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 mycelium war! 
#308339 - 05/03/01 07:38 AM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: 40oz]
#308405 - 05/03/01 10:11 AM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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no, they would probablyfruit together, like when you make a miltispore (using a spore syringe) culture. No war...
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: 40oz]
#308765 - 05/03/01 06:38 PM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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yes, they would be edible.
No, they could not cross pollinate.
Best best would be to make a syringe w/ two different strains if you want to try to cross them. Let them germ together.
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: 40oz]
#308792 - 05/03/01 07:09 PM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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Although I'm not quite sure why such a silly-ass question would be posted in this forum.... You would get fruits of both strains, most likely. They would NOT cross-pollenate=== Mushrooms do not use pollen!
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 Re: mycelium war! [Re: dioze1]
#308867 - 05/03/01 08:56 PM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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DUH!! i know shroomz dont cross polonate you ninny!!
you know what the hell i mean jack ass, just because i am not a mycologist and dont know what the "proper" terminology is for the question i am asking, so i thought i may relate my question in another way, sorry ASSHOLE for not being a GENIUS like yourself!!
and why this "silly-ass" post is in this topic, IS for a MYCOLOGIST...someone who know what the hell they are talking about....to answer my questions correctly without misinformation from misinformists like yourself!!!
...obviously your post didnt answer my post CORRECTLY,
or ANYTHING for that matter, but being a GENIUS, i wont blame you.
the only true dumbass in this post is YOURSELF!!!
Thanx ASSHOLE....you have taught me well.
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: 40oz]
#308900 - 05/03/01 09:30 PM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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here, I'm not a genius, but I believe this is how it works. (why they won't make a hybrid) Once the spore creates a mycelial strand, that strand searches for another with the same genetic makeup.(i'm guessing) they do something and start creating a larger network, now looking for nutrients. But I'm sure they don't team up with something they don't recognize, just leave it alone. And they have no attack mechanisms, they only war they could have is over colonization. The one who colonizes fastest might make the other less fortunate.
As of 04-10-01, I hereby declare myself an official Mycelial Ninja. Others may join, its a free dojo.
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: Crasher]
#309002 - 05/04/01 12:01 AM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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im no genius either but i was tought by a few people that really knew there shit and this is how it works. take pollen from two different strains and put them together ( not in a syringe ) ....just mix the powder pollen together like X and cola....now....bring about five hundred petri dishes out and a couple pounds of agar and get ready for 450 of those dishes to fruit some crappy ass mushrooms, and if you are lucky a hybrid of the two strains will actually fruit it just wont be potent or have good traits. if you are really lucky you will have one strain that will cross and be more potent than both strains put together. this is wat i was told but gave up on trying because of the money, time, and my impatience to it all. just grow some regular shrooms and have a blast!! but if you want to cultivate a new strain thats how to do it. good luck both ways. and hey, dont worry about the $1...i got good ol' Colt45 sittin warm in me belly and plenty of pollen to let the others know that its still yellow, just like my....oh fuck the correct WORD!!!!! anyways, later
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: 40oz]
#309092 - 05/04/01 03:54 AM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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Watch the bad mouthing. I do not claim to be a Genius-but I do know more than you do about it. That is the reason I answered your post. You wanted an answer- that is the correct one.
If you want to know how to make a hybrid-then ask that question instead.
I did not misinform you. The answer I gave you IS the right one.
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: dioze1]
#309308 - 05/04/01 12:30 PM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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did you search before you asked?
Your question in the beginning sounded like something that has been asked many times before
dioze's post sounded reasonable
guess you don't like your post being called silly...
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: Triple_3]
#309339 - 05/04/01 01:03 PM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: 40oz]
#309396 - 05/04/01 02:14 PM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes they will compete for the substrate, moisture, etc.. Depending upon which strain is better suited to the exact environment, it will perform better. According to some research on Oyster mushrooms, some of the mycelium from the different strains might actually form clamp connections, and the better suited strain will use those connections to gather nutrients for itself, via the other strains mycelium. It has never been studied in P. cubensis though. The Borg philosophy of mushroom competition. To answer the question, they will compete.
