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making a casing with hepa
    #3568744 - 01/01/05 08:12 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

i read that it is good to work in the wind of a hepa. i want to do a rye casing with peat/verm....any suggestions?


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Re: making a casing with hepa [Re: qwon]
    #3568859 - 01/01/05 09:20 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)



I've use a hepa with a 90qt. box. Don't know if you can see inside the box? Getting ready to make spore syringes.


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Re: making a casing with hepa [Re: KaptKid]
    #3568977 - 01/01/05 10:05 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Get a LARGE clear case like above... possibly taller. Flip it upside-down and cut a 3" hole in the top. Use some cheap flexable laundry hose twisted inside the hole, possibly add a cloth over the hose before you twist the hose into the hole, (That will add a little resistance, and help steady the air-flow.) Hook the other end onto the grill of your hepa, near the center. (Bent coat-hangers work great for this.)

Now, when you want to work in it, just slide your hands inside the "Turtle Shell" (Upside-down) container. Let it rest on your arms, or prop it up with a book. That is the cheapest way to do it, that I have seen.

If you don't want to cut a hole, just stuff the pipe inside. Use it as the thing that props it open, between your arms. Just make sure it is aimed up towards the top, and extends about half way up towards the top.

Don't forget to run it for about 10-30 min. before you use it. That will ensure that the air inside is only filtered air.

I am getting ready to flip all my fruiting chambers upside down, for better light and easy fruit harvesting... I hate trying to reach inside a container that I can't see through.


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Re: making a casing with hepa [Re: LaughingJim]
    #3569170 - 01/01/05 11:29 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

nice setups.... thx for the responses...
i'm strapped for space and dont think the gf could keep me anylonger if i got yet 'anotherrr' tub.... but this is what i will do in the future..thx for the tips..


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Re: making a casing with hepa [Re: qwon]
    #3569892 - 01/02/05 03:39 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Make sure its a TRUE HEPA too..not just 99.9%, 99.97%....otherwise you'll be doing more harm then good working in the airflow of the HEPA and will be better just shutting off all airflow (AC, fans ect).

Casing is the least of the times when a glovebox or flowhood is needed IME casing can be done just about anywhere as long as simple cleanliness procedures are followed.


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Re: making a casing with hepa [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3569916 - 01/02/05 03:46 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

scat, not sure what you mean by 'true hepa' - i actually bought this one: http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.g...3A14503%3A52229 :thumbup:


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Re: making a casing with hepa [Re: qwon]
    #3569989 - 01/02/05 04:18 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

"This purification system is quiet and provides 99.97 percent filtration."

TRUE HEPA.

Some "HEPA products" work on a 99% or 99.9% filtration. It may not seem like much but when your talking microns its all the difference in the world and you need 99.97% or better or your better with a no pressure glovebox then a regular glovebox.

With that HEPA you can just turn it on its side and work on top of it and do whatever work you want. The upflow of filtered air won't allow any contams to fall on whatever your doing.


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How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: making a casing with hepa [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3570079 - 01/02/05 05:03 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

LOL....some that CLAIM to be a HEPA....... operate at 95%.... which is worthless.

Other cheaper portables sometimes have 99.97 filter ratings, but the filter is cardboard cased & does not fit in the assembly TIGHT to any thick rubber backing (front & back - or top to bottom). Which leaves 1/16th (or more) of an inch space for UNFILTERED air to pass through (again worthless - unless you TAPE it in).

Shop around hard & eyeball any HEPA that interests you, to insure it is up to snuff.

Once you have the SPACE & PRIVACY..... build a 99.97 Hepa filtered laminar flowhood. My foaf's is big enough to hold a AA 941, impulse sealer & still have work area left inside it.



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Re: making a casing with hepa [Re: agar]
    #3595255 - 01/07/05 09:01 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Score I picked up a huge hepa honeywell unit used today for 60 bucks, that does 99.97%. The thing is circular but I am sure I will be able to work something out. You would think that if you ran a hepa unit in a room for long enough it would achieve the same affect as the glove box? I could easily set the unit on high, and then work right next to it as this thing really blows, lol. I suppose I could just make a box that has an enterance on the top side so it blows air in, but man I would love to just use a room for the freedom. I was thinking of turning my closet into a clean room instead. I could just seal the room, or seal a small area of the room with plastic or something that holds, and place myself, a chair, hepa filter, table and supplies, and sit in the small room for 20-30 minutes reading then goto work. I guess it would be slightly more expensive to make cover yourself in a plastic box, and you would have to be concerned with air coming in and going out I guess since your going to need fresh o2 or you would pass out, lol.


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Re: making a casing with hepa [Re: Fluxburn]
    #3595276 - 01/07/05 09:07 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

try cleaning all the surfaces in the room you're working with with bleach/alcohol and running the hepa in there for an hour. you'll cut down contams quite a bit, but you still need a glove box/flowhood for agar/g2g.


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Re: making a casing with hepa [Re: qwon]
    #3595336 - 01/07/05 09:22 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Well the design I was thinking of, was the room that is sealed as well has an flow hood, which brings in fresh o2 to breath as well while another fan is established on the ground to remove used air and excess Co2. What about this guy above whom seems to be doing the same thing I am thinking without the flow food and seems to have success. I plan on doing agar soon and in readings of agar cultures it seems success has been achieved by just wiping down the surface area with bleach and having no moving air, or as minimal as possible. Of course bleaching a room, using a hepa flow hood would seem to me to be necessary. I will take a picture once I am done with my setup, thanks for helping me sort it out inside my head here guys. I really love message boards, people help people it works so well.


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