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LSD Question
    #3603418 - 01/09/05 12:36 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Today, I heard about some guy in college and he tried LSD once and "fried his brain" and could no longer do normal everyday things.Does anyone know if this kind of thing can happen. I have researched acid online and know alot about it but ive never heard of any kind of damage for one time use. Could it have been that the person was trying to scare us? Maybe the guy had an illness or something that came out when he did LSD? Or is it possible to have such a bad trip that you can't function? I have heard about people using acid so much that they have fried thier brain but not on the first time. Pretty much, I'm just wondering if anything like this could happen to you when you use LSD once.

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Re: LSD Question [Re: thedude100]
    #3603432 - 01/09/05 12:41 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

there is some guy in a city nearby that used to manufacture large amounts of lsd in a bathtub. he fell in one time and now he permanently thinks hes a glass of liquid and worries about people pouring him out. he seriously exists. i can tell you where to find him.

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Re: LSD Question [Re: JTHM]
    #3603442 - 01/09/05 12:43 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

sorry for the extra post, but another guy i know is in a mental institute because he never came down from his trip. im not trying to scare you. i have never done acid but some of my friends say its one of the best drugs. me, ill stick to the the mother nature grown goods.

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Re: LSD Question [Re: JTHM]
    #3603489 - 01/09/05 12:58 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

You're not being serious are you JTHM?

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Re: LSD Question [Re: Thin White Duke]
    #3603508 - 01/09/05 01:03 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I'm glad that you are telling me the dangers of LSD although I'm not exactly sure what you said was true. (If you are, in fact, telling the truth) At least the first post I have heard before but as a different story. (Pink Floyd's drummer took acid every day for a year and thought he was a glass of orange juice.) But I want to know if any kind of permanent brain damage or anything can occur after only light to moderate usage.

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Re: LSD Question [Re: thedude100]
    #3603519 - 01/09/05 01:06 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

What kind of a moron could accidently fall into a bathtub of LSD. If the guy knows how to make it I SERIOUSLY doubt he's going to be dumb enough to even risk falling in.


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Re: LSD Question [Re: thedude100]
    #3603568 - 01/09/05 01:15 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Woulda been funny to watch though  :popcorn:

As for LSD, in my oppinion if taken moderatly and responsibally, i see no danger in that.


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Re: LSD Question [Re: Mushie_Man]
    #3603652 - 01/09/05 01:36 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

you cant synth. LSD in a bathtub....wives tale...

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Re: LSD Question [Re: jedilkeme]
    #3603668 - 01/09/05 01:40 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

the whole thing about people thinking they are a glass of oj and its variants are just urban legends, nothing more.


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Re: LSD Question [Re: Snip]
    #3603694 - 01/09/05 01:46 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Who the hell would store 'cid in a bathtub?

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Re: LSD Question [Re: Fuzzt]
    #3603725 - 01/09/05 01:54 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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Fuzzt said:
Who the hell would store 'cid in a bathtub?




Obviously someone stupid enoguh to fall in  :imwithstupid:


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Re: LSD Question [Re: thedude100]
    #3603726 - 01/09/05 01:54 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I have done acid numerous times and I am just fine... :crazy2: :crazy2: :grin:But seriously, if done in moderation, you should be just fine. Just don't get carried away and/or trip with stupid, irresponsible people that act like morons sober. Get with some of your best, most reliable and chill friends, dose and you should have a good time. I warn you, though, if you have some screwed up things going on in your life that you think about often, then you might should take care of these things before you trip, or you could end up thinking about these things repeatedly while tripping. this is not fun- thinking in circles for 5 hours - not fun at all! good luck and happy tripping! :smile:


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Re: LSD Question [Re: thedude100]
    #3603743 - 01/09/05 01:58 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah i hate thinking about bad things in my life over and over while tripping, its kinda like paranoia with a twist  :crazy2:


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Re: LSD Question [Re: Mushie_Man]
    #3603976 - 01/09/05 02:55 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

if you have underlying psychological problems, yea you could be fucked if you do it, but i guess you could say the same for shrooms. and if you take to much you could freak out and have a traumatic event and be like the vietnam vets who lost it and are permanantly crazy without acid (well some of em without acid anyway)

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Re: LSD Question [Re: empnero]
    #3604340 - 01/09/05 04:17 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I remember a friend of mine telling me he won't do acid because he dosn't want to end up thinking he can fly and jump off of something, I probed further and found out that is what happened to his dad.

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Re: LSD Question [Re: Noetical]
    #3604673 - 01/09/05 05:31 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

" (Pink Floyd's drummer took acid every day for a year and thought he was a glass of orange juice.)"

