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Scarfmeister
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LSD what is producing those unbelievable hallucinations?
#2093051 - 11/11/03 03:22 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have had the fortune to try some really good acid. One blotter is enough to totally blow me away. I been thinking. What exactly is happening to me that makes me see all this crazy far out shit. I was laying on my friends bed feeling messed up and watched the intense trailers my hands and arms produced when i noticed that the color red from the painting over his bed started to come out of the painting in the form of a very big and very noticeable red smoky cloud of paint. I mean it wasn't just swirling around on the painting itself but it was actually 3 dimensional. I remember stretching my arm up to touch the cloud.
Things are just so fucking out of control when i trip its not even funny. When i went out to the balcony to get some fresh air. The entire world was moving like the ground was made out of water and everything moved like big waves. Totally crazy. I have so many examples of really weird and super intense hallucinations.
How can my eyes deceive me so incredibly much?
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Re: LSD what is producing those unbelievable hallucinations? [Re: Scarfmeister]
#2093241 - 11/11/03 04:04 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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I love the visuals I get from LSD. Some of my friends say they don't get visuals. If that's true, I think they are missing out. I get intense visuals from mushrooms too. Tiles really made me see waves. Look at the ground where there are tiles. The cracks between them are usually the peaks of the waves.
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Re: LSD what is producing those unbelievable hallucinations? [Re: Scarfmeister]
#2093264 - 11/11/03 04:09 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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this is why^^^ ,its a lot bigger than dmt and psilocin.so it can avtivate more neurotransmitters. if you take like 4-5 hits your guaranteed to have the best visuals of your life.
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Re: LSD what is producing those unbelievable hallucinations? [Re: Infrared]
#2093296 - 11/11/03 04:16 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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Two hits gave me a hardcore body buzz and great mind fuck, but the only visuals I got were breathing wall type visuals. I went to see Matrix Revolution and the words on the screen before the movie looked as if I were looking at them from underwater. By the way, Matrix Revolution is an awesome movie to see while tripping.
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Re: LSD what is producing those unbelievable hallucinations? [Re: Ekstaza]
#2093326 - 11/11/03 04:25 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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what kind were they? blotters are weak today, you have to take like 5 to have a good trip.
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Scarfmeister
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Re: LSD what is producing those unbelievable hallucinations? [Re: Infrared]
#2093358 - 11/11/03 04:32 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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People must really get crappy acid. The visuals is get is nothing short of mind-blowing. Its not like i have to stare at something to see them they are all over the place almost all the time. On shrooms i can get pretty good visuals but if i want them to get really intense i have to stare for a while on something, acid is nothing like that. Its just unbelievable. When i try to tell people what i have seen they look at me in disbelieve and its really bugging me.
I just wish that every one in this world could have seen the things i have seen for just a short while. Its not like i felt enlightened or anything but the auditory and visual hallucinations i got beats the hell out of anything in a theme park thats for god damn sure.
My friend who gave me the acid told me later that he never ingested more then half a blotter.
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Re: LSD what is producing those unbelievable hallucinations? [Re: Infrared]
#2093415 - 11/11/03 04:50 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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They were blotter. The Eyes.
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Re: LSD what is producing those unbelievable hallucinations? [Re: Ekstaza]
#2093614 - 11/11/03 05:59 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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I would say that one dose of shrooms--(1/8th cubes) gives me 10 times more visuals then one dose of anykind of the acid I've dropped. I got a hold of some dank Microdots like 4 years ago as well as some of those blue gels and I still had to eat up to 3-4 to match the visuals from shrooms. I dont know how much acid there was in 1 dose back in the 60's...but dose per dose, I flat out hallucinate alot more from shrooms. 1 hit of Cid usually gets me trails breathing walls body buzz which is sometimes all I want if Im doin a music session or hittin up a rave.
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Re: LSD what is producing those unbelievable hallucinations? [Re: orizon]
#2093836 - 11/11/03 07:09 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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Deepblue, i only have expierence with blotter from 00 - today, but the stuff that was out this summer/fall is quite stronger then the stuff i was sampling in 00-01. 1 hit of the flies got me to where i wanted to be, anymore then that and it might of been too much for me. Where as i would regularly eat 2-4 hits in the past. It could also bee i havent taken lsd in the 2 year break.
