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mycelium war!
    #308339 - 05/03/01 04:38 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: mycelium war! [Re: 40oz]
    #308405 - 05/03/01 07:11 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

no, they would probablyfruit together, like when you make a miltispore (using a spore syringe) culture. No war...

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Re: mycelium war! [Re: Elektrolurch]
    #308695 - 05/04/01 01:58 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: mycelium war! [Re: 40oz]
    #308765 - 05/04/01 03:38 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

yes, they would be edible.

No, they could not cross pollinate.

Best best would be to make a syringe w/ two different strains if you want to try to cross them. Let them germ together.



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Re: mycelium war! [Re: 40oz]
    #308792 - 05/04/01 04:09 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

Although I'm not quite sure why such a silly-ass question would be posted in this forum.... You would get fruits of both strains, most likely. They would NOT cross-pollenate=== Mushrooms do not use pollen!
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: dioze1]
    #308867 - 05/04/01 05:56 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

DUH!! i know shroomz dont cross polonate you ninny!!
you know what the hell i mean jack ass, just because i am not a mycologist and dont know what the "proper" terminology is for the question i am asking, so i thought i may relate my question in another way, sorry ASSHOLE for not being a GENIUS like yourself!!
and why this "silly-ass" post is in this topic, IS for a MYCOLOGIST...someone who know what the hell they are talking about....to answer my questions correctly without misinformation from misinformists like yourself!!!
...obviously your post didnt answer my post CORRECTLY,
or ANYTHING for that matter, but being a GENIUS, i wont blame you.
the only true dumbass in this post is YOURSELF!!!
Thanx ASSHOLE....you have taught me well.

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Re: mycelium war! [Re: 40oz]
    #308900 - 05/04/01 06:30 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

here, I'm not a genius, but I believe this is how it works. (why they won't make a hybrid) Once the spore creates a mycelial strand, that strand searches for another with the same genetic makeup.(i'm guessing) they do something and start creating a larger network, now looking for nutrients. But I'm sure they don't team up with something they don't recognize, just leave it alone. And they have no attack mechanisms, they only war they could have is over colonization. The one who colonizes fastest might make the other less fortunate.

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Re: mycelium war! [Re: Crasher]
    #309002 - 05/04/01 09:01 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

im no genius either but i was tought by a few people that really knew there shit and this is how it works. take pollen from two different strains and put them together ( not in a syringe ) ....just mix the powder pollen together like X and cola....now....bring about five hundred petri dishes out and a couple pounds of agar and get ready for 450 of those dishes to fruit some crappy ass mushrooms, and if you are lucky a hybrid of the two strains will actually fruit it just wont be potent or have good traits. if you are really lucky you will have one strain that will cross and be more potent than both strains put together. this is wat i was told but gave up on trying because of the money, time, and my impatience to it all. just grow some regular shrooms and have a blast!! but if you want to cultivate a new strain thats how to do it. good luck both ways. and hey, dont worry about the $1...i got good ol' Colt45 sittin warm in me belly and plenty of pollen to let the others know that its still yellow, just like my....oh fuck the correct WORD!!!!! anyways, later

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Re: mycelium war! [Re: 40oz]
    #309092 - 05/04/01 12:54 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

Watch the bad mouthing. I do not claim to be a Genius-but I do know more than you do about it. That is the reason I answered your post. You wanted an answer- that is the correct one.
If you want to know how to make a hybrid-then ask that question instead.
I did not misinform you. The answer I gave you IS the right one.
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: dioze1]
    #309308 - 05/04/01 09:30 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

did you search before you asked?

Your question in the beginning sounded like something that has been asked many times before
dioze's post sounded reasonable
guess you don't like your post being called silly...

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Re: mycelium war! [Re: Triple_3]
    #309339 - 05/04/01 10:03 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: mycelium war! [Re: 40oz]
    #309396 - 05/04/01 11:14 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

Yes they will compete for the substrate, moisture, etc.. Depending upon which strain is better suited to the exact environment, it will perform better. According to some research on Oyster mushrooms, some of the mycelium from the different strains might actually form clamp connections, and the better suited strain will use those connections to gather nutrients for itself, via the other strains mycelium. It has never been studied in P. cubensis though. The Borg philosophy of mushroom competition. To answer the question, they will compete.