Where'd you hear that, that's obviously a lie. Before Dave Gilmour joined the group, Syd Barrett, the guy who started the group did tons of acid. I heard people would even dose him sometimes when he didnt know. He became a schizophrenic. Also note, before he ever did any hallucinagens, he had showed schizophrenic signs, the drugs just brought it out earlier. Needless to say, Dave Gilmour took over as the guitarist.

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Re: LSD Question [Re: PFloyd]
    #3605004 - 01/09/05 06:43 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Yea, Syd Barret was the guy i was thinking of. But i just want to know if anyone has ever had like adverse reactions or anything and have compeltely lost it or have been permenantly changed.

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Re: LSD Question [Re: JTHM]
    #3605050 - 01/09/05 06:56 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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there is some guy in a city nearby that used to manufacture large amounts of lsd in a bathtub. he fell in one time and now he permanently thinks hes a glass of liquid and worries about people pouring him out. he seriously exists. i can tell you where to find him.




People spreading misinformation like this is the reason why so many people fear acid more than shrooms and what not because they think they will go "mad". I highly doubt you've ever met this guy you speak of and if you have it's probably just some crazy homeless guy and has nothing to do with LSD. You should really not spread complete and utter CRAP like that. I have heard that myth told so many different ways from so many different people in tons of different places.

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Re: LSD Question [Re: vandago]
    #3605122 - 01/09/05 07:17 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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there is some guy in a city nearby that used to manufacture large amounts of lsd in a bathtub. he fell in one time and now he permanently thinks hes a glass of liquid and worries about people pouring him out. he seriously exists. i can tell you where to find him.






People spreading misinformation like this is the reason why so many people fear acid more than shrooms and what not because they think they will go "mad". I highly doubt you've ever met this guy you speak of and if you have it's probably just some crazy homeless guy and has nothing to do with LSD. You should really not spread complete and utter CRAP like that. I have heard that myth told so many different ways from so many different people in tons of different places.





Amen to that vandango, JTHM plz dont post info without research to back up you claims!


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Re: LSD Question [Re: sui]
    #3605638 - 01/09/05 09:50 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

i just wanna say this, i know most of the shit is urban legends, but there was a guy who sold acid in nyc, who carried tabs in his inside coat pocket in a plastic bag, with another plastic bag on the outside so he wouldnt start tripping if it was humid or raining, but it wasnt sealed cause he was selling and its easier for him to reach in and pull the tabs out. the guy was an idiot in the 1st place, he made a reputation which is never good, this is years before i ever touched drugs, but people i knew from down the block used to buy from him. the police were going to bust him anyway, but it was raining out and some of the acid got wet and the water made contact with his skin, according to the cops the bag fell over in his pocket, he was freaking out when he got arrested, he didnt even realize cause of the plastic bag so he thought he was just losing it, the cops came to arrest him and he was going nuts by the time they got there, this was in an alley near the corner where he sat and sold it. apparently he was asking them for help while laying in the fetal position, they had a warrant and busted him, put him in the hospital, he tripped long and hard, they sedated him to stop him from freaking, but cause he got so scared, he became insane and paranoid, and used that in court, but all that did is make the majority of his sentace take place in an institution. the only reason he lost it was cause the quantity of shit that absorebed into his skin and the fact that he wasnt aware it was a drug and became dissociated, plus the intensity and length, not even to mention cops running up to him with a warrant and guns drawn, i freaked out when my RA walked into my dormroom whil i was triiping on 1 hit. that was traumatic, for me, i cant imagine for him, so he was basically permanatly paranoid. he did time in jail but he never wanted to leave his cell and was afraid of everything. he didnt think he was water or anything, he just panics alot, now hes in an institution, still serving time plus group therapy. my friend who freaked out cause of a non drug induced chemical imbalance heard about him there from some of the doctors caused he though he freaked out cause something was laced so he asked about people in there for drugs, but found out his problem was natural, he didnt know at the time and wanted to know, for consulation, if what he thought happened to him was common there. i didnt belive that story until my friend personally told me when we chilled after his 1st time in the institution, he was medicated (and actually still taking it at that point, not for long which is why say 1st time), so he wasnt chemically delusional at that point

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Re: LSD Question [Re: empnero]
    #3605742 - 01/09/05 10:17 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

If in fact this guy was real (which is highly unlikely considering people told you this), there's no way this 'insanity' would have start from it just absorbing in his skin.

It doesn't absorb that easily, there's no way that would happen from just being on the inside of his coat, or even touching his skin.