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: ]
#309403 - 05/04/01 02:27 PM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well said, Teonan.
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: ]
#309408 - 05/04/01 02:41 PM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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at last someone here to answer my question without any bullshit!!
alright cool,
thanks dude!
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: 40oz]
#309564 - 05/04/01 06:35 PM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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without any bullshit??
It took 5 posts for everyone to figure out what you were talking about, including yourself. Then you went and deleted the original question. Then someone answers the question while it's deleted from the thread and you say, "thanks for the no bs answer." Did I miss something?
I know you posted the subject, but would you mind telling me by what right you judge the responses? And/or why?
8?)
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: egghead]
#309660 - 05/04/01 09:47 PM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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dont worry about it.
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: 40oz]
#309664 - 05/04/01 09:57 PM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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You are a spunky(rude little BASTARD)!!
Be EASY with the people that are trying to help you out.
DIoze1
P.S. your question was.... What will happen if I cross pollenate mushrooms?
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: dioze1]
#309694 - 05/04/01 11:04 PM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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all i asks was a simple fukn question, so fuckn shoot me if i used a different terminology to relate to the question, and all i get is qurky fukn rude comments from you antagonist basterds, im sick of you faggots, pointing out everything & anything you can find wrong, then you jump on the chance to
put in your$-0.02, like anyone wants to hear it. is it a fucking contest? ASSHOLE!!
Thats why i deleted the post, Im sick of hearing bullshit!
and if you didnt read, i was "easy" & i DID thank the person who gave me the correct answer. i wasnt rude to him/her.......
but sure as fuckn hell im going to be rude to smartasses
like yourself!....and you think you actually "help" out....
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: 40oz]
#309784 - 05/05/01 05:02 AM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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So are you saying that you get to choose which answer is correct because you posted the subject?
Dude, there's no reason to suffer through an inadequacy complex or whatever. We're all just BSing here. Sounds like some sort of "ignore" feature would make everyone happy.
ps. That pic is great isn't it? I'm glad I gnabbed it from DD before it went down.
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: egghead]
#309793 - 05/05/01 05:26 AM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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hey egghead,
sorry for the b.s, if i didnt delete the original post you would understand and not be confused about this whole fuckn thread.
and thats cool that you remain passive.....no i dont have an inadequacy complex...lol...just lack the context...
k...about the whole choosing who is correct deal....
i was looking for a positive confirmation on the original question from some one who knows what they are talking about, and i get this sarcastic jack-ass pointing out a small detial (terminology), here it is:
from:dioze1
Although I'm not quite sure why such a silly-ass question would be posted in this forum.... You would get fruits of both strains, most likely. They would NOT cross-pollenate=== Mushrooms do not use pollen!
Dioze1
no shit!! i knew that, who doesnt?..he just had to be a smart-ass!
then some one else posts & here that is:
from: teonan
Yes they will compete for the substrate, moisture, etc.. Depending upon which strain is better suited to the exact environment, it will perform better. According to some research on Oyster mushrooms, some of the mycelium from the different strains might actually form clamp connections, and the better suited strain will use those connections to gather nutrients for itself, via the other strains mycelium. It has never been studied in P. cubensis though. The Borg philosophy of mushroom competition. To answer the question, they will compete.
now you tell me which answer is worth hearing?
from dioze1 point of few....they will SHARE the casing happily...or "MOST LIKELY"...
then read teonans post....
who do you think is correct???
so once again, sorry egghead for jumping down your throat,
i was just pissed cuz lately these threads have become a shit throwing contest, and thats why i deleted my posts...so i can stay clear of the shit.
when that didnt work.... i started throwing shit back...
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: egghead]
#309796 - 05/05/01 05:28 AM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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o yeah...and that pic is BAD ASS!!!!
