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 ShRo_0My
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LSD and mushrooms....soft drugs?!!!!!!! please read... 
#1234835 - 01/20/03 05:33 PM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hi all. Im an OG'er and im having quite a hard time trying to tell them that lsd and mushrooms are not soft drugs. ~shabang~ (webmaster) made a post about DXM, E and OTHER DRUGS, and how they are not allowed to be posted about in overgrow, and that SOFT drugs like LSD and mushrooms are. I find this very degrating, because he is giving false info to minors that look at that site, and it hink he should change his words around. can you all help me out, by posting that they are hard, and shouldent be confused, with anything soft, because they most definetly ARE NOT! im just trying to make a point...thankyou all!
if you think they are SOFT, then cool, give me your reasons...thank you.
http://www.overgrow.com/edge/showthread.php?s=&threadid=228634&perpage=15&pagenumber=1
my name is MistaSsSmokUPalot
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 Re: LSD and mushrooms....soft drugs?!!!!!!! please read... [Re: ShRo_0My]
#1234981 - 01/20/03 06:38 PM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think it's funny how people try to classify drugs as 'hard' and 'soft'
what makes a drug soft? or vice versa? The amount of damage it does on your body? haha. If so, yes, compared to dxm and E(just an example)...lsd and shrooms are soft drugs 
Drugs are drugs. There is drugs that are more powerful, drugs that do more damage to your body, etc....but I don't feel that drugs should be classified as 'soft' or 'hard'
But I do feel that lsd and shrooms don't do as much 'damage' to the body(i use that word loosely) as say, dxm or E
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Re: LSD and mushrooms....soft drugs?!!!!!!! please read... [Re: juicemonkey]
#1235013 - 01/20/03 06:53 PM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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LSD and Shrooms are HARD drugs in the way that they can be Hard to handle, can let you unable to do normal fonctions in case of emergency and could change your life in just one use...hehe...
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juicemonkey
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Re: LSD and mushrooms....soft drugs?!!!!!!! please read... [Re: KOPELANDIAA]
#1235027 - 01/20/03 06:59 PM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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That doesn't go for every single time you use them. At higher doses, yes...you can be in outerspace
Using the same logic, alchol is a VERY hard drug. Marijauna can be VERY hard for some people to handle, and it's changed some people's life after one use(rare, but it's happened), so I guess marijuana is a hard drug too
Drugs shouldn't be classified. Drugs are Drugs. Some are safer, some are not.
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Re: LSD and mushrooms....soft drugs?!!!!!!! please read... [Re: juicemonkey]
#1235041 - 01/20/03 07:12 PM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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yes, i agree with you juice. You should post that on overgrow, and talk some sense into people!! haha, i kinda gave up, dosent mean you guys have too!!!!!
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Re: LSD and mushrooms....soft drugs?!!!!!!! please read... [Re: ShRo_0My]
#1235078 - 01/20/03 07:33 PM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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LSD is most definately HARD AS FUCK, I do not see how ANYBODY can classify LSD as SOFT... ITS ANYTHING BUT SOFT. Shrooms are different with different doses. LSD is hard as in, you sweat bullets and your jaw reverberates and the millions of thoughts that race through the mind a minute. I see shrooms as a relaxed LSD and there's much more clarity rather than the complete havoc LSD produces to everything besides the thoughts of the mind.
This is hard to explain and I'm tired, if you can't understand what I'm trying to get at tell me and I'll give some examples,
Dilauded
Edited by Dilauded (01/20/03 07:36 PM)
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Re: LSD and mushrooms....soft drugs?!!!!!!! please read... [Re: ShRo_0My]
#1235098 - 01/20/03 07:46 PM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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although americans and canada (i think) dont use this classification, most other countries do. soft drugs tends to mean hash, pot, salvia, mushrooms, peyote, and such. usually natural drugs. hard drugs are anything else. is vague, but then again, the laws in europe regarding drugs generally are. anywho, mushrooms certainly are considered a soft drug, maybe because they are natural. i went to copenhagen, where soft drugs are sold openly in the streets. i asked some random guy if they had acid, and he said hard drugs were not sold openly like soft drugs are
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Re: LSD and mushrooms....soft drugs?!!!!!!! please read... [Re: Dilauded]
#1235109 - 01/20/03 07:58 PM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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"sweat bullets" "jaw reverberates"
Your experience doesn't mean, 'thats the way it is'. I sure as hell don't sweat bullets. My jaw sure as hell doesn't reverberate. I feel very mellow and shit. But yes, millions of thoughts run through my head too.