It would probably have to be stuck to his skin for hours and hours and hours... and even then I don't know if it would actually absorb that much.

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Re: LSD Question [Re: JTHM]
    #3605750 - 01/09/05 10:19 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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there is some guy in a city nearby that used to manufacture large amounts of lsd in a bathtub. he fell in one time and now he permanently thinks hes a glass of liquid and worries about people pouring him out. he seriously exists. i can tell you where to find him.




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SYNTHESIS : A solution of 6.7 g KOH in 100 mL H2O, under an inert atmosphere and magnetically stirred, was brought to 75 ?C, and 10 g ergotamine tartrate (ET) added. The reaction mixture turned yellow as the ergotamine went into solution over the course of 1 h. The stirring was continued for an additional 3 h. The reaction mixture was cooled to about 10 ?C with an external ice bath, and acidified to a pH of about 3.0 by the dropwise addition of 2.5 N H2SO4. White solids started to appear early in the neutralization; approximately 60 mL of sulfuric acid was required. The reaction mixture was cooled overnight, the solids removed by filtration, and the filter cake washed with 10 mL Et2O. The dry solids were transferred to a beaker, suspended in 50 mL 15 % ammonia in anhydrous ethanol, stirred for 1 h, and separated by decantation. This extraction was repeated, and the original decantation and the second extract combined and filtered to remove a few hundred milligrams of unwanted solids. The clear filtrate was stripped of solvent under vacuum, the residual solids dissolved in 50 mL of 1% aqueous ammonia, and this solution was acidified as before with 2.5 N H2SO4. The precipitated solids were removed by filtration and washed with Et2O until free of color. After drying under vacuum to a constant weight, there was obtained 3.5 g of d-lysergic acid hydrate, which should be stored in a dark, sealed container.
A suspension of 3.15 g d-lysergic acid hydrate and 7.1 g of diethylamine in 150 mL CHCl3 was brought to reflux with stirring. With the external heating removed, there was added 3.4 g POCl3 over the course of 2 min, at a rate sufficient to maintain refluxing conditions. The mixture was held at reflux for an additional 5 min, at which point everything had gone into solution. After returning to room temperature, the solution was added to 200 mL of 1 N NH4OH. The phases were separated, the organic phase dried over anhydrous MgSO4, filtered, and the solvent removed under vacuum. The residue was chromatographed over alumina with elution employing a 3:1 C6H6/CHCl3 mixture, and the collected fraction stripped of solvent under hard vacuum to a constant weight. This free-base solid can be recrystallized from benzene to give white crystals with a melting point of 87-92 ?C. IR (in cm-1): 750, 776, 850, 937 and 996, with the carbonyl at 1631. The mass spectrum of the free base has a strong parent peak at mass 323, with sizable fragments at masses of 181, 196, 207 and 221.

This base was dissolved in warm, dry MeOH, using 4 mL per g of product. There was then added dry d-tartaric acid (0.232 g per g of LSD base), and the clear warm solution treated with Et2O dropwise until the cloudiness did not dispel on continued stirring. This opaqueness set to a fine crystalline suspension (this is achieved more quickly with seeding) and the solution allowed to crystallize overnight in the refrigerator. Ambient light should be severely restricted during these procedures. The product was removed by filtration, washed sparingly with cold methanol, with a cold 1:1 MeOH/Et2O mixture, and then dried to constant weight. The white crystalline product was lysergic acid diethylamide tartrate with two molecules of methanol of crystallization, with a mp of about 200 ?C with decomposition, and weighed 3.11 g (66%). Repeated recrystallizations from methanol produced a product that became progressively less soluble, and eventually virtually insoluble, as the purity increased. A totally pure salt, when dry and when shaken in the dark, will emit small flashes of white light.





If you think you can make LSD in a bathtub you're an idiot. End of story.

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Re: LSD Question [Re: thedude100]
    #3605876 - 01/09/05 10:53 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

People have taken thumprint doses of LSD and returned to normal life. The experience perhaps changed them forever, in the same way Moses seeing God probably changed him forever, but they don't suddenly think they're glasses of orange juice or potatoes, as rumors go with much lesser doses of LSD.

Not to mention absorption through the skin really isn't an effective method, they probably only get a small fraction of the dose if it just got wet and spilled over their skin. If they have such intense psychotic episodes after LSD consumption, then chances are LSD was a catalyst for pre-existing mental problems rather than the sole cause of psychosis.

