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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Fiet]
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Fiet said:
Hey, that's a great advice thanks.. OK then i will wait a week bevore i do a transfer i have 2 quart jars with LC in looks good too today will post a picture later... My Plates bevore was great so my LC looks also good i highly belive the agar was not PC long enough but will see i will not transfer anything bevore the Week is gone.



+1 on waiting to ensure cleanliness, at least 3 days but a week is best.

How long did you PC? Because it's basically just water, PC times for agar are pretty chill. 30 minutes is plenty even for 1L bottles. Even in an instant pot 30 will do (though due to the lower pressure, in IP I sometimes do 45 to be safe).


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Rasmodius] * 1
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boil em and then put them in your bum!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Cakewonder] * 2
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Wrong thread bud,,,, we're boofing stuff Over Here :boofbanana:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: g59disso]
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g59disso said:
For those jars, about 20-30% of the volume, but you have to account for the rootball of mycelium in the center that you cant see.
Pro-tip: I use a massage gun w/ rubber ball on low setting pressed to the bottom of the jar to B&S as it doesnt bruise as much and keeps uncolonized grains from getting stuck around the lid where they become high risk for contam

[Toloco massage gun amazon for those who want one; I hereby dub this Toloco Tek]

Also I noticed you said first shake, let me clarify that if you use liquid culture you can give your grain a gentle side-side shake (or I massage them) to disperse the liquid. That would be your "first shake", at 25% you do your "Second and Last shake" because you dont touch it after that.

TL;DR its ready for a shake, bounce it on your knee





Hey, I do shake my both Jars :wink: let's see how they perform the next Day's

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Rasmodius]
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Rasmodius said:
Fiet said:
Hey, that's a great advice thanks.. OK then i will wait a week bevore i do a transfer i have 2 quart jars with LC in looks good too today will post a picture later... My Plates bevore was great so my LC looks also good i highly belive the agar was not PC long enough but will see i will not transfer anything bevore the Week is gone.



+1 on waiting to ensure cleanliness, at least 3 days but a week is best.

How long did you PC? Because it's basically just water, PC times for agar are pretty chill. 30 minutes is plenty even for 1L bottles. Even in an instant pot 30 will do (though due to the lower pressure, in IP I sometimes do 45 to be safe).





I think last time with my contam issues i belive 20-25min that's maybe the problem this time today i do a save 40min PC at 15PSI

Waiting is a good idea thanks

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mackload]
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Mackload said:
do regular hay bales work for straw?




Hay contains too much nitrogen which is what makes it a bad substrate. Though you could use a straw bale without issue. Chopping it up is some extra work as mentioned.

The stuff huskies linked is great. There's another shredded brand, straw boss, that they sell at tractor supply for like $11 a bale. Stuff is solid. Sometimes you get a sprout or two growing with straw, but it's a non issue. There's a link in my signature for pasteurizing straw as a substrate if you are interested.:mushroom2:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Agar Wedge]
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I think straw boss is a tariff victim or something. I haven't seen it available for a long time.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: bloodssonnew]
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If I understand mycorrhizal fungi correctly, and I am not claiming that I do. The rye/grass grown from feed hays would be tremendously beneficial to those species as the grasses roots would provide the support structure to exchange nutrients between the grass and fungi.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: shroom_fae]
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question:

trying to source glass petri dishes to get started on agar. turns out these are very difficult to find in town. looking online the ones i am seeing are all borosilicate and have a temperature threshold. my understanding is that one sterilizes these in a pressur cooker prior to use. am i wasting my time with borosilicate or does it matter? is there a preferred supplier you guys like to use?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Belome] * 4
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4 oz jars make really good petris no pour


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Belome] * 2
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Borosilicate is the preferred type of glass for most labware because itโ€™s pretty resistant against high heat and sudden temperature changes. So perfect to use in a pressure canner.

Personally I prefer reusable plastic petri dishes. I think most people here prefer plastic over glass Petri dishes because they are easier to handle.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Belome] * 1
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Belome said:
question:

trying to source glass petri dishes to get started on agar. turns out these are very difficult to find in town. looking online the ones i am seeing are all borosilicate and have a temperature threshold. my understanding is that one sterilizes these in a pressur cooker prior to use. am i wasting my time with borosilicate or does it matter? is there a preferred supplier you guys like to use?



I took some torch glass forming classes in college (but no blowing, sadly), so I remember a couple things:

borosilicate is a strong glass, it's what lab glass and OG pyrex was made of (the pyrex name was since bought, and modern pyrex are no longer the lab-grade tanks they used to be. Vintage pyrex is indestructible.).

