Nichrome said:

SkanskKorv said:

Asura said:

I'm starting with 0.5g this weekend for my first go with these.

For those that know, how are these different than cyans? The come up
on cyans has always been terrifying for bc it's so quick and disorienting...but then...wow

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I think you could experience Semps the same way and that's why I redose as I've mentioned before. Semps are far more intense imo but in a good kinda way. I would compare it to DMT rather than another mushroom because I tried DMT not long ago and was shocked how similar it was to Semps but ofc the DMT is more intense though the effect is so similar with the intense visuals all over your field of view. 0.5g isn't too much and you won't be tripping away extremely on it I'd say but I myself start even lower to avoid having to hang on to the bricks of the universe for a few hours after the initial dose you can do whatever dose you wanna without the heavy come up and the ride is incredibly smooth and feels very "perfected". This works with other mushrooms too so I suggest trying it with the p cyans as well

I don't know if my TTBVI actually were at full potency, I'm starting to doubt it, but 0.5g TTBVI were underwhelming imo and 0.5g Semps aren't very underwhelming. But as mentioned my TTBVI potency might've been below what I thought they were...

With this said I also haven't had a single "bad" trip on Semps just challenging or wonky trips at its worst so don't be too worried, I think you'd handle a gram too but it's better to be safe than sorry here

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Psilocybin and psilocin are forms of DMT. Psilocin for example has one extra functional group (OH) as compared to NN-DMT. Not "like" DMT, but "is" DMT.

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Thanks for the added info mate but I already knew this. I use the layman terms when I speak about this in public so that people who are unaware of all these chemical names will understand what I mean. It's harder for new members to know the difference between 4-phosphoryloxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine and N,N-dimethyltryptamine than it is to know the difference between Psilocybin and DMT.

Bra said:

For me, 1 g of semps equals a Level 3 trip.
For pans, 0.6 g equals a Level 3 trip.

I’d go with 1 g of semps. The 0.5 g I tried was a pretty unpleasant, semi-trippy experience. I wasn’t tripping yet, but I felt weird. Never again at those low doses.

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Mackload said:

so dark

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@Bra/Asura: Just a little heads up here. I don't know what potency Bra's Semps have been but this is definitely not my experience. 0.5g Semps has brought me to level 3 and even closer to level 4 several times so I would definitely not recommend almost twice as much Semps as pans because that can be a disaster waiting to happen since they're on par with pans and the effect itself is just much stronger imo. I know you guys are incredibly experienced compared to me but I know Semperviva HVC very well by now and if you harvest them when they're dark as death like the ones I showed above you're in for quite a ride at a quite low dose.

Ofc you should do as you feel but after eating a shit load of Semps I also know some are INCREDIBLY spicy and the potency can vary a lot.

My latest trip on these was my most challenging one I've ever had because I did 0.25g which usually gives me quite clear and obvious visuals at a level 2 stage but I ended up at a weak level 1 so I did another 0.6g and that only just brought me to level 3 and barely so I was about to stop dosing but chose to do another 0.8g over 2 hours in and suddenly I was launched into a heavy level 5 trip without being prepared at all and spent the next 4 hours feeling as if I heard every single thought on earth at once whilst being dissolved into nothing then reassembled and it kept going like this... I didn't realise what was going on until I suddenly snapped back and realized I'm not a puddle of universe, I'm a dude... I'm still exhausted after this almost 2 weeks after

If you harvest sooner than I do then perhaps they're 40% weaker than pans but I would NEVER underestimate Semps harvested at the right time

Asura said:

@SkanskKorv I completely pussied out this weekend and did not try them. I have weird
stuff going on...relatives almost dying and things like that. I figured I should wait.

I've been harvesting when they get really dark....so yeah they are probably spicy

Also...nothing quite like an accidental level 5 trip, right? Jesus, that is always some
scary shit. Hope you are fully recovered soon. I am always so grateful for 3D geometry
when I come back from those.

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You didn't pussy out man, you took a responsible decision. And man I'm sorry for what you're going through

Actually it wasn't very scary but so incredibly intense... My brain feels completely overloaded after it as if it has been used to its limit and just needs to recharge but the thing that happened was that I just got completely dissolved and sent into something beautiful but I can't describe it the only clear memory I was allowed to bring back from it was that I felt like "Bruce the almighty" when he started answering all prayers on earth so I guess I once again got to experience what it is like to try to be God but man I'm a shitty God


And for me I was shocked and didn't recognise "reality" when I was suddenly launched out of it and my neck still hurts because I was launched while watching a movie sitting up so I didn't "land" very comfortably and woke up confused AF with quite heavy pains through my neck but man you're right because I definitely appreciate the physical world more now

But don't worry about me I'm just depleted, this trip was actually a very rewarding trip in the end and I kinda want it to happen again but at the same time I don't lol.

Bigworm said:

Part of being a good psychonaught is to know when to launch and when to say "no go". You made the right call, no pussyness about that.
Hell I took a two year break from it because shit wasn't right.

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Bigworm said:

Part of being a good psychonaught is to know when to launch and when to say "no go". You made the right call, no pussyness about that.
Hell I took a two year break from it because shit wasn't right.

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99.99 said:

Bigworm said:

Part of being a good psychonaught is to know when to launch and when to say "no go". You made the right call, no pussyness about that.
Hell I took a two year break from it because shit wasn't right.

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Has anyone mentioned how beneficial trazodone is as a trip stopper?
Since everybody’s concerned about getting lost in a heavy trip, it might be helpful to have a couple of these around. I’ve been using them for the last 15 years and they’ve sure helped me out several rough times.

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99.99 said:

Bigworm said:

Part of being a good psychonaught is to know when to launch and when to say "no go". You made the right call, no pussyness about that.
Hell I took a two year break from it because shit wasn't right.

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Has anyone mentioned how beneficial trazodone is as a trip stopper?
Since everybody’s concerned about getting lost in a heavy trip, it might be helpful to have a couple of these around. I’ve been using them for the last 15 years and they’ve sure helped me out several rough times.

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Churpee Choozle said:

To each their own, but I wouldn't carry a tripstopper with me if they came raining from the sky.

Working my way through whatever was thrown at me, has been one of the most therapeutic sides of tripping. Being forced to watch loved ones dying, on loop, or being forced to see all your failures, misconceptions and weaknesses, then coming out in one piece, pure cathartic bliss. That confused moment when you realize that whatever just happened, actually happened years or decades ago, and you're still here and alive...

Again, to each their own and by no means a recommendation.

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I have had plenty of bad trips but I've never had trip killers at home.

I find it better to face what's coming because it's coming for a reason and being able to look away from what the mushrooms are trying to show isn't good. It's like seeing wars and devastation on the news but you chose to switch channels because the news are unpleasant but in reality they're important to see.

And I agree, each to their own. I don't think someone who uses a trip killer does something wrong, I just feel it wouldn't be my own best option.

Enduring awful things without any help is what made me who I am and I've never had anything like a trip killer with anything else in life so I feel the same goes for mushrooms for me - it's better to face it raw than to censor it because it's hard to watch/endure.