And if someone had a bathtub of LSD chances are the entire country would be flooded right now. Alas, he fell into it!  :rolleyes:


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Re: LSD Question [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #3605889 - 01/09/05 10:55 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

1st im not saying that its 100% true but aspects of it definately are, i dunno if the whole reason and was 100% true, but there was a guy in there, still in there who lost it from tripping while he was selling and didnt realized he was dosed, and he got arrested while tripping, my friend was in the same place cause he got picked by a cop up for acting wierd in public after someone called him in. and if you dont think it absorbs that easily, obviously youve never tripped off of a few drops on your skin, which is way more intense than blotters IMO and you start tripping in 45 min, about the same amount of time, most of my friends swear quicker, i dunno about that though, plus everytime ive used a blotter, ive kept it there for only 5 min. and when youre reachin the in bag every once in a while, i dont see why its not possible, especially when he was arrested with apparently 78 hits according to the story (yea i know that sounds too exact not to be made up). i didnt say that the absorbing cuased him to go insane, i said he went insane cause of the trauma and the fact that he was afraid and confused, also he may have only been playing that to get out of jail and into the institution, and stay there. and my friend is very much sane. as long as he takes his medicine, its just that when hes off of it for a while he 1st goes into mood swings and his diet and emotions can cause him to lose touch with reality if he goes long enough without his medication. he did stop taking it at 1 point cause it made him feel shitty, but hes back, hes fine and the doctors say hes normal as long as the imbalance is regualted, hes not a pathological liar, and he canrecall everything with exact detail according to the doctors from when he freaked. ive heard this same story from 4 friends, my friend from around the block who bought from this guy, a different friend, who live an hour away i know from school (the one who went nuts) and another kid who lived near by the dealer, who transfered to my school a year after the other one left, he was there the 1st night i ever tripped. and a friend whos an emt that rides on an ambulence in the city, he went to my school before i even got accepted there. none of these people knew or knew of the other ones except the emt and the crazy one, but they were there only for 1 year together and only knew each other from associated groups adn didnt talk much.

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Re: LSD Question [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #3605896 - 01/09/05 10:57 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

What ^he^ said  :tongue:


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Re: LSD Question [Re: empnero]
    #3605960 - 01/09/05 11:09 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

"he was arrested with apparently 78 hits according to the story (yea i know that sounds too exact not to be made up)"

Sounds too exact to not be made up? Think about this situation you're telling me for a minute.

78 hits? Exactly how can they tell how many 'hits' he had in his
system, and how many micrograms does a 'hit' contain?

You think the guy just somehow got water in a bag fully of blotters, and somehow ALL THE LSD went into this water, and went on his skin without him even noticing it, and then having it dry, and all absorb into his system?

Bull-SHIT.

There are so many flaws in this story it's laughable.

I can't believe anyone would believe such nonsense.

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Re: LSD Question [Re: empnero]
    #3605993 - 01/09/05 11:16 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

And you claim the police came up to him with a warrent?

:lol:

Do you have any idea what is involved in getting a warrent?

Would you also expect someone who regularly has lots of LSD on them, for selling, to be experienced in taking large doses? I would.

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Re: LSD Question [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #3606022 - 01/09/05 11:30 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

if you have tripped before on something else, then be my guest and try acid. like i said, wasnt trying to scare, but i know the perma-trip happens for sure.(the mental institute guy is real!) just be vary wary of who you get it from, and be careful when trying. do your homework. as for the liquid guy i have been offered to go meet him, apparently he walks around our street mall.(that one could be fake or the origin of his wierdness could be fake)ill admit that

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Re: LSD Question [Re: JTHM]
    #3606042 - 01/09/05 11:39 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

and i never said i met the tub dude, nor do i know how acid is manufactured. thanks for the info guys.

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Re: LSD Question [Re: JTHM]
    #3606064 - 01/09/05 11:46 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

The thing about crazy people is, they're crazy and you probably can't find out any real information about them if you ask.

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Re: LSD Question [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #3606083 - 01/09/05 11:51 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