Why do people insist on classifying drugs as soft or hard? I just don't understand. Is that so you know which one is more dangerous or something? So, mushrooms are considered soft to you? So you feel because it's soft, it's better/safer to do shrooms than say, acid? Think about it. Cause that is totally not true. There is no need to classify drugs as 'hard' or 'soft'. Even if there was justification for doing so, WHY?
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Re: LSD and mushrooms....soft drugs?!!!!!!! please read... [Re: Dilauded]
#1235256 - 01/20/03 11:46 PM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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LSD softer than shrooms?!LOL
eat 2-3g of pan cyans and eat 2-3 hits of LSD another day. then tell me which trip was much harder than the other
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 Re: LSD and mushrooms....soft drugs?!!!!!!! please read... [Re: ShRo_0My]
#1235263 - 01/21/03 12:00 AM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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Interesting question...
On the one hand, I think of LSD as hard because it can really be a mind fuck, but on the other hand, I don't think of it as being as hard as heroin, as it usually won't fuck up your whole life...
However, I have known many long term marijuana users, who's lives were basically fucked because they lacked motivation and clarity of thought for years due to chronic use...
Is alcohol a hard drug because it destroys some people's lives, or is it a soft drug because it is legal, and an important part of our corporate economy?
The bottom line is, I don?t know! I guess any drug is as hard or soft as you make it.
Every person is different, and every person may find a particular drug to be a nice recreation, or a life destroying hell, so it would seem to be highly-subjective, and therefor the whole classification system of "hard" and "soft" would seem to be kinda silly? 
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Re: LSD and mushrooms....soft drugs?!!!!!!! please read... [Re: Hamurabi]
#1235334 - 01/21/03 01:51 AM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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LSD softer than shrooms?!LOL
eat 2-3g of pan cyans and eat 2-3 hits of LSD another day.
not a fair comparison, imho. imho, it's more important to compare the alteration created by each. i have eaten lots of lsd over the last 25+ years and i have never had such an altering experience as i have on a large dose of shrooms. better to compare 10 grams of shrooms to 10 hits of lsd. i would certainly feel much less bamboozled by the 10 hits of lsd.
imho if we have to classify hard vs. soft drugs, i would use toxicity as the primary discerning factor. the more likely it is to kill you in the short term or long term, the "harder" it is.
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Re: LSD and mushrooms....soft drugs?!!!!!!! please read... [Re: Bilge]
#1235376 - 01/21/03 02:17 AM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think the Dutch government has made the first (official) distinction between soft and hard drugs. Hard drugs are drugs which pose an unacceptable hazard to health.
Soft drugs are drugs which constitute a far less serious hazard(in the opinion of the Dutch government)
They made this distinction because it was thought that it would keep the young people from getting into the crimescene and harddrugs.
LSD is illegal BTW... shrooms aren't....
This is not my opinion.. just some information
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Hamurabi
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Re: LSD and mushrooms....soft drugs?!!!!!!! please read... [Re: Bilge]
#1235392 - 01/21/03 02:29 AM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bilge you are right,it was my fault to compare "2-3g copes with 2-3 hits of lsd". but generally i believe shrooms are much harder than lsd:_)
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Re: LSD and mushrooms....soft drugs?!!!!!!! please read... [Re: Hamurabi]
#1235543 - 01/21/03 03:45 AM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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The body load is certainly heavier on shrooms than acid. But then, it's all in the mind anyway.
The distinctions between "hard drugs" and "soft drugs" are built upon prejudice.
