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So shrooms stop producing the drug when the viel breaks, right?
    #3348943 - 11/11/04 11:15 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I just want to make sure, before I harvest.


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Re: So shrooms stop producing the drug when the viel breaks, right? [Re: thenewuser]
    #3348957 - 11/11/04 11:17 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

no

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Re: So shrooms stop producing the drug when the viel breaks, right? [Re: thenewuser]
    #3348958 - 11/11/04 11:18 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Thats what "they" say.


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Re: So shrooms stop producing the drug when the viel breaks, right? [Re: KaptKid]
    #3348959 - 11/11/04 11:18 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I'm confused.


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Re: So shrooms stop producing the drug when the viel breaks, right? [Re: thenewuser]
    #3348983 - 11/11/04 11:22 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I believe that I read they loose potency after the veil breakage.
But as far as total stopping the production of psyl I dunno abaout that 1!!!!! :mushroom2: :confused:


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Re: So shrooms stop producing the drug when the viel breaks, right? [Re: JAMIEK]
    #3348999 - 11/11/04 11:26 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

:confused: We need an expert.


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Re: So shrooms stop producing the drug when the viel breaks, right? [Re: JAMIEK]
    #3349002 - 11/11/04 11:26 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I don't think their have been any studies on this, so it's just personal opinion. A lot people ask this and it never gets answered, because noone can back up what they say.


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Re: So shrooms stop producing the drug when the viel breaks, right? [Re: JAMIEK]
    #3349006 - 11/11/04 11:27 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

From the majority of what I have read, after the veil breaks the production of psylocin and psylosybin (sp?) "slows down" after the veil breaks and the mushroom starts dropping spores. At this point in the life cycle it uses more resources to take on mass rather than produce these chemicals. I haven't seen any actual scientific research on this anywhere but it seems to be the popular theory.


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Re: So shrooms stop producing the drug when the viel breaks, right? [Re: recalcitrant]
    #3349008 - 11/11/04 11:28 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

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no

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From what I read I would have to disagree but I also think it would be hard to tell the differance just by eating them.I've had just as good of trips from caps I made spore prints from.


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Re: So shrooms stop producing the drug when the viel breaks, right? [Re: KaptKid]
    #3349012 - 11/11/04 11:29 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

hrm so should I let these all grow up, or cutem down now? They are for personal use, not for sale.


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Re: So shrooms stop producing the drug when the viel breaks, right? [Re: KaptKid]
    #3349014 - 11/11/04 11:29 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

It slows down but it doesn't stop until you pick them, that's when they gradually stop. Common sense? maybe not. But it's all an intersting Theory.


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Re: So shrooms stop producing the drug when the viel breaks, right? [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3349017 - 11/11/04 11:31 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Heh. So it's sort of a catch 22 if your trying to messure out a dose.


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Re: So shrooms stop producing the drug when the viel breaks, right? [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3349019 - 11/11/04 11:31 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I'd say you should harvest within 24 hrs after 90% of them have dropped thier veils. Just my opinion though.


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Re: So shrooms stop producing the drug when the viel breaks, right? [Re: 13eetleJuice]
    #3349032 - 11/11/04 11:33 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah beetlejuice, i agree, especailly on cakes, the 2nd flush needs room ya know!..well...casings too of course....


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Re: So shrooms stop producing the drug when the viel breaks, right? [Re: thenewuser]
    #3349040 - 11/11/04 11:34 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

measure out a dose?

potency varies from species.
potency varies from substrate.
potency varies from flushes.
potency varies from mushrooms.

As Aesop would say:

the moral of this story is "potency varies."


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Re: So shrooms stop producing the drug when the viel breaks, right? [Re: recalcitrant]
    #3349057 - 11/11/04 11:36 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Well a dose of 1/8 small-right after the viel breaks shrooms would be stronger than 1/8 of full grown ones.

Yes same strain and all of that.

Also wouldn't the flushed be bigger if you cut them then, becuase it would eat up less of the cake producing shroom matter?

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Re: So shrooms stop producing the drug when the viel breaks, right? [Re: thenewuser]
    #3349090 - 11/11/04 11:41 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

thenewuser said:
Well a dose of 1/8 small-right after the viel breaks shrooms would be stronger than 1/8 of full grown ones.

Yes same strain and all of that.

Also wouldn't the flushed be bigger if you cut them then, becuase it would eat up less of the cake producing shroom matter?

Remeber I'm a newbie here :smile:





not always true but could be but you dont want the caps open to drop spores all over the rest of yoru caseing or cakes or what ever that will stop or slow the second flush i have had shrooms that were way over ripe and they were potant as fuck i have also seen some that were only like 1/2" tall closed caps that were just as potant the point is that a human mind isnt fine tuned enough  to tell the very very very little differance it would make


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Re: So shrooms stop producing the drug when the viel breaks, right? [Re: onetime]
    #3349098 - 11/11/04 11:43 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Ok so I'll letem grow!!!

Is there a time when you can tell they are going to drop spores?


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Re: So shrooms stop producing the drug when the viel breaks, right? [Re: thenewuser]
    #3349130 - 11/11/04 11:48 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

If the veil isn't there, then the gills are exposed and are capable of dropping spores, I think.

At least, I don't see any reason why not.

I like to let them grow until they are a bit more flat. Then they're a good size and I can eat them and trip out.


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Re: So shrooms stop producing the drug when the viel breaks, right? [Re: recalcitrant]
    #3349171 - 11/11/04 11:54 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

ok I will pluck them when the cap gets flat. :smile:


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