who the fuck said in his system? in the bag, read again, arrested WITH 78 hits, not with it in him or on 78 hits, thats impossible to know, and i didnt say they were blotters in the bag, it couldve been blotters, geltabs, microdots, i dont know, also i never said it was all in his system, 400ug have freaked me out before. and yes, 2 of my best friends fathers are cops, as is one of my friends and 3 friends of the family and one of their uncles used to do drug busts but got shot on one so now he does dept of corrections, and i know many judges cause of political connections through my job and through my family, also knew the old cheif of police after meeting him at a bipartisan political dinner party. i know all about warrants and have witnessed them carried out on drugbusts ive seen at school. 2 in particular that i remeber, 1 in my parking lot hen the guy was running, the other near my friends house. it was out for 2 months before that according to the story, they just busted him on that day, unfortunate coincidence, or he was id'd after someone saw him freaking, i dunno, there may have been no warrant, that could be an embelishment, i already admitted i dont know how much is true and how much is beefed up. and the person ive bought off of the 1st times i did it had never tried acid before, and he used to sell coke and had never tried that, he only blazed smoked opium, opium very rarely, both of which he also sold. i knwo many people who sell drugs that have never tried em, i knew lots way back in highschool that sold weed without ever smoking. and i know peopl who sell e and coke to this day that have never tried their shit, 1 of the people tried e for the 1st time 2 months ago when he got pure molly, the rest still havent, including 1 who just got arrested about 20-30 days ago, who also had a warant out, i know that cause a foaf worked at the club with him where he sold it and got busted, i was reading the ims on my friends comp when the kid got off of work. i expect the flaws cause like i said, i dont know how much is true, but like i said, man is in a nut house after being arrested for selling and was tripping at the time and freaked out, thats all i know to be 100%, the rest is hearsay. and even heavily experienced people have bad trips and get dissociated. nothing here at all is impossible, let alone improbable

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Re: LSD Question [Re: empnero]
    #3606152 - 01/10/05 12:05 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Ok
1) There where few guys that thought that they where having cocaine and used over 4000 doses of LSD. The fact is that there is a limit of the intensity of the trip - anything above it and you fall faint. Besides they had enough acid for a long time - those guys where just fine (mentaly and physicaly)
2) I've heard that Hoffman (or maybe Leary?) had a bath full of acid :wink:
3) I've heard somewhere that you need LSD combined with something (or in the proper form) to trip while touching your skin.
4) I think that those stories are just made up by guys who have freaked out of thier true self while tripping and are spreading lies...


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Re: LSD Question [Re: Kras]
    #3606316 - 01/10/05 12:37 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

ive seen reports of that before, with the crystals, their eyes got all bulged and they simply passed out. #2 is a bit surprising, but reasonably beliveable. i guess #3 could be true, haven heard it though, i know liquid acid and blotters are effective that way, thats all i know of, all ive seen. and
"4) I think that those stories are just made up by guys who have freaked out of thier true self while tripping and are spreading lies... "
thats more than likely, infact id be willing to bet that youre right. all i was doing was reapeting something i heard form numerous people, confirming a similar story, one of wich i am very close with, who is my fraternal brother for life (actually another is an alum, i dont know him well though), closer than my real family and when someone says "which is highly unlikely considering people told you this" i take that as an insult to them, especially when theyre bein pompus and all knowing to me, so i have to defend him, because i am and will always be there for him whether it means defending his account, bailing him out of jail, taking him to the hospital or carrying his coffin. if it wasnt for the above i wouldve left this thread alone and shut my mouth and let people think what they want. Kras, i concede that youre prob right, and the 'dealer' may have conjured that story and told that to the doctors and in group, or some of it maybe true, i dunno. all 2nd hand info and i cant confirm it other than what ive been told. that being said, im done with this particular thread, it no longer exists are far as im concerend, no response to me is required or even worth typing, think what you want of the stories, my friends and me, i dont care. so everyone, have a nice day, and think happier thoughts than freaking out, please. its not common and there are more myths than real stories about it.
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Re: LSD Question [Re: empnero]
    #3607143 - 01/10/05 08:44 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Hey! Don't take it personal... Sorry to insult you - I never wanted to...


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Re: LSD Question [Re: Kras]
    #3607829 - 01/10/05 01:15 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

i remember rollin on some mescaline tabs and having bad shit goin on in my life at the time and i flipped out talking about killin myself thinking people were coming to kill me and i was trippin and rollin nuts flippin out yellin and shit so ya u gotta be carefull and i remember my brain being fucked for a whole week after that stuck on the stuff i thought about that nite


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Re: LSD Question [Re: digitalcube]
    #3608764 - 01/10/05 04:21 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

what about the side-effect of acid being stored in your spine? isnt that for life? flashbacks?

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Re: LSD Question [Re: JTHM]
    #3609231 - 01/10/05 06:11 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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what about the side-effect of acid being stored in your spine? isnt that for life? flashbacks?



MYTHS. Quit fucking spreading misinformation >_<. I can't believe I sat through this thread and you just keep on coming with it...

