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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: dinosaurs]
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:slowpoke: everyday  dinosaurs.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Lynnch]
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Lynnch said:
AlChemicalResearch said:
No, what put him in office is people like YOU who sound like unhinged freaks railing against a populist for reasons that don't make any fucking sense. No one elected Trump. The voted to keep Hilary out of power, or COVID era leftists out of power. Why do you think when Trump went up against a relatively reasonable candidate, Joe Biden, he lost? Cause people were like, ok yea I could see how Biden is the lesser of two evils.


Uh so these reasonable centrists looked at Trump -The lying narssicistic felon , and Kamala -The most boring corporate empty void possible , and thought 'Gosh Kamala is too dangerous'
Sorry bud, I don't buy it.

I kinda think you just don't like it when people correctly see the MAGA movement for what it is: christian-white-nationalist fascism.
And I kinda think you want to paint the "Left" as the real scary extremists.

Anyway, anybody who drank the koolaid and believed Trump was going to do anything for them along a populist policy plan is, right about now, finding out that it was all a bunch of lies.


AlChemicalResearch said:
... You don't understand how trolling works apparently. Party one says something that makes party two say/act/behave in a way that gets party three to act/behave/form an opinion in a certain way. ...


I hate to break it to you, but trolls mostly just make themselves look stupid while everyone else laughs.


well considering Kamala wasn't voted for by her party to be the candidate and combined with the democratic antics during covid, not to mention the homofascist tactics surround the trans thing, yes, centrists looked at Kamala and said she is the greater of 2 evils. Thats how incompetent the Democrats are. They got people to view Trump as the lesser of two evils by trying to make him look like the greatest evil of all time, which he's obviously not. Well at least obvious to most people just trying to live their lives.

and no making yourself look stupid to make other people laugh isnt' trolling. its being a comedian or playing the fool, etc. Trolling is person 1 says/does something to person 2 to try to elicit a response from person 3. The is the origins of trolling. If you want to make the argument it turned into just acting like a retard for the sake of humor, because that is kind of what it looks like from the outside, then sure, whatever, that makes you person 2.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: gww]
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Yea but I didn't vote for trump because it was too distasteful. you clearly aren't from the USA and don't understand how voting works. No one has ever voted for a candidate they actually liked, except for the MAGAs during Trump era, its always the lesser of two evils vote. and lets be real here, tehre aren't enough MAGA people to get trump elected. He grabbed the people on the fence by not interrupting the Democrats while they were making a mistake.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: AlChemicalResearch]
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You would first have to be on the outside to know what it looks like on the outside.  Who picks "outside" over people who just do what they do and then make excuses so it is not thier fault.

In our time in america, trump is the greatest evil ever.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: AlChemicalResearch] * 2
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AlChemicalResearch said:
Yea but I didn't vote for trump because it was too distasteful. you clearly aren't from the USA and don't understand how voting works. No one has ever voted for a candidate they actually liked, except for the MAGAs during Trump era, its always the lesser of two evils vote. and lets be real here, tehre aren't enough MAGA people to get trump elected. He grabbed the people on the fence by not interrupting the Democrats while they were making a mistake.


He got elected by racist dog whistles, never being clear and allowing people to take little parts and say he agrees with me and just lying his ass off about his capabilities.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: gww]
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gww said:
You would first have to be on the outside to know what it looks like on the outside.  Who picks "outside" over people who just do what they do and then make excuses so it is not thier fault.

In our time in america, trump is the greatest evil ever.


not even close, Bush JR and co was 20 years ago.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: gww]
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gww said:
AlChemicalResearch said:
Yea but I didn't vote for trump because it was too distasteful. you clearly aren't from the USA and don't understand how voting works. No one has ever voted for a candidate they actually liked, except for the MAGAs during Trump era, its always the lesser of two evils vote. and lets be real here, tehre aren't enough MAGA people to get trump elected. He grabbed the people on the fence by not interrupting the Democrats while they were making a mistake.


He got elected by racist dog whistles, never being clear and allowing people to take little parts and say he agrees with me and just lying his ass off about his capabilities.


the majority of this sentence is unintelligible.

no racist dog whistles didn't get him elected, and neither did "america isn't ready for a woman president".

