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Offlinehulk_blood
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Lucid Dreaming !
    #2027027 - 10/20/03 11:27 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

  Is there anyone else on the shroomery that is into lucid dreaming?  A great alternative to halllucinogen use!  If you have not had a lucid dream yet, then you are missing a big experience in your life that you can make happen every night! :thumbup:  When I woke up from my first lucid dream I felt like a god!!  anyone else? 


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Re: Lucid Dreaming ! [Re: hulk_blood]
    #2027187 - 10/21/03 12:34 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I'm "into" lucid dreaming. Been doing it for many lifetimes.

What do you do in your lucid state?
I tend to fly around.
Sometimes I go on "missions", where I have to infiltrate malevolent groups and spy on them, sometimes have to neutralize them. Since my psychic abilities are quite natural in that state, it is rather educational. I can become invisible, walk on ceilings..through walls.. read thoughts..neutralize malignance simply through thought alone.. I can travel freely and at will. I am a spiritual warrior in the lucid state, battling with self serving entities, meeting with benevolent ancient beings, and having vivid experiences throughout. Definitely a good time.

Flying is the most liberating feeling ever.



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Re: Lucid Dreaming ! [Re: Shroomism]
    #2027229 - 10/21/03 12:49 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Shroomism, how long have you been doing this for? ( in this lifetime)
Since you are so experienced, is there ever a dream you have that isnt lucid? Or do they instantly become lucid because of habituation?

Also, have you mastered the 360 degree vision yet? :grin:


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Re: Lucid Dreaming ! [Re: manna_man]
    #2027296 - 10/21/03 01:11 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I have been having lucid dreams as long as I can remember..since a child. Though they have evolved over the years..and there was a period of time where I had none whatsoever.

I have regular dreams more often than not. I have determined there are essentially two kinds of lucid dreams...the ones you cause yourself through will, and the ones you just 'wake up' in. There is certainly no habit involved.. they just seem to happen when they are needed. I have more 'waking up' lucid, than the other. Perhaps that's due to it feeling so natural, so I just ignore or forget willing myself into lucidity..I am not sure.

360 degree vision.. I would assume you are speaking of seeing all around you as if objectively..yes I have some elements of that. Vision comes in many forms while lucid...sometimes I have like "7 eyes"..where I can see in every direction at once..sometimes I am watching from a distance as if outside my energy body...it varies.

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Re: Lucid Dreaming ! [Re: Shroomism]
    #2027367 - 10/21/03 01:34 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Lucid dreaming is the schiznizil-bang-snip-snap-shiznat!!!!!

Sometimes, I go to sleep, and I wake up, in my mind.  There is black empty space all around me.  I can create a world from scratch, or I can re-visit worlds I have already created or those that have been revealed to me by the unseen hand of my subconscious. 

In these realms, I am the master of all that is, although sometimes i like to play a more submissive role, and just experience it.  Sometimes I enjoy being taken for a ride. 

Sometimes my subconscious tries to trick me while i am dreaming.  I get those humdrum dreams where everything is normal and i dont even suspect that i am dreaming.  But my subconscious always fucks something up, some minor detail that i catch and realize that i am dreaming.  At this point i have the option of exerting control over the dream or letting it continue.  Some non-lucid dreams are important messages that shouldnt be ignored.

I love dreaming so much I am addicted to it.  I am a sleepaholic. 

I always viewd reality as a recurring bad dream.  Well, not really bad, just pointless :nut:


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Re: Lucid Dreaming ! [Re: Shroomism]
    #2027382 - 10/21/03 01:43 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Right, there are no rules! I thought of this possibility:
When you dream, you take references from your sight. In wakefulness, you can only see what your eyes are able to see, because of limited peripheral vision, and basically there is an area of view from which we are able to see.Think of a vertical straight line; how long is it? Most likely it is only as long as our regular sight would permit. We think in much the same way as sight, as we are so used to seeing with these constraints. Would it then be possible to think with an unlimited vision, making the vertical line virtually endless? Think of how much our imaginations would expand without these sort of "mental boudaries".


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Offlineplexus
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Re: Lucid Dreaming ! [Re: manna_man]
    #2027714 - 10/21/03 03:59 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

i think that most of the people in this forum whould be somewhat "into" lucid dreams... i like to fly too


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Re: Lucid Dreaming ! [Re: plexus]
    #2027811 - 10/21/03 05:04 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

yeah, lucid dreams are the stuff..

heres a random entry from a lucid dream log i created some time ago. the spelling and general gramma might be a bit off as i entered it in shortly after i awoke and haven't changed it since.