Erowid - LSD FAQ
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LSD does not form "crystals" that reside in the body to be "dislodged"
later, causing flashbacks. LSD is a crystalline solid (though it is
unlikely that one would ever have enough to be visible to the naked
eye) but it is easily water soluble, thus cannot form bodily
deposits. Furthermore, it is metabolized and excreted in hours. The
bogus "loosened crystal" description in not necessary to explain
flashbacks, which are psychological phenomena (see FLASHBACKS).

LSD does not cause chromosome damage.




Take some time to educate yourself.

[edit]To be fully clear, flashbacks aren't a myth, but you can get flashbacks from ANY intense emotional experience (read the FAQ, I'm tired of typing at you)[/edit]


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Re: LSD Question [Re: delta9]
    #3609532 - 01/10/05 07:14 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

if you would quit flaming and actually read the posts...i was asking you all so i could get some information. dont act like a kid. question marks after all sentences/words. i was asking for confirmation on the things i heard.

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Re: LSD Question [Re: JTHM]
    #3609556 - 01/10/05 07:19 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

i would also like to know what acid can be or is commonly laced with, if anything. what are the side-effects of those? once again, just asking. dont flame me.

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Re: LSD Question [Re: Noetical]
    #3609576 - 01/10/05 07:23 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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I remember a friend of mine telling me he won't do acid because he dosn't want to end up thinking he can fly and jump off of something, I probed further and found out that is what happened to his dad.




well, thats a different story, if you do lsd and think you can fly and find out the hard way then you are just a retard...

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Re: LSD Question [Re: Tremor1127]
    #3609621 - 01/10/05 07:34 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

btw, this whole thread has made me laugh a total of 78 times...

lemme just put it this way, theres recorded documents of people ingesting HUGE doses, mg++++++++++++++++ doses, not mcg (micrograms, 1,000,000ths of a gram) FRIGGIN MILLIGRAMS and they not only lived through it, but after their ungodly wild trip they came down and are not vegtables in a nuthouse... 1 gram is good for something like 10-20,000 hits...

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Re: LSD Question [Re: JTHM]
    #3609622 - 01/10/05 07:34 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Acid isn't USUALLY laced with anything, because there can't be an active amount put in the area.

If it isn't acid, then it's another drug, not acid and another drug.


DigitalCube: Mescaline tabs? It may have been something else. If it was tabs it's doubtful it was mescaline.

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Re: LSD Question [Re: JTHM]
    #3609648 - 01/10/05 07:39 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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i would also like to know what acid can be or is commonly laced with, if anything. what are the side-effects of those? once again, just asking. dont flame me.




if you buy liquid, it probably isnt "laced" with anything, it will just be a whole other drug all together... if you buy blotter hits (only 1/4inch square) most likely nothing, for a few reasons... 1. why waste other good drugs by dropping them on blotter with the bombdiggity itself... 2. blotter can only hold mcgs, and lsd is such a potent psychadelic that it becomes active at around 25mcg...

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Re: LSD Question [Re: Tremor1127]
    #3609653 - 01/10/05 07:40 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

yeah ive only seen pure mescaline once, and they were in stuffed horsepills...  :crazy2:

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Re: LSD Question [Re: JTHM]
    #3609665 - 01/10/05 07:44 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

LSD is usually LSD.

You will only ever get a select few RC chems, such as AMT, being masqueraded off as acid.

This is because not many psychedelics are active in that small a range and can be administered onto a blotter.

As with any RC, their effects vary. But generally side-effects can include anxiety, tension, nausea and vomiting, decrease in coordination, muscle aching, headaches, jaw clenching (trisma). If you suspect you have been misdosed and feel "off" or unwell, contact a hospital or notify the proper emergency authorities.

Nausea is quite uncommon with LSD, so if you are experiencing these symptoms you have most likely been given something that is not what you bought.

In any case, you are more than likely going to be fine if you exercise a little caution and know your substances.

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Re: LSD Question [Re: BorgFace]
    #3609782 - 01/10/05 08:12 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Damn.....I can't believe the bullshit some of these people actually believe. I can't even think of anything else to say, considering it already has been......some people just don't listen.  :rolleyes:  Thanks to everyone who tried to educate.......  http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1427364/page//fpart/1/vc/1


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Re: LSD Question [Re: Dark_Star]
    #3611591 - 01/11/05 06:38 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

its sad because when i was younger i believed alot of crap about lsd, now days i do research and find out the truth of matters and was abit shocked to find out just how safe lsd is... lsd is safer than alchohal and tobacco...

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    #3611970 - 01/11/05 09:48 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Read the faqs and stop talking bullshit people. It's on my sig.


