sudly said:

If idealism was true, what insight could we garner from it?

What answers would it provide, or useful perspective would it be?

I guess im just asking what benefit it might have if we did somehow confirm it?

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1) Insights garnered from idealism are described in almost (if not) all spiritual texts throughout the ages,  the most notable in my mind being the Kybalion. It states that "all is mind, the universe is mental". Newer proponents of this idea (such as Bob Proctor) have repackaged this idea with the phrase "If you change the way you look at something, the way it looks changes". This echoes the principle that "everything is the way it is, because you are the way you are" (as stated by Neville Goddard).

2)The answer that it provides is 'what is your current state of being'. Life is a mirror, If you are kind to others, others reflect kindness as filtered through their idea of kindness

See todays verse of the day:



3)You benefit from idealism, by taking note of your reality, and realizing that you are its foundation. If you wish to alter the projection of reality, you must alter the lens with which it is projected through (which is your concept of yourself)

Quote:

"If you change the way you look at something, the way it looks changes". This echoes the principle that "everything is the way it is, because you are the way you are" (as stated by Neville Goddard).

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redgreenvines said:

reading the quotes another way, they point to the nature of mind as the first thing that should be understood.

i.e. mental contents are the universe we face (sensory and perceptive reflexes)
understanding the relational basis of mental contents:
1) memory forms by association (relations - what happened with what)
2) perception or thought content is reflexive - relations are reactivated

I agree that this has primacy or great importance, but not to the extent of denial of the physical basis of existing things.

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Rahz said:

Quote:

"If you change the way you look at something, the way it looks changes". This echoes the principle that "everything is the way it is, because you are the way you are" (as stated by Neville Goddard).

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It's not an echo. The first quote regards appearance and the second, reality.

The second quote is at odds with the idea that reality has meaningful constraints regardless of it's ultimate nature.

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redgreenvines said:

I am astonished and delighted that you typed that you agree

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Rahz said:

Whether reality exists outside the mind doesn't seem as important as whether reality is constrained in some way. Without over-extension, physicalism simply is a predictive system with a solid track record.

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