IDK if all borosilicates are created equal, but if they're inexpensive and you can get one or two, it could be worth a try. As with PP5 plastics, there's some wiggle room between what they say it can handle and what it can actually handle. I've PC'd some things I technically shouldn't and been pleasantly surprised, but I've lost the gamble and melted some stuff as well.

With glass, slow change is key. Bring it to temp both up and down as gently as possible. Natural release on the PC, or even a supervised burner lowering if possible (though that's a lot of work, only worth it if the nat release is giving you trouble). Going from PC temp to room temp too quickly is what will stress/break the glass. EG setting hot glass on a cold stone countertop. The touching edge will shrink faster as it cools rapidly while the inside is still warm and a bit expanded, and that difference is what will cause the brittle glass to fracture. Changing temp slowly lets the whole unit adjust unniformly, so that there aren't stress points in any one area.

When we would finish working on a glass piece, we'd move it to a special oven/kiln that would keep it hot but below melting point, and then sloooowly drop it down to room temp overnight, to minimize the risk of breakage.

Full disclosure, I've never personally worked with glass petris, so I can't recommend any suppliers or anything.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Belome] * 1
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Belome said:
question:

trying to source glass petri dishes to get started on agar. turns out these are very difficult to find in town. looking online the ones i am seeing are all borosilicate and have a temperature threshold. my understanding is that one sterilizes these in a pressur cooker prior to use. am i wasting my time with borosilicate or does it matter? is there a preferred supplier you guys like to use?




The borosilicate are the good ones, will have some printing on them regarding size maker etc. The cheapies are soda-lime glass. They aren't really supposed to go in the PC but they actually work fine.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: g59disso] * 1
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g59disso said:
For those jars, about 20-30% of the volume, but you have to account for the rootball of mycelium in the center that you cant see.
Pro-tip: I use a massage gun w/ rubber ball on low setting pressed to the bottom of the jar to B&S as it doesnt bruise as much and keeps uncolonized grains from getting stuck around the lid where they become high risk for contam

[Toloco massage gun amazon for those who want one; I hereby dub this Toloco Tek]

Also I noticed you said first shake, let me clarify that if you use liquid culture you can give your grain a gentle side-side shake (or I massage them) to disperse the liquid. That would be your "first shake", at 25% you do your "Second and Last shake" because you dont touch it after that.

TL;DR its ready for a shake, bounce it on your knee





For sure. Shake away friend.


Also.


I just wanted to step in here and say his second Shake definitely shouldn't be his last shake.(and it's okay if you feel like doing it even more times along the way in between.)  Just don't go overboard. But as long as your jar is healthy it's not going to matter too much.

Anyways

Lots of us around here practice doing a final break and Shake
usually a couple days before we actually spawn the thing.

We like to break it up one more time nice and good and then see how quickly it recovers or if it decides to reveal  some contams we maybe overlooked or couldnt see..

If the recover time is quick in the myc starts growing back without any issues or revealing contams. then we feel super confident about spawning it to bulk..

This is just a little trick for some reassurance and going into your grow without having to worry as much.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Belome]
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thanks you guys!

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Belome] * 1
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Belome said:
thanks you guys!



Thank you for choosing a name from such a wonderful video game from my childhood

I'm honestly surprised they haven't tried another turn-based RPG in the Mario universe


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon]
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PuffM4gicDr4gon said:
Belome said:
thanks you guys!



Thank you for choosing a name from such a wonderful video game from my childhood

I'm honestly surprised they haven't tried another turn-based RPG in the Mario universe



while awaiting the come-up on my first big trip i was playing mario rpg so i chose this name in honour of that wonderful night. always loved belome, big food obsessed glutton who hangs around in a temple all day surrounded by shamen and zoning the fuck out. felt like a perfect fit. i never tried any of the other RPGs, i knew i would just be setting myself up for disappointment. the original is my ultimate happy place game

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Belome]
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Paper Mario was pretty dope.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Belome]
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Belome said:
question:

trying to source glass petri dishes to get started on agar. turns out these are very difficult to find in town. looking online the ones i am seeing are all borosilicate and have a temperature threshold. my understanding is that one sterilizes these in a pressur cooker prior to use. am i wasting my time with borosilicate or does it matter? is there a preferred supplier you guys like to use?



Borosilicate can handle like 450 degrees Fahrenheit,  no commercial PC reaches that temp,  I use Borosilicate and they are good:thumbup:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: langten69]
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Borosilicate is what I'm getting only heard good things aside from people claiming they harder to handle

(Assuming they talking about stacking and pouring though I don't think il have any problem il justdo 5 stacks then set on top eachother to make 10 stack rolls with tinfoil then PC after pouring :amanita2:


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