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    #3618721 - 01/12/05 02:50 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I heard the story about the guy who thinks he's a big jug of orange juice from several people where i used to go to college supposedly the guy drank a whole vial of acid and freaked out really bad and he supposedly lived near campus. It is total bullshit though i just thought it was weird how rumors can get so big and have people believe there is a local guy that is on a perma-trip. My point being there are too many rumors about drugs. Everything should be questioned and researched before any assumptions are made.


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Re: LSD Question [Re: Gainer]
    #3619545 - 01/12/05 05:15 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

From what I've read about the so-called "Orange Juice" guy,he supposedly had eaten a whole 10 strip and during his trip he thought he was a glass of OJ.When he finally got back his friends teased him and told the story to so many people that in turn told it so many times that the story evolved into what it is now.I heard that story back in 1991 when I was in 6th grade.I've heard so many b/s LSD fables its not even funny.I especially like the one about the guy who tripped so hard that he ate his arm thinking it was a roast beef sandwich.How many people do you know of that would be hungry if they tripped that hard?There are so many misconceptions about LSD that it makes people afraid of giving it a try.People,if you have'nt tried LSD before PLEASE don't believe stupid stories like that.You make yourself look stupid when you try to explain your reasons for not trying.Its okay to fear the drugs but theres no reason to be terrified of any of them.

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Re: LSD Question [Re: Baton_Rouge_Voodoo]
    #3620995 - 01/12/05 09:58 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

What I really want to know is where to find this shit nowadays. I'll dose anyday when I can find it.


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Re: LSD Question [Re: Minimalist]
    #3622187 - 01/13/05 02:41 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

If any newbie will think that he can fly - PLEASE! Take off from the ground! :wink:


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Re: LSD Question [Re: Kras]
    #3622377 - 01/13/05 04:46 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I fried my brain with acid but I'm fine. :smile: What is considered a brain frie anyways? :smile: The fact that you are permanently changed? Most people are after LSD.


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Re: LSD Question [Re: repemon]
    #3622826 - 01/13/05 10:09 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

lol ate his own arm thats a good one. I may get to try acid for my first time this weekend. Finally able to get some i been wanting to try it for so long it just hasnt been around or maybe i just didn't know the right people.


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    #3624070 - 01/13/05 03:55 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

There is is a word we have for that story about the guy who fried his brain and it is BULLSHIT. I have heard that story too and it is a lie made up by the Partnership for a Drug Free America. they lie alot and one time they even got sued for it and lost.

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    #3624329 - 01/13/05 04:53 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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they lie alot and one time they even got sued for it and lost.



:thumbup: You just made my day....it's so nice to hear about those fuckers getting their asses handed to them.... :cool: :smile: :sun:


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Re: LSD Question [Re: thedude100]
    #8313662 - 04/22/08 09:01 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

having tried acid only a few times i cant tell u the long term effects, alls i can tell ya is i came out of each trip o.k (i think)... apparently it has alot to do with ur current mindset, so take that into serious consideration.

one of my old mates never was the same after a bad trip.

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Re: LSD Question [Re: thedude100]
    #8313944 - 04/22/08 10:56 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

In my opinion
none of us,
who have taken psychedelics,
have been unchanged.

many have fared well
some have gone badly

if this is a concern of yours, stay away from psychedelics.
control is not part of the formula:
set + setting + dose = trippin
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setting had control before hand (hopefully)
mind set had control before hand (maybe)
dose had control before hand (hopefully)

when tripping starts it is a kind of coast+reaction complex
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Re: LSD Question [Re: redgreenvines]
    #8314139 - 04/22/08 11:58 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

a couple years ago, 3 friends of mine got ahold of a vial of acid. 2 had never done it before. the other only a couple times. they all took 2 hits and started tripping. then once they were having a great time, they ended up squirting the whole thing into each others mouths. 3 people killed 1 vial. said they tripped for 2 or 3 days. lot of crazy shit happened that day, from what im told.

none of them died, none of them are in psych-wards. 1 is a close friend of mine still, who i hang out with almost every day. another i dont talk to much, he spends his time training and cage fighting. the other, well. hes still a moron. only thing that happened was that he did come out of the closet, and became boyfriends with the guy at the pizza place downtown...


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Re: LSD Question [Re: PilzeEssen]
    #8314324 - 04/22/08 12:47 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

:kingcrankey:

too much bs concentrated in one thread.

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Re: LSD Question [Re: John Smith]
    #8314647 - 04/22/08 02:31 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

definately not bullshit.