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became lucid in them middle of some type of conflict.. there was a weird character trying to chase me/make me scared/attack me .. he/it shot spheres at me that seemed to glow and they were orbiting one another.. they were kind of intimidating but i decided if i was going to stand up to it, now was the time..

as they came for me i grabbed them out of the air held them briefly and dropped them to the ground.. they felt warm to touch.. this seemed to agrivate the weird 'magician' type entity and it tried something more powerful and the made the spheres hover off the ground at eye level and they began orbiting each other really fast

i started to hear a ripping sound and the 'reality' started ripping open slightly and i could see through some holes at the edges of the orbiting spheres that appeared to be different colors or something i dont know exactly.. this was kind of suprising to me but i still wasnt afraid, but since i didnt know exactly what was going on or what type of power would be unleashed.. i stepped back a bit and feigned being scared a little bit since he was really trying his hardest to contain me.. after he had seen this, the spheres began to slow down orbiting and gradually disappeaed along with the weird charchter..

confused at what had happened i turned around and a female in a black overcoat and black eyes walked passed smirking at me.. i wake up


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Offlinebigfatdork
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Re: Lucid Dreaming ! [Re: deep_umbra]
    #2027816 - 10/21/03 05:10 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Best sex I ever had!!
Why cheat in real life, the girls are ten times better when I make them up...


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Re: Lucid Dreaming ! [Re: bigfatdork]
    #2027934 - 10/21/03 07:04 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

God damn, Shroomsim, you only increase my thirst for getting conscious when I leave this body... which is a good thing, it gives me something to fight for. :grin:

I think that I am progressively becoming more aware of the fact that I am dreaming. I have had a couple of dreams recently where I ?somewhat? become conscious of the fact that I am dreaming, but I really only still go on with what is going on in those dreams (which are really fucking crazy, epic dreams! holy shit!) I mean, I have never become fully aware of the fact that I am dreaming and then carry out dreams as if they were this reality, but I can't fucking wait until I do...

In one dream, I basically became this hero like Superman. Some force had basically taken over the country, and like all these people were confined to living in these like stadium bleachers, and there were people patrolling.. I ended up starting up a force to try to overide them, and we ended up having some sucess the first time (I can't remember what we did, but I think we like took out some of the guards). Then, when I came back, the part of the bleachers where like my family stayed was emtpy, they had eliminated them...

I basically assumed all sorts of spectacular powers that no one could challenge. I sort of knew that I could just use them, and that if I doubted myself, I wouldn't be able to..

After awhile, I was starting to get sick of it (I really don't know why), so I made a decision to assume the perspective of another person who was walking by, and I became that person and watched my guy fly away...

Anyways, yeah. I can't wait until I truly go lucid. There is something about having powers like Superman that really appeals to me... and if I can bag some chick like Louis Lane (god, she is hot! too bad she finally got married to Superman yesterday!), all the better. :grin:
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Re: Lucid Dreaming ! [Re: hulk_blood]
    #2027956 - 10/21/03 07:29 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I've been trying for awhile and never had success untill last night actually. I took a little xanax last night because I jost got it prescribed. And I woke up realizing in my last dream I knew I was dreaming. Then I woke up a few more times during the night each after a dream I knew I was in and controlling what I did, amazing. I tried to fly, but ended up jumping really high then lanidng in some water and swimming around. I tried to get certain people to appear but it wouldn't happen and many of the dreams were very short lived.


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Re: Lucid Dreaming ! [Re: barfightlard]
    #2027990 - 10/21/03 08:35 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I frequently have lucid dreams, but I don't have much control
over the dream itself, strange. I know I'm dreaming, but still
there's things that I just can't do or change. Sometimes I'll
get frustrated in my dream and tell myself "I know I'm dreaming,
it's my dream, I should be able to change this", but I still
can't control it.
Control issues... :smirk:


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Re: Lucid Dreaming ! [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2028004 - 10/21/03 08:56 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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Sometimes, I go to sleep, and I wake up, in my mind. There is black empty space all around me. I can create a world from scratch, or I can re-visit worlds I have already created or those that have been revealed to me by the unseen hand of my subconscious.




I know exactly what you're talking about- I've had those as well. You feel as if you are suspended in an infinite space.The blackness is startling because it is not natural blackness, but astral blackness- totally black. In physical reality, when you close your eyes in a dark room, no matter how dark and how hard/long you close your eyes, you will always have little luminescences, but astral black is PURE black, devoid of ANY light. Some may even find the darkness frightening; I found it to be incredibly liberating.