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Re: LSD what is producing those unbelievable hallucinations? [Re: baraka]
#2093912 - 11/11/03 07:30 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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i havent taken any acid recently because i cant find any, but from what i hear most of the blotters going around today are weak. from like 96-01 there were tons of good ass hits. i took 1 blue ufo in 01 and i had awesome visuals, they were like dripping blue probably like 150-200 mics a piece. IMO you arent really having an acid trip unless you take 500 mics. 800-1000 is when the fun starts happening
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Re: LSD what is producing those unbelievable hallucinations? [Re: baraka]
#2093932 - 11/11/03 07:34 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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I found the hallucinations on shrooms are not comparable to LSD hallucinations. With shrooms, you will almost always see an object for what it is-- ie. I'm looking at my fingers, but there's a motion blur when I wave my hand, or I'm looking at a paining that seems to jump out. But on LSD, you could have crazy ass hallucinations like sound waves that you can see and things happening or objects appearing that aren't really there.. Would you guys agree?
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Re: LSD what is producing those unbelievable hallucinations? [Re: f8L]
#2094345 - 11/11/03 09:12 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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I disagree for the most part. Iv'e seen crazier and more hallucinations on shrooms than I have on LSD. Its alot harder to try and take down 4 doses (half an ounce!!!) of shrooms than it is to just place 4 tabs on your tounge (or cut your tabs bigger). My friend used to measure out this liquid he got and we took 900 mics a piece. It was a great night. Of couse we hallucinated a bunch and I would go into my trip report but I never really like to give half ass reports and my reports take atleast 20 minutes to read. I have a diary where I keep them all. I totally agree with you DeepBlue. I wish I can share with the world the experiences I have had on psychadelics first handlingly. And I would love to first handingly enjoy the experiences of every single person who has tripped. (that would take a few centurues if I was goin 24 hours a day so I think I'd have to singe some people out hehe). ANyways they are both definately differnt drugs but if somebody asked me to compare LSD to any other drug I would have to say shrooms. As far as the actual trip goes, I have to say that they each have there benefits...but after the peak, I feel so eaten up from acid. Shrooms I just float into a sleep when they begin to wear off. But Acid hangover is a killer. When you dosed at 10 the night before and are still awake the next day at 1200 it sucks. And its not like you feel the body buzz at all anymore...you just cant sleep. "Tired but Wired" and even after you finally pass out and wake up from your 12 hour slumber, there is still some hangover. I also sometimes feel incredibly dirty. Like just all over my body and in my house just dirt!!! showers dont solve this. I have felt big time depression before as well. Shrooms are so natural and the day after I just feel reborn or the same I did before I dosed.
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Re: LSD what is producing those unbelievable hallucinations? [Re: f8L]
#2095197 - 11/12/03 12:46 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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i've seen cops that weren't there when i was on shrooms. like, i really thought they were real. and i thought the guns were real. and i thought they were really pointed at me. and i really thought i was god. and i really thought i was dieing and then dead. i had a really really bad trip.
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Re: LSD what is producing those unbelievable hallucinations? [Re: Scarfmeister]
#2095688 - 11/12/03 03:58 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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I like what Leary said:
"Acid is a new way to think"
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Re: LSD what is producing those unbelievable hallucinations? [Re: Infrared]
#2096045 - 11/12/03 07:09 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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Deepblue: I couldn't imagine taking over 2 hits of the grey-backed fractals from bonaroo.. its really sad to know that people have to experience weak acid.. I consider myself blessed to get ahold of those fractals though..
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Re: LSD what is producing those unbelievable hallucinations? [Re: Infrared]
#2096181 - 11/12/03 07:43 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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DeepBlue42 said: what kind were they? blotters are weak today, you have to take like 5 to have a good trip.
This summer I had some weak acid (double-sided fractals & tie-dyes)
In the last couple of months I've had some great acid (fly blotter and unknown purple blotter)!
I certainly don't need 5 hits to have a good trip if the hits are legit.
I've had some pretty intense visuals on 1.5 hits of purple blotter: Drawing 3 dimensional solar systems in front of my face with my finger. And on just over 1 hit of fly blotter: Erowid art on my monitor morphing, flowing, with incredible detail, and rising up out of my monitor into 3D space (this was about 8 hours after dosing too).
I agree LSD gives the best visuals. The detail, color, and dimension of it can't be matched.
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Re: LSD what is producing those unbelievable hallucinations? [Re: bluedolphin]
#2097914 - 11/12/03 04:01 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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I took 3 hit's of good cid the other day and it was sooo incredible.. I'd halucinated off 2 of these same hit's but this was insane.. I watched these prism like object's that had triangular window's at each of the corner's which would open and close mechanicaly revealing little symbols and picture's inside of them or door way's which would lead to other similar rooms.. It then morphed and changed into a DNA strand from the side but looked like a cosmic lotus blooming from the top.. It was like watching a thousand forms take shape and come to life in front of your eye's featuring colours that there aren't even names for.. I love acid.. I find it can get you much higher than shrooms..
