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Re: Rye Rubbermaids Casings and Huimidification [Re: monkey_bat]
    #547372 - 02/11/02 03:29 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

The bubbler probably wont provide enough air exchange for the casings, you would have to fan manually a couple times a day.
If you are looking for a maintenance free setup, cool mist is the way to go definetely. Or you could get another fish tank bubbler, two of those should do the trick.

You shouldn't need to heat the terrarium, room temperature is fine. I've seen them fruit easily in the low 60s, but 70-75 F is ideal.

Just remember... casings need 95% humidity when you first uncover them, and when they start pinning they need less, 87-92%. You can do this with a combination of perlite and fish tank bubbler(s), or a cool mist.
The cool mist you can run 24/7 and that will keep humidity close to 98% depending on how well the terrarium is sealed. You can get a timer and play around with it to get the humidity pumping at intervals to keep it at 87-92 for pinning.
Air exchange is vitally important for casings. I dont even trust my humidifier and I still fan manually once or twice a day. But then again I have a 4 shelf.. 6 foot tall terrarium.
The humidifier hooked into a tote like that will provide more than enough air exchange and humidity. You will likely only need to open it to harvest and maybe to mist.

But the idea of a computer fan will work...
That will create air circulation in your terrarium which is also important.

You just need to keep the humidity up and have good air exchange and you will be great.


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Re: Rye Rubbermaids Casings and Huimidification [Re: ]
    #547396 - 02/11/02 03:45 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks man....

One more thing... the mycelium turned blue when I broke it up and now a bunch of it is blue in the casing (the thing is clear... I gotta tape the bottom tomorrow.) Is this ok? I hope so. I'm probably just paranoid. It's just bluing from handling and breaking up all the clumps... RIGHT????


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Re: Rye Rubbermaids Casings and Huimidification [Re: monkey_bat]
    #547404 - 02/11/02 03:49 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah its fine. It stains blue when handled, nothing to worry about...that's just the psilocin reacting to oxygen



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Re: Rye Rubbermaids Casings and Huimidification [Re: ]
    #548637 - 02/12/02 08:26 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Ok... I moved the whole setup to a large closet area so it will be less conspicuous.

The hygrometer fixed itself overnight.... it works fine now.

I looked at all 4 jars that didnt grow right... 2 of them had some slight signs of mycelium left... I opened them and it looks like the polyfil is all clogged up with Rye Starch Goo. One of them had more mycelium at one time and I popped the cap off, pulled out the polyfil, cleaned the cap, placed new polyfil in the hole... and put the cap back on. No sterile enviroment really... just clean hands and some lysol and soap. Today the jar is growing nicely... OBVIOUS growth in 24 hours... I Imagine if it doesnt contam it will go pretty fast. I didnt do the other 3 jars... I dont have room in the incubator at the moment.

The Humidity in the grow chamber is 98% according to the hygrometer left in over night. Perhaps once the casings are inside that will change. I need to get the other heater going soon...

Thats about it


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Re: Rye Rubbermaids Casings and Huimidification [Re: ]
    #549444 - 02/12/02 11:38 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Would that be a quarter cup of limestone (soil buffer) or hydrated lime (wards off conatams)?? Im still trying to get a perfect mesurment for hydrated lime for the 50/50 plus tek. Any idea how much oyster shell in that 20cups of casing?
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Re: Rye Rubbermaids Casings and Huimidification [Re: Northernsoul]
    #549705 - 02/13/02 07:18 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

yeah.. less than a quarter is what I used ... I was worried about over-doing it

I didnt use any oyster shell... I couldnt find it

The casings have spots of mycelium growing on them... I need to place some casing soil over top of the spots.
The bottoms of the containers (which are clear) show that the mycleium has reformed into a nice covering of white. I'm pleased.
I'm going to haveto buy another heater today or tomorrow to place into the other terrerium... I cant find a container big enough for the 150W heater... probably just as well.. I think it would generate too much heat.
I will need to transplant the casings to the humidity chamber soon... they are growing very fast... and I think perhaps I didnt case them thick enough.

I have some casing mix in the fridge... If I pop it into the microwave for a couple of minutes can I use it? Do I need to make a new batch? I think this stuff with the microwave should be cool... just to patch on the mycelium to create even layers.


The salvaged jar is taking off... very fast overnight colonization... I think it will be fine and will be ready in about 8 days or less.

Thats my update.


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Re: Rye Rubbermaids Casings and Huimidification [Re: monkey_bat]
    #551002 - 02/14/02 09:38 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Rye Rubbermaids Casings and Huimidification [Re: monkey_bat]
    #552072 - 02/15/02 02:27 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

The casings are showing agreesive growth. I see lots of mycelium in very white bubbled up spots... but not a lot of overall coverage... I am going to patch case them tomorrow on my day off.

A few grains stuck to the side above the casing and they are really neat looking and growing lots of white fuzzy... but are they bad? should I get rid of them? I imagine so.. so I will just scrape them off tomorrow.

My fruiting chamber has almost no condensation on the sides... but the radio shack thing reads 98%. Is this possible? It has a bubbler... but thats it. I was thinking I would need some pearlite just for saftey and because there is no condensation I doubt the reading of 98%. The temp is currently about 71-73 F at any point in time.

I was wondering... can I place the casings directly into the fruiting chamber once they are ready? I hope thats the case... because if so the temps I am getting should be fine for fruiting and I wont need a heater. Otherwise I might need a heater and I worry about excessive humidity due to all the evaporation... plus I dont want to spend $$.

Otherwise all is well... I see some whispier white stuff... but it seems to always form into more firm white cumps that bubble up into fuzzy cottonball mycelium that smells like mushies. SO... I doubt it is cobweb. I hope.

All seems to be going well... someone give me some advice on this no condensation and hygrometer thing... is my radio shack thing no good?


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Re: Rye Rubbermaids Casings and Huimidification [Re: monkey_bat]
    #552117 - 02/15/02 03:18 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

You can have 98% humidity and no condensation on the walls. When you put the casings in you will probably not need any additional humidification other than the bubbler you are currently using and fanning and misting on a daily basis.


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Re: Rye Rubbermaids Casings and Huimidification [Re: ]
    #552119 - 02/15/02 03:20 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Condensation usually happens when the tempurature inside and outside a object is different. Since most times this is not the case you wont see condensation with some humidification teks. I usually give my terrariums some "fake" condensation. I spray the walls with a good misty spray bottle. If the "fake" condensation dissappears quickly (24 hours) you may have a humidity problem.


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