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: 40oz]
#309806 - 05/05/01 05:52 AM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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Cool. I guess it's like in sports where it's always the guy that hits back that gets the technical. :)
I'm pretty new here and still getting to know the folks, socks, ground rules, community standards, etc.. So far it seems a little chaotic.
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: egghead]
#309811 - 05/05/01 06:09 AM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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well this thread is/was the only 1from me that some jackass had to turn into a flame....so i wasnt diggin it....got pissed...yadda..yadda..yadda but anyways,
nice to meet you bro!
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: 40oz]
#309834 - 05/05/01 08:54 AM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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yo dude
what you probably dont realize is that if you use multispore innoculation (say a spore syringe for a jar) you also get many different "strains" that compete for substrate, moisture etc.
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: Dirtmaster]
#309866 - 05/05/01 10:10 AM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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BINGO!!!!
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: 40oz]
#309909 - 05/05/01 11:44 AM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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Teonan and myself are correct. He just expanded on it more than I. I never said they would happily share anything. I said you will most likely get fruits from each strain, and you probably would. I'm sure the more dominant strain will be more prolific, but you will still most likely get fruits from both. I have seen Pans come up with cubes.
Besides the name of this forum is "ADVANCED Cultivation" and such a question is not a very advanced(actually a kinda silly) question. EVERYBODY(but you, obviously) knows that shrooms DO NOT utilize pollen.
Enough said.
Good luck to you in all your ventures!!
Dioze1
P.S. you really should not be so defensive-people, like myself, are just trying to help you get the RIGHT answer.
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: dioze1]
#310088 - 05/05/01 05:21 PM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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o.k....lets get things straight.....
i know shrooms dont pollinate you faggot!! i told you in 3 different posts why i used that terminology....and you are still yet to understand.....are you RETARDED???
yes i see that this is the "advanced cultivation" forum...
i wanted a MYCOLOGIST who knows for sure what the hell they are talking about to answer my question.....
now you tell me....this is what i get from your posts:
"Although I'm not quite sure why such a silly-ass question would be posted in this forum.... You would get fruits of both strains, most likely."...................
..............."MOST LIKELY"!?!
ok....this post is not assuring at all.
now, teonans post is by far more assuring & reliable than your half assed answer.
then you post AFTER teonan, a somewhat different post
than your original post, like you were waiting for some1 else to answer correctly/properly b4 opening your big ass mouth...
and as far as being a mod-cop,
this post was for some1 who is ADVANCED to answer
(obviously not you), and if you believe highly in being a little bitch being anal about where this post belongs,
and you really believe in respecting this forum (advanced cultivation) regardless of the question, even if it doesnt belong here, you should give a respectable answer.
so once again, that just shows, you are a little bitch,
who needs to be sarcastic and put in your $-0.02,
obviously no one wants to hear it, although its quite funny.
i made 1 slip up on terminology, but is was a question regarding hybrids...i would assume it had to do with genes
or some shit like that.....
it belongs here.
if it was about casing, then it would belong at the other forum (mushroom cultivation)....obviously you had to be a little bitch about said terminology....becuz if you truly believed in where posts go....you would have posted in my other post in this forum (initiating pinning), THAT i will admit doesnt belong here.
no once again...
you are a little bitch!!....and a bearded ball licker!! FAGGOT!
fuckn DODE!
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: dioze1]
#310111 - 05/05/01 06:00 PM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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Can't we all just get along? Of course, both spore races will express themselves. Mushrooms of both appearances will fruit. Which ever is more dominant will fruit more, that's all. We all seem to be agreeing on the same thing, question asked, question answered. This is the proper forum for this question, yes the original question was worded incorrectly, but we understood and answered, no need to flame the questioner, or the responders!!!!!
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: ]
#310113 - 05/05/01 06:04 PM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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i know bro...i hate flame-posts too....
well, as we all know...the delete button doesnt really work.....
...if it did, this hole spat wouldnt have happened...
but o'well.
