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OfflineDarK_SavioR
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Non-Vermiculite Cake recipes?
    #312668 - 05/09/01 05:33 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Ok, I can't find ANY vermiculite at the stores and I'm assuming its due to that abastos contamination or whatever. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone had any other cake and casing recipes that don't require the vermiculite that they wouldn't mind posting or private messaging me. It'd be greatly appreciated. Also, is vermiculite in potting soil or top soil or anything like that? Cause I've got a couple dozen bags of top soil and potting soil in the garrage. Anyway, any help would be greatly appreciated.


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Re: Non-Vermiculite Cake recipes? [Re: DarK_SavioR]
    #312698 - 05/09/01 05:59 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

dude the same thing happend to me, and no one gave me any real shit to go with, if i were u i would go to ace hardware and get some shulzt vermiculite, trust me they have some.

first u get the money, then u get the Weemen!
Wee men? what the hell are u talking about!
i said woman; no u didn't man!

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Re: Non-Vermiculite Cake recipes? [Re: DarK_SavioR]
    #312927 - 05/09/01 01:21 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

try whole brown rice or birdseed.
preboil on low heat for 25-35 minutes (as if you are going to eat them), wash with cold water in colander, drain, put loosely into jars.
pressure cook for 45 minutes.

"9er tek":
http://www.shroomery.com/findorgrowthem.php?View=docs&doc=32

Workmans birdseed tehnique:
http://members.nbci.com/_XMCM/spore_works/GroDraft.html


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Re: Non-Vermiculite Cake recipes? [Re: DarK_SavioR]
    #312928 - 05/09/01 01:33 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Any of the grains will work fine as cakes. The PF recipe just solves a specific cultivation problem; sterilization without a pressure cooker. That's the *only* advantage of going the PF/BRF route.



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Re: Non-Vermiculite Cake recipes? [Re: egghead]
    #312929 - 05/09/01 01:38 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

If I don't have a pressure cooker may I still use the grain anyways and just boil the heck out of the jars, egghead?



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Re: Non-Vermiculite Cake recipes? [Re: firstaid]
    #312937 - 05/09/01 02:32 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

I've read here recently that you can boil grain and get some degree of sterility. No first-hand experience w/ that, though.

If your only problem is finding vermiculite, you would very likely have great success using coir as a substitute.



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Re: Non-Vermiculite Cake recipes? [Re: Larvae]
    #312938 - 05/09/01 02:39 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Will brown rice be alright for wood lovers like Pcyanescens and the like? I dont want fruits, just chunky arse mycellium colonies.
I cant get sawdust (especially hardwood) anywhere.
All Ive got right now is wheat bran, whole brown rice and lots of corrugated cardboard and newspaper.
Thanks,
jonnie


Edited by jonniedumbass on 05/09/01 07:42 AM.



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Re: Non-Vermiculite Cake recipes? [Re: jonniedumbass]
    #313000 - 05/09/01 06:36 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Awesome, thanks for the info guys ; ) Everyone else post keep posting what ya know, heh. Guess I'm gonna try the coir if I can't get ahold of any vermiculite soon. Also, I've got a lot of birdseed so I might try and concoct some sort of recipe or something later on. Hopefully everything will turn out fine.

Also, just a thaught with the grains and birdseeds and not being able to get them clean. I was thinking you could grind the uncooked grains/seeds in a small coffee grinder (cheap, you can pick em up at every *mart and coffee shops for $10 or so) and then go from there with other ways of sterilizing it. You might be able to bake the grinded up grain or something of the like. You might wanna check homebrew sites for ways of sterilizing grains. I've got some dark and pale grains laying around here, might experiment and see how well they work. Anyway, hopefully that'll spark a few ideas or help with sterilization of other whole grains.

[I think the sterilization of the whole grain when brewing the beer might be taken during the 1 hour steep when you're making your wart. If thats the case, I guess you can sterilize some grains effectively. But, keep in mind, that when you're using these grains they've been cracked (and usually partially grinded from the cracking) before they where thrown in the pot. Heh, maybe you can grind the grain/seed, boil it with a little bit of water for a while, then spread the past or whatever on some alluminum foil and dry it in the oven, after its dry you'd probably have to grind it up again but I'd assume that would make the "powder" sterile. Anyone with ideas or theories about that little process please post a reply.]

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Edited by DarK_SavioR on 05/09/01 12:04 PM.



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Re: Non-Vermiculite Cake recipes? [Re: DarK_SavioR]
    #313139 - 05/09/01 10:19 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Here's another question, could I use Whole Wheat Flour in place of the BRF? I'm guessing it would work, dunno if it'd be as good as the BRF though. Anyone ever used it?



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Re: Non-Vermiculite Cake recipes? [Re: DarK_SavioR]
    #313547 - 05/10/01 07:03 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

hey ... try this ... Barley works great(not the flattened kind) cook it like it says on the bag... also whole brown rice works great to like the 9er tek says.. if your short on verm try this... polyfil... put it in your jars as if it was verm(dont mix it with the rice just a top layer)... or you can go a different route and make a pinky's thickness hole in the top of a jar,stuff polyfil in it to make it tight and steam as usual... then inject thru that... peace

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Re: Non-Vermiculite Cake recipes? [Re: DarK_SavioR]
    #313634 - 05/10/01 08:47 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

yes, whole wheat flour works, and yes we need a cake connisuer to try coir as a replacement for vermiculite to cary out the pf tek. please post results if one decides to cary this out. peace
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Re: Non-Vermiculite Cake recipes? [Re: ALDER_057]
    #313663 - 05/10/01 09:36 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Well, thanks for the info on the whole wheat flour.  I'm gonna use the whole wheat flour definately and probably also buy some brf to compare it too.  Also, I found out that "bed-a-beast" is coir and can be found at most pet stores (petsmart for sure).  The bed-a-beast is just a brick of 'pure' coir and requires being hydrated before using.  I've got a couple geckos and I'll check for the bed-a-beast next time I go out for crickets, I'll try it out if they have the coir.  Also, I heard that adding a bit of lime powder with coir helps out a lot.  Anyway, I'll post any results from any different recipes I test out.  Thanx for the info, anyone else with info please post :smile:



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