It is the empty canvas of creation and you can project on it what you WILL. It's like waking up in a movie theater just before the curtains rise; You can accept the default movie or better yet, make up your own movie on the fly and play any and all parts that you wish!



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Re: Lucid Dreaming ! [Re: Jellric]
    #2028114 - 10/21/03 10:18 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Ever since I've been taking melatonin to help me sleep, my dreams have become much more vivid and I actually remember them now. Things are just starting to get interesting! :grin:


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Re: Lucid Dreaming ! [Re: adrug]
    #2028119 - 10/21/03 10:21 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

adrug said:
Ever since I've been taking melatonin to help me sleep, my dreams have become much more vivid and I actually remember them now. Things are just starting to get interesting! :grin: 



5-HTP has similar effects, sometimes a bit too real tho :oogle: 


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Re: Lucid Dreaming ! [Re: hulk_blood]
    #2029008 - 10/21/03 04:14 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I've had some pretty cool lucid moments in dreams.  Some of them I think were actually almost-lucid, and instead I only dreamed that I realized I was dreaming.  For example, the time I realized I was dreaming while hopping from pole top to pole top with some girl.  So I thought, "Oh, cool, I should conjure something."  So I reached behind my back and sure enough, I was able to pull my hand back holding an apple.  Looking back, I must not have been fully aware, or I would have had sex with that girl.  :smirk:  Or at least started to fly. 


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Re: Lucid Dreaming ! [Re: hongomon]
    #2029328 - 10/21/03 05:58 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I regularly have lucid dreams, but this week I had a new occurence in dreams: I saw visuals I'd usually only see when tripping. Weird, but cool as hell.

EDIT: Sometimes when dreaming, I wake up inside the dream, into another dream, only to wake up again. This sometimes continues through five different 'reality' dreams. At other times, I'll dream about what happens in the first ten minutes after I'll be awake, and it happens exactly like I dreamt (and I'm talking exact timeframes, other people's actions, etc).


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Re: Lucid Dreaming ! [Re: Alan Stone]
    #2031757 - 10/22/03 10:05 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Ive only had one lucid dream that i can remember and i loved it. I remember how weird it felt to be "concious" inside a dream, The ability to be 100% aware that you are dreaming and creating the world around you is great. Now i just wish i could master it.


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Re: Lucid Dreaming ! [Re: Spokesman]
    #2033231 - 10/22/03 06:48 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

is there a key anywhere to having lucid dreams when you want them?


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Re: Lucid Dreaming ! [Re: Toad_Stool]
    #2034110 - 10/22/03 11:06 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Yes, it's called the Lucid Dreaming Key, and it's available at Wal-Mart for $12.99.

I have had a handfull of lucid dreams, and I have made the same mistake in most of them so far. Usually I become way too excited upon acquiring lucidity, and this causes my dream to end soon after I become lucid.

I have some advice for those of you experiencing this problem... instead of trying to take off and fly or go blasting off on some crusade against evil dream spirits, try to just relax and allow the dream to happen, rather than trying to force something to happen. You may feel like you have 100% control right off the bat, but that control is only an illusion until you slow yourself down enough to actually GAIN control.

It's tough, but try to stay calm and experience what comes to you instead of forcing things to happen. You may be surprised what kind of people/things appear.


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Re: Lucid Dreaming ! [Re: Amnesiac]
    #2034262 - 10/23/03 12:00 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

what id like to know, and what i think what toadstool was meant was:

how do you realize you're dreaming and as a result have a lucid dream? is it just something that happens? or is it a result of increased awareness of oneself? is there anything that can increase the possibility of lucid dreams?

as far as i can remember ive only really had one lucid dream, and it was only semi-lucid. throughout it i would occassionally remember that it was only a dream, but generally i wasnt aware. at one point in this dream i found i had the ability to fly, halfway through i realized i was within a dream and continued to fly over what in the dream i knew as my high school, but when i really thought about it it was a completely different place.

after seeing waking life ive been very interested in having lucid dreams, however until recently ive been distracted by other things and havent been able to read much about it. does anyone have anything i can read on the topic? or does anyone have explanation/description of lucid dreaming and how to achieve such a state?


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Re: Lucid Dreaming ! [Re: ]
    #2034279 - 10/23/03 12:05 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

"is there anything that can increase the possibility of lucid dreams?"

keep a dream journal. And if you've seen waking life, you should know that looking at a digital clock, reading fine text, or changing the light in a room can trigger lucidity. That stuff actually works.