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Re: mycelium war! [Re: ]
    #309403 - 05/04/01 11:27 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

Well said, Teonan.
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: ]
    #309408 - 05/04/01 11:41 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

at last someone here to answer my question without any bullshit!!
alright cool,
thanks dude!



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Re: mycelium war! [Re: 40oz]
    #309564 - 05/05/01 03:35 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

without any bullshit??

It took 5 posts for everyone to figure out what you were talking about, including yourself. Then you went and deleted the original question. Then someone answers the question while it's deleted from the thread and you say, "thanks for the no bs answer." Did I miss something?

I know you posted the subject, but would you mind telling me by what right you judge the responses? And/or why?

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Re: mycelium war! [Re: egghead]
    #309660 - 05/05/01 06:47 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

dont worry about it.


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Re: mycelium war! [Re: 40oz]
    #309664 - 05/05/01 06:57 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

You are a spunky(rude little BASTARD)!!
Be EASY with the people that are trying to help you out.
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: dioze1]
    #309694 - 05/05/01 08:04 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

all i asks was a simple fukn question, so fuckn shoot me if i used a different terminology to relate to the question, and all i get is qurky fukn rude comments from you antagonist basterds, im sick of you faggots, pointing out everything & anything you can find wrong, then you jump on the chance to
put in your$-0.02, like anyone wants to hear it. is it a fucking contest? ASSHOLE!!
Thats why i deleted the post, Im sick of hearing bullshit!
and if you didnt read, i was "easy" & i DID thank the person who gave me the correct answer. i wasnt rude to him/her.......
but sure as fuckn hell im going to be rude to smartasses
like yourself!....and you think you actually "help" out....


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Re: mycelium war! [Re: 40oz]
    #309784 - 05/05/01 02:02 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

So are you saying that you get to choose which answer is correct because you posted the subject?

Dude, there's no reason to suffer through an inadequacy complex or whatever. We're all just BSing here. Sounds like some sort of "ignore" feature would make everyone happy.

ps. That pic is great isn't it? I'm glad I gnabbed it from DD before it went down.


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Re: mycelium war! [Re: egghead]
    #309793 - 05/05/01 02:26 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

hey egghead,
sorry for the b.s, if i didnt delete the original post you would understand and not be confused about this whole fuckn thread.
and thats cool that you remain passive.....no i dont have an inadequacy complex...lol...just lack the context...
k...about the whole choosing who is correct deal....
i was looking for a positive confirmation on the original question from some one who knows what they are talking about, and i get this sarcastic jack-ass pointing out a small detial (terminology), here it is:
from:dioze1
Although I'm not quite sure why such a silly-ass question would be posted in this forum.... You would get fruits of both strains, most likely. They would NOT cross-pollenate=== Mushrooms do not use pollen!
Dioze1

no shit!! i knew that, who doesnt?..he just had to be a smart-ass!

then some one else posts & here that is:
from: teonan
Yes they will compete for the substrate, moisture, etc.. Depending upon which strain is better suited to the exact environment, it will perform better. According to some research on Oyster mushrooms, some of the mycelium from the different strains might actually form clamp connections, and the better suited strain will use those connections to gather nutrients for itself, via the other strains mycelium. It has never been studied in P. cubensis though. The Borg philosophy of mushroom competition. To answer the question, they will compete.

now you tell me which answer is worth hearing?

from dioze1 point of few....they will SHARE the casing happily...or "MOST LIKELY"...

then read teonans post....
who do you think is correct???

so once again, sorry egghead for jumping down your throat,
i was just pissed cuz lately these threads have become a shit throwing contest, and thats why i deleted my posts...so i can stay clear of the shit.
when that didnt work.... i started throwing shit back...




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