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Edited by leafblowerz (01/21/03 03:47 AM)
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Re: LSD and mushrooms....soft drugs?!!!!!!! please read... [Re: Papaver]
#1235552 - 01/21/03 03:50 AM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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Every person is different, and every person may find a particular drug to be a nice recreation, or a life destroying hell, so it would seem to be highly-subjective, and therefor the whole classification system of "hard" and "soft" would seem to be kinda silly?
i agree completely papavar  mabye hard and soft drug use would be more apropriate?
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Re: LSD and mushrooms....soft drugs?!!!!!!! please read... [Re: leafblowerz]
#1235574 - 01/21/03 04:04 AM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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Exactly. It's all in your mind. Shrooms are nothing to me. Yeah, they screw me up real good mentally, but there's never a doubt in my mind as to wether or not I can handle it. So, if I had to, I would say it's soft. But then, I would have to say the same about every drug. Classification is stupid. Tell people what the drug does and what it feels like, then let them decide if they can handle it or not. Don't try to classify them. The only kind of classification system I like is the numbers that represent trip levels. Those come in handy for reference. Some trips are a little hard to explain.....
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Re: LSD and mushrooms....soft drugs?!!!!!!! please read... [Re: ShRo_0My]
#1235916 - 01/21/03 06:21 AM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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My definition of "hard" drug as opposed to "soft" drug. A hard drug...
1. Must be addictive and harmful to the body
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2. Accidental overdose must be a very real possibility.
By this definition, LSD and Mushrooms are not hard drugs. They are not addictive, reletively harmless, and nearly impossible to OD on. The fact that they can put the user into intense altered states of awareness is not enough alone for me to consider them hard drugs.
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Re: LSD and mushrooms....soft drugs?!!!!!!! please read... [Re: Papaver]
#1236057 - 01/21/03 07:51 AM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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up with papaver
I agree. Especially with what you said about marijuana....I know from experience...and I'm slowly pulling myself out of it.
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Re: LSD and mushrooms....soft drugs?!!!!!!! please read... [Re: juicemonkey]
#1236444 - 01/21/03 09:54 AM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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I really wish you guys would be debating this on overgrow...that what it was meant for!!!!!  
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 Re: LSD and mushrooms....soft drugs?!!!!!!! please read... [Re: ShRo_0My]
#1236554 - 01/21/03 10:14 AM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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LoLz!
Ok, I am a member, maybe I'll make something about this debate my first post over there... 
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Re: LSD and mushrooms....soft drugs?!!!!!!! please read... [Re: ]
#1236863 - 01/21/03 12:24 PM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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My definition of "hard" drug as opposed to "soft" drug. A hard drug...
1. Must be addictive and harmful to the body
OR
2. Accidental overdose must be a very real possibility.
By this definition, LSD and Mushrooms are not hard drugs. They are not addictive, reletively harmless, and nearly impossible to OD on. The fact that they can put the user into intense altered states of awareness is not enough alone for me to consider them hard drugs.
Good definition.
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Re: LSD and mushrooms....soft drugs?!!!!!!! please read... [Re: KOPELANDIAA]
#1237509 - 01/21/03 03:28 PM (22 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thats were trip set and setting comes into play, tripping in an emergency situation aint smart dude, thats why people on the bomb sqaud dont trip on shrooms while dis-arming a kilo of c-4
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#23930917 - 12/15/16 09:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wow reading this post was great. I guess people really were more uneducated back then..
Fucking retards don't even know the difference between hard and soft drugs 
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Re: LSD and mushrooms....soft drugs?!!!!!!! please read... [Re: ShRo_0My]
#26986702 - 10/15/20 09:42 AM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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My personal definition of "hard drugs" are drugs that are very hard and damaging to the mind and body. Like Heroin, Meth, Crack, etc. Soft drugs are drugs that have minimal damage or non like Caffine, alcohol in lower to moderate doses, stuff like that.
Now Things like Cannabis, LSD, Mushrooms, DMT, Salvia, Peyote, etc. I classify as powerful spiritual tools/ medicine that should never be taken lightly. I mean with cannabis you can get away with taking it lightly, but not the rest. They should always be represented as something that should be respected and to be taken seriously and not look at it as just some drug.