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Re: Lucid Dreaming ! [Re: manna_man]
    #2034365 - 10/23/03 12:29 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

yeah, my trouble is that i dont think of these things while dreaming. a dream journal would be kinda cool actually, people have mentioned it before, but now it strikes me as something id really like to read later on. shrug, thanks for the help


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Re: Lucid Dreaming ! [Re: ]
    #2034380 - 10/23/03 12:32 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Hey guys first post in here. This topic caught my eye. For the past 2 years I have been on the road to Lucid Dreaming.Only acheving once. I now am trying harder to LDream. Dream Journals, Lucid Dreaming goggles,practice. thats all there is to it.


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Re: Lucid Dreaming ! [Re: ]
    #2034442 - 10/23/03 12:51 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I ve had quite a few lucid dreams so far and i remember the first one real well, it was the most vivid one of them all. there are several levels of lucidity and when you achieve a high one it is really something amazing. I think lucid dreaming should be further researched and studied to the point that it could be used in our culture and society as tool to further understand ourselves and the nature of our universe.In a limitless plane of existance imagine all the infinate possibilities. the only limitation would be your imagination.


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Re: Lucid Dreaming ! [Re: hulk_blood]
    #2034605 - 10/23/03 01:45 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Well lucid dreams can be the most amazing experiences in my life and at the same time they can be somewhat of a burden. I don't know if any one else has experienced this but every night I have intense, vivid dreams, I wake so tired as though I have actually been awake acting these events out in real life. I guess that's why I have befriended the opiates throughout my life, they truly open up scenary in my mind that no other substance can even begin to display. On acid I've had some extremely wild, vivid dreams too but that's only after the comedown and I'm well worn out. On opiates I'm still quite euphoric when I enter into dreamland so they have become a more effective tool for reaching those great distances inside one's mind. The outer limits of our mind are never truly limited at all but can be very scary if you do not tread lightly. I've had some extremely terrifying dreams that I might have encouraged somehow. Overall, my most enjoyable times have come from dream sleep.  How odd? Why have we been given this tool with no complete understanding of it's main purpose? I deeply believe that there is a very important purpose for these slumber thoughts. Amazing as they are, will we ever grasp their true meanings? :rolleyes: 


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Re: Lucid Dreaming ! [Re: ]
    #2034721 - 10/23/03 02:23 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

DUDES I AM THE MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE in my DREAMS !!! When i realize i'm in a dream I HAVE TOTAL CONTROL OVER E V E R Y T H I N G ....bad guys come and attack me fighting and shooting and i DODGE BULLETS EXACTLY LIKE IN "THE MATRIX" MOVIE with the slow motion and moving through water like effects...IT'S SO MUCH FUN! I fly everywhere...I even know HOW TO FLY i move my hands around and i can CONTROL THE DIRECTION I FLY. After i get tired of that stuff i LOOK FOR THE HOTTEST LOOKING GIRL , then right then in there even in PUBLIC i take here panties down and BONE HER ! it kicks ass cuz i know i'm in a dream and theres NO CONSEQUENCES it's so cool ....dreams KICK ASS!!!


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Re: Lucid Dreaming ! [Re: ]
    #2034933 - 10/23/03 03:25 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

The golden question. For me, any time I've actually thought while in a dream to ask, "Is this a dream?" the answer was obvious. So there was no need for me to do any sort of check, like looking at printed text or flipping a light switch. That's the whole trick, thinking to ask.

I did have my highest concentration of lucid dream moments when I was most interested in the idea. One thing I liked from the movie "Waking Life" was the idea to get a habit during waking hours to ask, "Is this a dream?" Again, the answer will be pretty clear (unless you really want to push it) but maybe doing this enough will make you ask it in a dream. And there you go.

Personally I'm not interested in having a whole bunch of lucid dreams. Mostly I prefer to be a spectator and think about them the next day. But when I have shitty moments, it'd be nice to be able to say, "Buh-Bye" That happened once, and it was awesome.


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Re: Lucid Dreaming ! [Re: hongomon]
    #2035528 - 10/23/03 10:35 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I think you should do that, just ask. Its funny because in a lot of my dreams im like halfway into the dream when all of a sudden something just a little bit out of the ordinary happens and then i go "Oh, im dreaming again, duh, ok" And the dream gets intresting and quite pornographic at times. Anyway. I think you should ask yourself every morning "am i still dreamin'?" I dont know if its just me but the stuff that happens during the morning is the ones that have the most influence in my dreams. You know like just the total opposide of the stuff im thinking about when i go to bed. So im going to try asking myself that in the morning and probably it will come up in a dream more often and like hongomon said once you are actually in the dream the answer is clear.


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