaps, it is. Indeed, it seeks to distract your conscious thought with trivialities so that messages of consumerism and compliance can be more effectively conveyed to your subconscious. Because conscious thought, ultimately, is a filter, a reducing valve, and the effect of many drugs, including DXM, is to allow for a greater amount of input to flow through or altogether past it.

The question ultimately is, when you surrender your functioning to the subconscious controller, are you surrendering to yourself, or to something greater than yourself? Does your sense of individuality lie solely in the observer, and the observed is simply a vessel, a conductor for universal consciousness that is infinitely wiser than your own consciousness? And accordingly, to impose your limited individual will, your conscious mind, on the observed is to limit the potential of this universal consciousness within you?

Egocentric people cling to the notion that they are the ones in control, that nothing is surrendered to a foreign entity. As such they painstakingly pervert all aspects of reality to fit through their conscious mind's filter, to fit into their rigid and arbitrary tunnel realities that collectively form their equally rigid and arbitrary world model. The misconception is that the supposedly foreign entity, the universal consciousness (the Ineffable, etc.) to which they surrender their will is not truly foreign, for we are all a part of it.

If the universal divine will is tantamount to perfection then why would you want to deviate from it? If, for example, God's will and your will are one and the same, then perhaps your will isn't free, but why seek freedom from perfection? The question resurfaces: is this supposed perfection belonging to something universal, or something individual and personal? To become your own God, how do you know when to control all your actions and when to surrender control? Or is it a matter of surrendering control to yourself, that is, allowing your subconscious to act?

I believe we always have the choice to resist or surrender, and the correct path is to consciously surrender, to consciously transcend one's conscious self. A form of active passivity. When you consciously surrender control to your subconscious, then you suddenly know the answer to whatever problem is on your mind, to the extent that you surrender the thought process in which it is involved. The knowledge suddenly comes to you, wisdom suddenly comes to you. You suddenly understand the workings of things, for you grasp the fundamental concepts present in all of life's fractal tangents.

Do you surrender to yourself, or to something greater? I'm inclined to believe you surrender to something greater, of which you and everyone else are a part.


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Re: Who/what does the disassociated observer observe? Some DXM-induced ponderings... [Re: the_phoenix]
    #3882621 - 03/07/05 03:09 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

depends on what you call self.

your greater self is that self that makes all the preparations and saves all the information.
your little self is the part that experiences the movie.


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Re: Who/what does the disassociated observer observe? Some DXM-induced ponderings... [Re: redgreenvines]
    #3882715 - 03/07/05 03:33 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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redgreenvines said:
depends on what you call self.

your greater self is that self that makes all the preparations and saves all the information.
your little self is the part that experiences the movie.


I divide it into three: little self as ego which experiences, greater self as great observer who knows, and subconscious....as distance between the two, out of which understanding arises?


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Re: Who/what does the disassociated observer observe? Some DXM-induced ponderings... [Re: the_phoenix]
    #3883050 - 03/07/05 04:48 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

When we think the word 'self', dont we automaticly turn our attention to the center of our bodies? What about the heart? that is the true self, the heart of the human being, not some abstract term, nor the actual bodily organ, but that warm, soft spot in our being, that is who we really are, thats where we need to be, that where true understanding lives.  :heart:


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