Him Classifying it as a soft drug can be misleading but there will always be misinformation. People should do their own reseach and not jump into things ignorantly...or after just reading one little article on some website. If they read that website and dont do more research. Thats on them. They will learn the hard way and sometimes thats good for people. Freedom means some people will end up getting hurt, dead, misled, and lied too. I wouldt worry about it to much.
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Papaver said:
Interesting question...
On the one hand, I think of LSD as hard because it can really be a mind fuck, but on the other hand, I don't think of it as being as hard as heroin, as it usually won't fuck up your whole life...
However, I have known many long term marijuana users, who's lives were basically fucked because they lacked motivation and clarity of thought for years due to chronic use...
Is alcohol a hard drug because it destroys some people's lives, or is it a soft drug because it is legal, and an important part of our corporate economy?
The bottom line is, I don?t know! I guess any drug is as hard or soft as you make it.
Every person is different, and every person may find a particular drug to be a nice recreation, or a life destroying hell, so it would seem to be highly-subjective, and therefor the whole classification system of "hard" and "soft" would seem to be kinda silly?
I think thats a cop out to blame the chronic use of cannabis to their downfall. Plants dont force you to lack motivation. Someone that really wants to stay motivated will..They will make choices to smoke less if they see its making it hard to stay motivated. Sounds like possible depression, hopelessness, or some other rooted issues was the downfall..and cannabis was abused because of it. I know from personal experience. I used to be like that years ago. I had to quit smoking cannabis for almost a couple years and grow. Now my use is mostly due to physical pain, and spiritual use. Once in a while recreational, but I quit using it during the day because I know it makes it harder for me to want to get things done.
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Re: LSD and mushrooms....soft drugs?!!!!!!! please read... [Re: CoryInJapan]
#26987053 - 10/15/20 01:06 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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I love this! Still relevant.
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Re: LSD and mushrooms....soft drugs?!!!!!!! please read... [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#26987164 - 10/15/20 02:16 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think what classifies a drug as hard or soft is in its addictive potential. Hard drugs are super addictive like heroin, cocaine, meth, etc. Soft drugs are drugs with lesser addictive potential like marijuana, psychedelics, etc. I don't think it has anything to do with the actual physical effects of the drugs.
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Re: LSD and mushrooms....soft drugs?!!!!!!! please read... [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
#26987911 - 10/16/20 03:24 AM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hard and soft are terms that straights use because they think in simlistic black and white since they have no experience. They would only make sense if applied to addictive and non-addictive, so hard would include alcohol, nicotine, coffee, heroin, morphine. Soft would be everything else. But it's a nonsensical classification, one person's delight is another's nightmare. Horses for courses.
Experimentation is about finding what you like and what's your dosage and tolerance. Some think LSD is 'hard' to handle, but others microdose and go to work in the office. Some try cannabis, and lunch out for hours, others do a chillum while rock climbing.
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Re: LSD and mushrooms....soft drugs?!!!!!!! please read... [Re: SixtiesSurvivor]
#26987954 - 10/16/20 05:22 AM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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alcohol is definitely a hard drug for me. as is tobacco. up there with meth and crack
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Re: LSD and mushrooms....soft drugs?!!!!!!! please read... [Re: epilectric]
#26988672 - 10/16/20 03:17 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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Cocaine is a soft drug according to crack users
Because they literally refer to it as "soft"
*ba dum tss*
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Re: LSD and mushrooms....soft drugs?!!!!!!! please read... [Re: skOsH]
#26989249 - 10/16/20 10:16 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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skOsH said:
Cocaine is a soft drug according to crack users
Because they literally refer to it as "soft"
*ba dum tss*
Alcohol and tobacco are definitely hard drugs. I could see how crack could be viewed as more hard than cocaine but usually people who smoke crack usually started with cocaine. It's cocaine that will sweep you by surprise and give you an addiction. If you are smoking crack well then you are probably already an addict.
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