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: 40oz]
#310163 - 05/05/01 08:11 PM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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Teonan, you are well spoken. I appreciate that.
As for Forty(fourty?)... I wished you well and let it rest. What else do you want... a HUMMER! Jesus!! Calm down!!
I am sure I know what I am talking about!!!
You can pick and choose the answers you want. That is fine.
I was merely pointing out the right one!!
It is NOT people like me that ruin posts, it is people like you. I have made amends and still get a rash of shit?!
Again, GOOD luck in all your ventures!!
PEACE
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: dioze1]
#310227 - 05/05/01 11:28 PM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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yes, teonan is well spoken, you...are not.
and as far as when you said,
"It is NOT people like me that ruin posts, it is people like you"
o.k'
lets analize this:
my original post was a question that DID belong.,(you got that wrong too) just becuz i didnt use "proper terminology",
you jumped down my throat and set a flame:
wait, lets recall:
Although I'm not quite sure why such a silly-ass question would be posted in this forum.... You would get fruits of both strains, most likely. They would NOT cross-pollenate=== Mushrooms do not use pollen!
Dioze1
since you are blind to see, you threw the FIRST BLOW!!
so once again you are wrong and it just goes to show,
"It is NOT people like me that ruin posts, it is people like you"
soo...i wont blame you, and i will forgive you for being wrong over & over & over again.
~fortyounces2freedom~ & ~disconnectedhaze~ Edited by fortyounces2freedom on 05/06/01 03:14 AM.
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: 40oz]
#310267 - 05/06/01 01:07 AM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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B.T.W..........WRONG AGAiN!!!!!!!!!!!!! :
Main Entry: for?ty
Pronunciation: 'for-tE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural forties
Etymology: Middle English fourty, adjective, from Old English fEowertig, from fEowertig group of 40, from fEower four + -tig group of 10; akin to Old English tIen ten
Date: before 12th century
1 -- see NUMBER table
2 plural : the numbers 40 to 49; specifically : the years 40 to 49 in a lifetime or century
3 : the third point scored by a side in a game of tennis
- for?ti?eth /'for-tE-&th/ adjective or noun
- forty adjective
- forty pronoun, plural in construction
- for?ty?ish /-tE-ish/ adjective
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: 40oz]
#310354 - 05/06/01 05:25 AM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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I am not sure what your problem is, nor do I really care. I have wished you well over and over and you still wanna cry. That is fine.
The "fourty?" remark is because I thought that is the way you had it spelled in your name---I miss read it and it IS my mistake.
All that matters is that my answer to you IS/WAS correct. That is the only reason I answered your post to begin with--was to give you the RIGHT answer. Up until I originally answered the post the first time, you had no truly correct answers.
As for the "first-blow"... You administered that with all the name calling. I never called you any derogatory names. I said you question was silly, and it was.(THAT is why you deleted it)
It IS people like yourself that have caused all the people that USED to hang out in this forum to leave.
As for your "forgiveness", I don't need it or, at this point,want it. There is nothing to forgive. I have done no wrong.
For the THIRD time.... I wish you well in all your ventures!!!
Good luck!!
Dioze1
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: dioze1]
#310360 - 05/06/01 05:44 AM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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o.k, all i have to say, is that you suck dick.,
your a faggot who cant read, and you have a major problem of being indenial.
suck my balls, have a nice life & eat alot of shroomz!
let this thread come to an end, cuz all this is, is a shit filled impass.
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: 40oz]
#310368 - 05/06/01 06:16 AM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: dioze1]
#310427 - 05/06/01 09:41 AM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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forty, you should chill out and grow up.
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: Dirtmaster]
#310564 - 05/06/01 01:26 PM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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ok.
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: 40oz]
#310569 - 05/06/01 01:35 PM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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Geesh, I guess this thread has gone into shit....
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dioze1
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Re: mycelium war! [Re: Thor]
#310575 - 05/06/01 01:47 PM (23 years, 7 months ago) |
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Good guess!!!
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