AlChemicalResearch said:

sudly said:

This is just true,

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Hillary Clinton did not sell weapons-grade uranium to Russia. This claim is false and mischaracterizes a 2010 commercial business acquisition known as the Uranium One deal.

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You even tried to walk it back by saying raw uranium can be turned into weapons grade uranium.

Do you think anything is unique to trump?


You could say he does similar things to others, but on a larger scale.

And that larger scale is a unique difference.

Weird how you said holys characterisation of trump wasn't wrong, but that the tone was too much? Wtf is that about?

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How is the scale of Trump enriching himself greater than Bush Jr/Cheney?
I think what is unique to Trump is he shitposts. That's it.

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Bush Jr didnt make billions during his presidency?

Trump enriched himself during his presidency to a greater scale than any other president..

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President Lyndon B. Johnson’s wife owned a profitable radio station. George W. Bush was on the board of an oil company while his father was in the White House. And Hunter Biden was paid by a Ukrainian natural gas company while his father was vice president.

But never before in American history has there been anything like Donald J. Trump, a president who in his first year back in office has collected about $1.4 billion in new revenues from cryptocurrency businesses that directly benefited from his actions as president, a financial disclosure report made public on Tuesday shows.

Overall, Mr. Trump’s revenue in 2025 jumped to at least $2.2 billion, compared with a minimum of $622 million in 2024 before he returned to office.

“It is completely unprecedented,” said Megan Gorman, a tax attorney and the author of a recent book, “All the Presidents’ Money,” that studied the history of presidential wealth dating back 250 years.

https://electionlawblog.org/2026/trumps-moneymaking-run-unrivaled-in-presidential-history/

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sudly said:

AlChemicalResearch said:

sudly said:

This is just true,

Quote:

Hillary Clinton did not sell weapons-grade uranium to Russia. This claim is false and mischaracterizes a 2010 commercial business acquisition known as the Uranium One deal.

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You even tried to walk it back by saying raw uranium can be turned into weapons grade uranium.

Do you think anything is unique to trump?


You could say he does similar things to others, but on a larger scale.

And that larger scale is a unique difference.

Weird how you said holys characterisation of trump wasn't wrong, but that the tone was too much? Wtf is that about?

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How is the scale of Trump enriching himself greater than Bush Jr/Cheney?
I think what is unique to Trump is he shitposts. That's it.

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Bush Jr didnt make billions during his presidency?

Trump enriched himself during his presidency to a greater scale than any other president..

Quote:

President Lyndon B. Johnson’s wife owned a profitable radio station. George W. Bush was on the board of an oil company while his father was in the White House. And Hunter Biden was paid by a Ukrainian natural gas company while his father was vice president.

But never before in American history has there been anything like Donald J. Trump, a president who in his first year back in office has collected about $1.4 billion in new revenues from cryptocurrency businesses that directly benefited from his actions as president, a financial disclosure report made public on Tuesday shows.

Overall, Mr. Trump’s revenue in 2025 jumped to at least $2.2 billion, compared with a minimum of $622 million in 2024 before he returned to office.

“It is completely unprecedented,” said Megan Gorman, a tax attorney and the author of a recent book, “All the Presidents’ Money,” that studied the history of presidential wealth dating back 250 years.

https://electionlawblog.org/2026/trumps-moneymaking-run-unrivaled-in-presidential-history/

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sudly said:

Bush pushed trillions into military corporations. I agree with that.

But Bush didnt enrich himself to the tune of billions.

If he had stocks in the corporations he was overseeing contracts for, it would help to compare it to trump to see the difference in scale.

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sudly said:

Bush pushed trillions into military corporations. I agree with that.

But Bush didnt enrich himself to the tune of billions.

If he had stocks in the corporations he was overseeing contracts for, it would help to compare it to trump to see the difference in scale.

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gww said:

My point was Ai was using it to give trump cover.  The problem with that is that you cannot say bush was bad and that makes trump not so bad.  Trump is worse and our deficit kind of proves that out as well as gov. contracts to his children.  I put his wanting to put his name on everything as part of the corruption.

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vicepope said:

sudly said:

Bush pushed trillions into military corporations. I agree with that.

But Bush didnt enrich himself to the tune of billions.

If he had stocks in the corporations he was overseeing contracts for, it would help to compare it to trump to see the difference in scale.

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But wouldn't you make billions for your family knowing you got a jail out card.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf
Presidential immunity being vage with "official acts".

Could always make the argument for insider trading being legal as president  because official acts have happen for legal reasons beforehand.  Example President Theodore Roosevelt stopped Anthracite Coal Strike of 1902.  He stopped economic problems thus trump has economic power to fix problems. And such problems is he isn't profiting enough.

Lawyers can stretch that out after he leaves office for few years. Meanwhile trump dies and nothing happens with his family wealth.

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AlChemicalResearch said:

gww said:

My point was Ai was using it to give trump cover.  The problem with that is that you cannot say bush was bad and that makes trump not so bad.  Trump is worse and our deficit kind of proves that out as well as gov. contracts to his children.  I put his wanting to put his name on everything as part of the corruption.

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I never said because Bush was bad that makes Trump not so bad. All it means is Trump isn't this unprecedented evil you, and others like you, are making him out to be.

And yes, Trump should have done more to deal with the deficit. But once again, the deficit has been bad since the 2008 bailout. In reality, the current deficit is largely Obama's fault. The debt:gdp ratio went over 100% in 2011, during Obama.

