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Goodbye Government Tyranny, Hello Assault Rifle!
    #3145685 - 09/16/04 11:10 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/weapons/bcwa3f16m4.asp



Thank you President Bush, mine should be here next Friday.


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Re: Goodbye Government Tyranny, Hello Assault Rifle! [Re: retread]
    #3145695 - 09/16/04 11:11 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I have to say, this is one of the few things Bush has done which I applaud him for. Still not nearly good enough to win my vote, though.


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Re: Goodbye Government Tyranny, Hello Assault Rifle! [Re: silversoul7]
    #3145705 - 09/16/04 11:14 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Bush had nothing to do with it. The bill was enacted by Congress, Congress could have renewed it, they declined to do so. Bush can take no credit for it.

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Re: Goodbye Government Tyranny, Hello Assault Rifle! [Re: Phred]
    #3145711 - 09/16/04 11:15 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Good point.  Thank you, Congress! :cheers:


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Re: Goodbye Government Tyranny, Hello Assault Rifle! [Re: Phred]
    #3145735 - 09/16/04 11:21 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Cheers to Congress!


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Re: Goodbye Government Tyranny, Hello Assault Rifle! [Re: retread]
    #3145751 - 09/16/04 11:24 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

pffft .... congress made them illegal in the first place.  :rolleyes:


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Re: Goodbye Government Tyranny, Hello Assault Rifle! [Re: DieCommie]
    #3145756 - 09/16/04 11:25 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

True, but at least they saw the error of their ways.


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Re: Goodbye Government Tyranny, Hello Assault Rifle! [Re: silversoul7]
    #3145764 - 09/16/04 11:27 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Wasn't it just a Bill that expired in the first place.

Correct me if I'm wrong, this isn't my field.


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Re: Goodbye Government Tyranny, Hello Assault Rifle! [Re: Zahid]
    #3145779 - 09/16/04 11:29 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Ya, but they had the good sense not to renew it. I mean, don't get me wrong--they were assholes for passing it in the first place, but their decision not to renew it was a wise one. I hope they renew the Bill of Rights, which seems to have expired.


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Re: Goodbye Government Tyranny, Hello Assault Rifle! [Re: retread]
    #3145787 - 09/16/04 11:31 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

that's one ugly ass rifle.

is bushmaster even a good mfr?


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Re: Goodbye Government Tyranny, Hello Assault Rifle! [Re: silversoul7]
    #3145795 - 09/16/04 11:31 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

:wink:


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Re: Goodbye Government Tyranny, Hello Assault Rifle! [Re: afoaf]
    #3145832 - 09/16/04 11:38 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Bushmaster is an excellent manufacturer. A short barrel, a collapsable stock, thats watcha get.



Much cooler version.


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Re: Goodbye Government Tyranny, Hello Assault Rifle! [Re: retread]
    #3145859 - 09/16/04 11:42 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

that's all well and good, but doesn't cali still have an assault
weapons ban on the state level that keeps me from being
able to purchase this particular rifle as well as any clip that
holds more than 2 fucking bullets?


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Re: Goodbye Government Tyranny, Hello Assault Rifle! [Re: afoaf]
    #3145865 - 09/16/04 11:43 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I don't know, I don't live in California. If it does, move.


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Re: Goodbye Government Tyranny, Hello Assault Rifle! [Re: afoaf]
    #3146008 - 09/17/04 12:16 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

afoaf said:
that's all well and good, but doesn't cali still have an assault
weapons ban on the state level that keeps me from being
able to purchase this particular rifle as well as any clip that
holds more than 2 fucking bullets?



Yes, California still does have the moronic law. The maximum magazine size is limited to 10 rounds and the rifle cannot accept a detachable magazine. California's law is one reason for my picking the Browning BAR ShortTrac in my thread The Second Amendment vs. The Jihadists.


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Re: Goodbye Government Tyranny, Hello Assault Rifle! [Re: retread]
    #3146060 - 09/17/04 12:28 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

hah. i've been looking at that very rifle.

$1100... whew that's a lot of money to spend on a rifle.

i've got some friends in the military. they don't speak very fondly of the M-16 and its variants. they say that the .223 round is a little anemic and that the M-16 design just ain't robust enough.

i'd get one if i could afford it but when i do buy a rifle, it's gonna be a mini-30.

right now i've got only one firearm. it's a cheapo 20 gauge breach loader... cost about 80 bucks. it's alright for sporting clays, which is all i really need a gun for right now.

when i get my own place i'll probably start buying some arms. a decent pump 12 gauge, a 1911, and a mini-30 are on the list. i'd like an AK (SAR-1 i guess) too.

to the non-gun nuts... try going shooting sometime if you can. it's not bad. sporting clays are a lot of fun and long range rifle shooting is very... centering.. almost meditative. give it a shot.


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Re: Goodbye Government Tyranny, Hello Assault Rifle! [Re: ]
    #3146109 - 09/17/04 12:36 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Actually, meditation through prone smallbore shooting?  yeah that was a blast.  I learned to actually stop my heart from beating for 10-12 second intervals about once a minute or so.  That's 10 seconds with no breathing, no heartbeat, no blood moving..  about as close to dead as you can get and not be, well dead.  Very interesting :wink:


California sucks, no decent person should live there anyway, I'd say.  Same with New Jersey.  The feelie-good please-take-my-rights-away jerkbags seem to have flocked to both states in extreme numbers.


Remember folks, you can also buy pistols with mags that hold more than 10 now :laugh:  so if you're a 9mm fan, you can get a 16-rounder much cheaper whee.
the whole magazine-limit thing was the only real non-cosmetic part of the bill, and I'm pretty sure it was just a reach-around to manufactorers.  There was a deadline, you see, and anything made before that could still be sold..    but was sold at about three times normal price because of "limited supply".  blah.


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Re: Goodbye Government Tyranny, Hello Assault Rifle! [Re: retread]
    #3146230 - 09/17/04 12:59 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

While I'll support the right for one to have these rifiles, excuse me while i think anyone who does is an idiot (meant generally, not an attack on an individual)


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Re: Goodbye Government Tyranny, Hello Assault Rifle! [Re: DigitalDuality]
    #3146370 - 09/17/04 01:32 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

DigitalDuality said:
While I'll support the right for one to have these rifiles, excuse me while i think anyone who does is an idiot (meant generally, not an attack on an individual)


So you support rifle ownership, but think rifle owners are idiots?  :confused: Im confused  :wtf:


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Re: Goodbye Government Tyranny, Hello Assault Rifle! [Re: DieCommie]
    #3146413 - 09/17/04 01:44 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I don't think the government has a place to tell me what i can and cannot own. I think this falls under "arms" under our constituion, and have no problem with it's legalization.

But morally, i oppose personal ownership of weapons. I would consider myself a pacifist. I don't need the gov't to regulate my morality, just enforce laws and punish people for crimes.


Edited by DigitalDuality (09/17/04 01:49 AM)


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