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OfflineKeepAskingTime
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Meditation...Lucid Dreaming....etc.
    #367442 - 08/06/01 12:34 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Fellow shroomerites..those of you that are skilled in the arts of lucid dreaming........meditating........those types of mental expansion, etc. even fasting.....What materials are very useful to learn? Websites? Books? .........?
Thanks a lot!



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Re: Meditation...Lucid Dreaming....etc. [Re: KeepAskingTime]
    #367528 - 08/06/01 05:23 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I've had a few lucid dreams in my life. I don't know how I did it... it just happened. I was really drunk the last time it happened.

Why, oh, why didn't I take the BLUE pill?


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Re: Meditation...Lucid Dreaming....etc. [Re: KeepAskingTime]
    #367554 - 08/06/01 07:22 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

go get "flower of life" book 1 & 2 from Drunvalo Melchizedek... and then buy a CD called Mer-ka-ba meditation... also by Drunvalo Melchizedek... and your set and done... i think its the best meditation i?ve ever tried...

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Re: Meditation...Lucid Dreaming....etc. [Re: KeepAskingTime]
    #367577 - 08/06/01 08:58 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Well, it depends what you're looking for as to what will be the most helpful. You haven't specified very much in your post, and the areas you mentioned are so huge and varied that it is difficult to give any specific advice.
I would recommend just jumping on the web and using a search engine to seeing what you can find. I'm sure you'll find loads of interesting things, as there are thousands of good web sites out there, and by following up the things you find interesting, and ignoring the thing you dont, you'll quickly begin to find some direction.

Take care

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Re: Meditation...Lucid Dreaming....etc. [Re: Phyl]
    #367634 - 08/06/01 12:27 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Lozt Soul: Thanks! I have heard that last name before....I think while reading Rule By Secrecy by Jim Marrs, a conspiracy book....anyway I'll satisfy my curiousity and look into that.
Phyl: Well, in general...I was just asking for what helped out the people who know how to [.....] and what worked best. Thanks.



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Re: Meditation...Lucid Dreaming....etc. [Re: KeepAskingTime]
    #367671 - 08/06/01 01:43 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I was taught to meditate by a really cool teacher actually. He was of Zen leanings. Basically, sit comfortably, and clear your mind (use breathing techniques, mantras, whatever works for you). thought pops up, just make a note to yourself ('thinking') and continue immersing yourself in the flow.

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Re: Meditation...Lucid Dreaming....etc. [Re: ]
    #367693 - 08/06/01 02:56 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

This is the best lucid dreaming site I've found
http://www.xs4all.nl/~pasquale/TTM/1/index.html
It has the best forum on lucid dreaming too. So any questions can be answered daily, but it's common courtesy to read back a couple of pages on the forum because about every question has been asked repeatedly. A good book on lucid dreams is Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming. You can get it at http://www.lucidity.com but I got mine at Barnes & Nobles.

"ignorance is bliss to those uneducated"-311

Edited by lucid_dreamer on 08/06/01 01:59 PM.



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Re: Meditation...Lucid Dreaming....etc. [Re: KeepAskingTime]
    #368986 - 08/08/01 09:26 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Castaneda?

covers a lot more than lucid dreaming, but in each book there are loads of different meditation techniques, great reading anyway.



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Re: Meditation...Lucid Dreaming....etc. [Re: KeepAskingTime]
    #369046 - 08/08/01 11:23 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

what is a lucid dream? i have crazy dreams every time i have one. they all feel like it is real life also, and when i wake up i am really glad it was just a dream. it is so real, that i sometimes think that i am dreaming when really i am awake!



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Re: Meditation...Lucid Dreaming....etc. [Re: KeepAskingTime]
    #369933 - 08/10/01 09:38 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

You might want to look into:

Rick Strassman, M.D., DMT The Spirit Molecule, 2001
ISBN 0-89281-927-8

Mystical States Pg. 234-235

In order to establish the close similarities between spiritual experience and what is possible with the spirit molecule, I will first review briefly the features of a mystical experience.

The three pillars of self, time, and space all undergo profound transfiguration in a mystical experience.

There no longer is any separation between the self and what is not the self. Personal identity and all of existence become one and the same. In fact, there is no "personal" identity because we understand at the most basic level the underlying unity and interdependence of all existence. Past, present, and future merge together into a timeless moment, the now of eternity. Time stops, inasmuch as it no longer "passes." There is existence, but it is not dependent upon time. Now and then, before and after, all combine into this exact point. On the relative level, short periods of time encompass enormous amounts of experience.

As our self and time lose their boundaries, space becomes vast. Like time, space is no longer here or there but everywhere, limitless, without edges. Here and there are the same. It is all here.

In this infinitely vast time and space with no limited self, we hold up to examination all contradictions and paradoxes and see they no longer conflict. We can hold, absorb, and accept everything our mind conjures up: good and evil, suffering and happiness, small and large. We now are certain that consciousness continues after the body dies, and that it existed long before this particular physical form. We see the entire universe in a blade of grass and know what our face was like before our parents met.

Extraordinarily powerful feelings surge through our consciousness. We are ecstatic, and the intensity of this joy is such that our body cannot contain it - it seems to need a temporarily disembodied state. While the bliss is pervasive, there's also an underlying peace and equanimity that's not affected by even this incredibly profound happiness.

There is a searing sense of the sacred and the holy. We contact an unchanging, unborn, undying, and uncreated reality. It is a personal encounter with the "Big Bang," God, Cosmic Consciousness, the source of all being. Whatever we call it, we know we have met the fundamental bedrock and fountainhead of existence, one that emanates love, wisdom, and power on an unimaginable scale.
We call it "enlightenment" because we encounter the white light of creation's majesty. We may meet guides, angels, or other disembodied spirits, but we pass them all as we merge with the light. Our eyes now, finally, are truly open, and we see things clearly in a "new light."

The import and momentousness of the experience stands alone in our history. It may serve to focus the rest of our life toward the completion, filling out, and working through of the insights obtained.

Jack Kornfeld and Paul Breiter, ?A Still Forest Pool, The
Insight Medication of Achaan Chah?
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0835605973/qid=969425603/sr=1-30/102-1916889-7298514 ISBN 0-8356-0597-3


Jack Kornfeld, Living Dharma, ?Teachings of the Twelve Buddhist Master? http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1570621381/qid=969425603/sr=1-11/102-1916889-7298514 ISBN1-57062-138-1


Robert A.F. Thurman, ?The Tibetan Book Of The Dead, Liberation Through Understanding In The Between?
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0835605973/qid=969425603/sr=1-30/102-1916889-7298514 ISBN 0-553-37090-1

James H. Austin, M.D., ?Zen and the Brain : Toward an
Understanding of Meditation and Consciousness?
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0262511096/o/qid=989000922/sr=8-1/ref=aps_sr_b_1_1/104-3758825-1815932 ISBN 0-262-01164-6

Meher Baba, ?Discourses? http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1880619091/o/qid=974133084/sr=8-3/ref=aps_sr_b_1_3/002-2951418-3406430 ISBN 1-88061-909-1





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