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Vvellum
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embrace the swastika
#3582520 - 01/05/05 12:52 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: embrace the swastika [Re: Vvellum]
#3582628 - 01/05/05 01:30 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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The gentle swastika tattoo in the bme link is really nice... I was thinking of picking that book up...
I think what has become of the swastika is horrible... I was thinking about working one into a tattoo I'm working on for my arm... I think that what has become of it doesn't need to be. People need to inform and reform... just like marijuana laws, it's all about proper informing so you can reform... My mother and I disagree on this subject entirely. I say that the true meaning of the Swastika needs to be heard and I'd be willing to mark myself with one. Not only for my own personal pleasure but also as a psa. She feels that the symbol embodies all of the horrors of the world wars and nothing more... on a side note her boyfriend is Jewish and lost family in the Holocaust. heh She once told me she would write me out of her will if I got one tattooed on me anywhere.
Peace for now...
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right on.
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Re: embrace the swastika [Re: Vvellum]
#3583888 - 01/05/05 11:56 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: embrace the swastika [Re: Vvellum]
#3584628 - 01/05/05 03:11 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's sad that symbols that have such beautiful meanings are turned into something horrible. Stupid Nazis.
The pentacle is a another one that has beautiful meaning of beauty and perfection but now a lot of people thinks it is tied with devil worship.
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i have a cousin whos in one of those "neo-nazi" movements. a bunch of hillbillys who hate everyone
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Sieg heil.
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Re: embrace the swastika [Re: Vvellum]
#3585630 - 01/05/05 06:41 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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I say forget the swastika. It's an awesome looking symbol and it used to mean something good, but there's no way you can reverse the damage that's been done to it. The swastika now = Nazi Germany. There's nothing you can do about that now. I say make a new symbol and go with that.
I tried to tell this to my black friend. He bought a rebel flag headband a while back and started wearing it around town saying that he wanted to reverse it's meaning. I told him that there's no way to reverse the meaning unless he does something with it that's BIG, which he won't. The rebel flag = slavery, and it will always mean that just the same as the swastika.
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Re: embrace the swastika [Re: Learyfan]
#3585670 - 01/05/05 06:54 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Indeed, it's much too late for that symbol to be associated with anything but hate.
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Re: embrace the swastika [Re: Ripple]
#3585685 - 01/05/05 06:59 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Half my family is Jewish and I disagree. Just because hitler stole it doesnt meen its bad. If some mass-murdering fuck head got caught covered in mushrooms and pot leaves, would you stop enjoying them as symbols of your expanded mind sets? I dont think so. Most people just need to be educated on the roots of the symbol and it can be re-introduced as a positive symbol... not that I feel it should be plopped up all over the place. Hitler painted landscapes too, it doesnt make the German country side any less beautiful I assure you
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Re: embrace the swastika [Re: beejay]
#3585695 - 01/05/05 07:01 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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I understand what your saying but I really don't see it happening.
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Re: embrace the swastika [Re: Vvellum]
#3585696 - 01/05/05 07:01 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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not to nit pick but isnt teh old good luck symbol the indians used reverse of teh nazi look alike?
it is in north american indian art anyway.
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Re: embrace the swastika [Re: kadakuda]
#3585719 - 01/05/05 07:06 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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When I see swastikas all over Mexico, even though it stands for something completely different there, it still suprises me first and even makes me sad. Because of its history it gives off a very negative vibe.
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Re: embrace the swastika [Re: Learyfan]
#3585805 - 01/05/05 07:30 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Learyfan said:The rebel flag = slavery, and it will always mean that just the same as the swastika.
How delightfully uninformed.
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Re: embrace the swastika [Re: pantsboy]
#3585806 - 01/05/05 07:30 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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not to them...
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Re: embrace the swastika [Re: nonoman]
#3585988 - 01/05/05 08:15 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
nonoman said:
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Learyfan said:The rebel flag = slavery, and it will always mean that just the same as the swastika.
How delightfully uninformed.
Was the rebel flag not the flag of the states who fought and died to keep black people in slavery? Maybe i'm thinking of someone else.
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Re: embrace the swastika [Re: Learyfan]
#3586041 - 01/05/05 08:24 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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i've heard this stuff before, but never really researched it
and i agree there needs to be a change in the view of the swastika
the pic of the swastika in the church floor is pretty cool looking
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Re: embrace the swastika [Re: Vvellum]
#3586062 - 01/05/05 08:29 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Right-Click, Save As:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/files/05-01/498194535-swastikagoddess2.jpg
There used to be a very enlightening and informative website up at swastika.com. Unfortunately the page no longer exists, however I was lucky enough to save most of the pages onto my hard disk before the site went down. The above images constitute one of the pages describing the swastika. If anyone is interested I can upload some more material from the site.
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Quote:
ShroomOmatic said: i have a cousin whos in one of those "neo-nazi" movements. a bunch of hillbillys who hate everyone
kill him, seriously
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