Edited by Bhairabas (11/12/03 04:06 PM)
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Re: LSD what is producing those unbelievable hallucinations? [Re: Scarfmeister]
#2101823 - 11/13/03 01:09 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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Interesting theory about this in Arthur Janovs "The primal scream". Says the more neurotic you are, the more repressed feelings and fear you have of them, the more your mind creates symbolic flights of fantasy to symbolise them or avoid facing them.
The less neurotic you are the less psychedelics affect you - they simply produce an enhanced perception and a greater emotional intensity.
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Re: LSD what is producing those unbelievable hallucinations? [Re: Xlea321]
#2101841 - 11/13/03 01:13 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm about to go on a cid trip havent done it in 3 years.
interestingly enough I've changed more in the last 3 years than the entire duration of my life. It will be interesting to see the differences in my state of mind and how that unfolds the trip and what I get out of it.
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Re: LSD what is producing those unbelievable hallucinations? [Re: LikwidDrawp]
#2104861 - 11/14/03 03:02 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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The visuals are because Acid turns off(at least dampens) the "Raphe cells"
What do these cells do you ask?????? (this is the REALLY trippy part!!!!!!)
These Cells DAMPEN activity in the "higher" thinking areas of the brain, and in some of the oldest parts of the brain.
So, as my friend Andrew says, "Ive been inhbiting my inhibitors that have been inhibiting me."
trippy huh
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Re: LSD what is producing those unbelievable hallucinations? [Re: Infrared]
#2105227 - 11/14/03 07:08 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
DeepBlue42 said: IMO you arent really having an acid trip unless you take 500 mics. 800-1000 is when the fun starts happening
I totally totally totally agree Mindblowing visuals that are better than the time i ate a quarter of shrooms
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Re: LSD what is producing those unbelievable hallucinations? [Re: Xlea321]
#2107078 - 11/14/03 04:40 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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Soo....if this is true, than i don't repress much..cool. I never understood friends who dosed and then would see things that weren't there...i've never had that happen. i get visuals, but nothing that wasn't an alteration of what was already there. I mean, I COULD make something that was there appear to be something else, but not create something out of nothing. So at least there's no neurosis to fuck up my psychosis. HEHE. Stay Frosty. R.C.
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Re: LSD what is producing those unbelievable hallucinations? [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
#2108031 - 11/14/03 10:52 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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the last time i can recall takin really good acid was when i had just gotten back home from a new years trip to portugal in 98. while there i tripped balls like never before. i had done good lsd in the states for years back in the early to mid 90's but toward the end of the 90's it was all blotter shit. it wasnt until i went to portugal that i got a reall taste of some crazy shit. i didnt have that gross feeling white blotter gives and i was tripping for hours of half of a hit. anyways, i snuck back ONE hit in a cd case for my friend that had taken me to portugal, and ended up eating it with 2 other friends when i got home. we split one hit between 3 and we beamed for at least 6 hrs....non stop laughter. unreal.....word is that it isnt readily available in portugal anymore which is too bad cause that is prob the craziest shit i've ever had in my life. ive yet to come accross anything like it in the states to this day.....they were called painota mix....yum...painota...
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Re: LSD what is producing those unbelievable hallucinations? [Re: Infrared]
#2108895 - 11/15/03 11:35 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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I sampled the ufos in 2001, i cant remember thier colors but a ufo took up 4 squares. The fly blotter i had was definatly more potent. We broke in some first time lsd trippers this fall and if the flies would of been more potent some of them probably would of had a bad time. I was quite suprised where one took me. Almost all the paper ive ate has been just plane white lined stuff in 2001, and it was pretty poor quality. edit: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/show_image.php?image=lsd/lsd_blotter2.gif bot right of that erowid collage is the ufos.
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Edited by baraka (11/15/03 11:39 AM)
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Re: LSD what is producing those unbelievable hallucinations? [Re: baraka]
#2108909 - 11/15/03 11:46 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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Does anyone else remember Hoffmans? Over here in the Uk they were around in the late '90's must have had 400ug+ each, we typically used to take halves and quarters. The major problem with people not getting visuals etc is storage IMO. Too many dealers, especially lower down the chain, don't have a clue how to look after acid properly - i.e. airtight dark container at 4 degrees.
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Re: LSD what is producing those unbelievable hallucinations? [Re: MetaShroom]
#2108929 - 11/15/03 11:56 AM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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=( i've never tried acid, i hope i am blessed to some day, this post makes me so jealous. Peace.
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Re: LSD what is producing those unbelievable hallucinations? [Re: RespectTheFungus]
#2124089 - 11/19/03 10:42 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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i as well have never gotten to experiance any lsd. i think could get a degree in chemistry and be able to produce my own before some comes my way.
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