Quote:

sixsystemz said:
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PilzeEssen said:
im going to direct a friend of mine this thread to write up a trip report of his first time dropping acid. youre gonna love it. it seems pretty hard to believe, but im sure some of you out there have done something similar. im not one of them. most acid ive ever done was 3 liquid drops of some potent acid.

ill just say this, it involves 3 inexperienced lsd users, a vial of liquid, and 3 days of retarded chaos.




I had never used LSD before one of my friends aquired a vial of some very good liquid and we all decided that it was time to try it out. So we went to a friends house and each took two drops on the tongue. Not much later i started to feel kind of funny, a nice body high and my teeth felt weird. We had found a friend that would be our "baby sitter" and I had her hide the rest of the vial in her room so we wouldn't get carried away with it. Once we were about an hour and a half into the trip we were all having the time of our lives laughing and experiencing something that i had never imagined. A little later on i noticed on of the others was missing after looking around the room for a minute i saw him peeking his head out from around the door of a room, tongue out with the vile dripping into his mouth. He had found it! Of course we all had to partake of a little more so we could share the same experience. Then it happened we definately got a little carried away and began squirting the vial into eachothers mouths until sadly it was gone. Now, i will never know how much was actually in that vial but from my experince now it was damn near full. This was the first and only time i have ever actually hallucinated anything that i could actually see pick up and play with. IT WAS AMAZING!! for about two and a half days we stayed in that house never going outside. The first twelve hours was a blurr and we all seem to have come back to reality at about the same time all of the sudden after this crazy void or whatever you wana call we just kind of popped back and were overwhelmed by hallucinations that i could never completely describe. Its like your mind and imagination just kind of flows out of your eyes and everything becomes reality. for two days there was water everywhere about a foot of water everywhere we stood that we could spash around and play in it was actually there. I would splash it on someone and then dry my hand off on my pants. I tried to break up weed and it was just all of these little bugs crawling all over the place! They would even crawl off of the book i was using and somehow end up on the walls and floor. The craziest part is that when you get closer to see that its just weed the bugs get more detailed. They are really there! you can see all of their little legs and eyes and what not it was insane. After a while of all of these crazy hallucintions that are litterally unbelievable we just kind of got used to it and had alot of fun. What was really cool and helps me understand the whole combined conciousness thing and oneness is that we were all seing the same shit! we could point at something laughing and tell eachother to check it out and all of this crazy shit we were seing was together. It was really strong waves too i can remember coming down from one holding onto the side of a couch standing up completely out of breath, and then feeling the next one coming and saying to eveyone "holy shit here we go again!" these waves continued for about a day slowly getting more intense, and then slowing down after a while. After finally going outside on the third day and seing the whole other world out there we went downtown and had a blast. The hole time i was wondering if we would ever really come down because the ground was still made out of an ocean of bugs crawling around. I remember being starved after forgetting to eat for a while. I got a burrito and the rice and cheese and stuff was a group of bugs in shit crawling out of it. My freind couldnt eat it and threw his but i was so hungry i forced myself to with my eyes closed. At some point in this trip we all decided to go get the same tattoo we had decided on the word "enjoy" which we all went and got on our lower arms. This is a mark that will always remind me of that lifechanging experience. I have never been the same since then and eat about a drop a week when i can aquire it. That is the only time i have ever actually hallucinated something other than watching the walls breathe or seing plants kind of grow and shrink. It was great. I would guess we each ate about 20 to 25 hits at around 2 to 3hundred mics per hit,and it was awesome. To this day LSD is by far my favorite drug. I can go on for hours about the experience but im tired of typing soon i will get a picture of my tat and post it.




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Re: LSD Question [Re: PilzeEssen]
    #8314673 - 04/22/08 02:40 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

dude:confused:

i was talking about the rest of the thread. not your post.:tongue:


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Re: LSD Question [Re: John Smith]
    #8314703 - 04/22/08 02:48 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

sorry lol. just wanted to make sure you dont think im full of shit.

im not one of these little kids thats retarded and doesnt know a damn thing/ makes up rediculous stories.


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Re: LSD Question [Re: empnero]
    #8315002 - 04/22/08 04:00 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Please Send Back ( lsd question ) [Re: thedude100]
    #15185227 - 10/06/11 07:39 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Hey There to all.. im active weed smoker 6months ago ( 4-5 joints a day )  I want to try LSD trip, but im kinda scared, i dont know what feeling the drug will give me, can someone tell me everything that happends on LSD ( how many hours you will be on the drug, Will your eyes become like on weed .. , will you phisical be normal like every day, but in your mind you will make 1000 movies ) Describe everything !! i need to know... I dont know why im so fcking scared from LSD, i never tried any other drug except weed !

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