What am I talking about, Bush Jr was the one who signed in the bailouts lol. Obama only signed a couple of them in the first months he was in office. Bush JR had already passed them. Gee whiz.

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gww said:

AlChemicalResearch said:

gww said:

My point was Ai was using it to give trump cover.  The problem with that is that you cannot say bush was bad and that makes trump not so bad.  Trump is worse and our deficit kind of proves that out as well as gov. contracts to his children.  I put his wanting to put his name on everything as part of the corruption.

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I never said because Bush was bad that makes Trump not so bad. All it means is Trump isn't this unprecedented evil you, and others like you, are making him out to be.

And yes, Trump should have done more to deal with the deficit. But once again, the deficit has been bad since the 2008 bailout. In reality, the current deficit is largely Obama's fault. The debt:gdp ratio went over 100% in 2011, during Obama.

What am I talking about, Bush Jr was the one who signed in the bailouts lol. Obama only signed a couple of them in the first months he was in office. Bush JR had already passed them. Gee whiz.

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None of that gives any reason to vote for trump now.  You claim is if we say trump is the worst, that is why people vote for him.

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vicepope said:

Could always make the argument for insider trading being legal as president  because official acts have happen for legal reasons beforehand.  Example President Theodore Roosevelt stopped Anthracite Coal Strike of 1902.  He stopped economic problems thus trump has economic power to fix problems. And such problems is he isn't profiting enough.

Lawyers can stretch that out after he leaves office for few years. Meanwhile trump dies and nothing happens with his family wealth.

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GerryD said:

vicepope said:

Could always make the argument for insider trading being legal as president  because official acts have happen for legal reasons beforehand.  Example President Theodore Roosevelt stopped Anthracite Coal Strike of 1902.  He stopped economic problems thus trump has economic power to fix problems. And such problems is he isn't profiting enough.

Lawyers can stretch that out after he leaves office for few years. Meanwhile trump dies and nothing happens with his family wealth.

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His insider trading isn’t helping fix any problems.  Even if an official act is necessary for economic stability it’s his own choice to profit.  And he’s doing so at the expense of the American people.  His swing trading of the market based on his own press comments (for example: the tariffs-on / tariffs-off orders, the dozens of comments about an Iran peace deal being imminent) manipulated markets in a way that made him money and cost taxpayers with higher prices and market volatility.

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AlChemicalResearch said:

GerryD said:

vicepope said:

Could always make the argument for insider trading being legal as president  because official acts have happen for legal reasons beforehand.  Example President Theodore Roosevelt stopped Anthracite Coal Strike of 1902.  He stopped economic problems thus trump has economic power to fix problems. And such problems is he isn't profiting enough.

Lawyers can stretch that out after he leaves office for few years. Meanwhile trump dies and nothing happens with his family wealth.

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His insider trading isn’t helping fix any problems.  Even if an official act is necessary for economic stability it’s his own choice to profit.  And he’s doing so at the expense of the American people.  His swing trading of the market based on his own press comments (for example: the tariffs-on / tariffs-off orders, the dozens of comments about an Iran peace deal being imminent) manipulated markets in a way that made him money and cost taxpayers with higher prices and market volatility.

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Not saying that is something the President should be doing, but you could make money off it too. Just saying.

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AlChemicalResearch said:

GerryD said:

vicepope said:

Could always make the argument for insider trading being legal as president  because official acts have happen for legal reasons beforehand.  Example President Theodore Roosevelt stopped Anthracite Coal Strike of 1902.  He stopped economic problems thus trump has economic power to fix problems. And such problems is he isn't profiting enough.

Lawyers can stretch that out after he leaves office for few years. Meanwhile trump dies and nothing happens with his family wealth.

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His insider trading isn’t helping fix any problems.  Even if an official act is necessary for economic stability it’s his own choice to profit.  And he’s doing so at the expense of the American people.  His swing trading of the market based on his own press comments (for example: the tariffs-on / tariffs-off orders, the dozens of comments about an Iran peace deal being imminent) manipulated markets in a way that made him money and cost taxpayers with higher prices and market volatility.

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Not saying that is something the President should be doing, but you could make money off it too. Just saying.

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AlChemicalResearch said:

sudly said:

Bush pushed trillions into military corporations. I agree with that.

But Bush didnt enrich himself to the tune of billions.

If he had stocks in the corporations he was overseeing contracts for, it would help to compare it to trump to see the difference in scale.

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so you're taking issue with the fact Trump didn't launder his corruption correctly?

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AlChemicalResearch said:

GerryD said:

vicepope said:

Could always make the argument for insider trading being legal as president  because official acts have happen for legal reasons beforehand.  Example President Theodore Roosevelt stopped Anthracite Coal Strike of 1902.  He stopped economic problems thus trump has economic power to fix problems. And such problems is he isn't profiting enough.

Lawyers can stretch that out after he leaves office for few years. Meanwhile trump dies and nothing happens with his family wealth.

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His insider trading isn’t helping fix any problems.  Even if an official act is necessary for economic stability it’s his own choice to profit.  And he’s doing so at the expense of the American people.  His swing trading of the market based on his own press comments (for example: the tariffs-on / tariffs-off orders, the dozens of comments about an Iran peace deal being imminent) manipulated markets in a way that made him money and cost taxpayers with higher prices and market volatility.

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Not saying that is something the President should be doing, but you could make money off it too. Just saying.

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