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: AlChemicalResearch] * 3
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Yes, yes he was ...he also said that kamala would get us into a war with Iran. He clearly projected what he was going to do onto her, knowing there was a good chunk of his voter base, that hated the idea. Stop making excuses for the worst president ever.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Sulfurshelfsean] * 4
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Sulfurshelfsean said:
Yes, yes he was ...he also said that kamala would get us into a war with Iran. He clearly projected what he was going to do onto her, knowing there was a good chunk of his voter base, that hated the idea. Stop making excuses for the worst president ever.




He is a demented scumbag running the entire country off impulse from moment to moment with no long term plan whatsoever. The only "plan" is to Russify the United States government into a formal organized crime group to facilitate the theft of taxpayer dollars.

:yeahgoodadvice:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: gww] * 3
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gww said:
Dude, he is going to be just like crackbaby and say I am not a trump supporter.  He has said a couple of times, he didn't vote for trump.  I say hum, you sure carry his water for him.  Call me a skeptic.


CrAcKbAby didn't vote for Trump, because he probably doesn't vote at all. If he did vote, surely he would have voted for that retard.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: lowbrow] * 1
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lowbrow said:
Trump doesnt even take a presidential salary, hes working for free.


LOOLLLLL!!!

He just takes bribe money openly, and charges $100,000 a month for insider trading tips, whenever he does some kind of crazy bullshit to shock the market, and shake down the economy.

What the fuck are you even fucking saying dude? Its SO STUPID :laugh2:

Are you that much of a sucker? Seriously? Trump is literally 10 Billion dollars richer since taking office...


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: islandsss] * 1
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The TDS is higher today than usual.

And doing that towards a man who doesnt even take a salary to do his job:begone:


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Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: lowbrow] * 1
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Trump has acquired more money through his position as president than any other politician in US history. Whether he does or does not receive a salary would be a moot point on that alone since the salary itself is a rounding error compared to what he's earning by abusing his position, yet even then the reality is that he does receive a salary as can be clearly seen by his federally mandated income disclosure reports.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: PatrickKn]
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But hes working for free and doing everyone a solid by getting the illegal aliens rounded up, poste-haste.


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Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: lowbrow]
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lowbrow said:
The TDS is higher today than usual.

And doing that towards a man who doesnt even take a salary to do his job:begone:


He doesn't need to when he can just exploit the presidency for way more. And you always hear retards complain about how much money people make off speeches or book deals after they leave office. What a bunch of retarded suckers.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: AlChemicalResearch] * 1
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AlChemicalResearch said:
Lynnch said:
I hate to break it to you, but trolls mostly just make themselves look stupid while everyone else laughs.


well considering Kamala wasn't voted for by her party to be the candidate and combined with the democratic antics during covid, not to mention the homofascist tactics surround the trans thing, yes, centrists looked at Kamala and said she is the greater of 2 evils. Thats how incompetent the Democrats are. They got people to view Trump as the lesser of two evils by trying to make him look like the greatest evil of all time, which he's obviously not. Well at least obvious to most people just trying to live their lives.

and no making yourself look stupid to make other people laugh isnt' trolling. its being a comedian or playing the fool, etc. Trolling is person 1 says/does something to person 2 to try to elicit a response from person 3. The is the origins of trolling. If you want to make the argument it turned into just acting like a retard for the sake of humor, because that is kind of what it looks like from the outside, then sure, whatever, that makes you person 2.


What's are these homofascist tactics  you speak of?

I think trump got it because he employed populist rhetoric, and even if he turned out he meant none of it, at least he wasnt the standard corporate shill model of kamala.

She had no pizzazz.

And people are sick of incrementalism.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 2
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Bigbadwooof said:
lowbrow said:
Trump doesnt even take a presidential salary, hes working for free.


LOOLLLLL!!!

He just takes bribe money openly, and charges $100,000 a month for insider trading tips, whenever he does some kind of crazy bullshit to shock the market, and shake down the economy.

What the fuck are you even fucking saying dude? Its SO STUPID :laugh2:

Are you that much of a sucker? Seriously? Trump is literally 10 Billion dollars richer since taking office...


The only reason any billionaire can not have a salary is because they live of loans taken against their wealth to avoid taxes.

Its literally a loophole that only the richest can exploit. Taking no salary is like a tag that you're exploiting loop holes (albeit legal loopholes) and not paying equivalent tax to people who do labour and have a salary.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: sudly] * 2
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lowbrow said:
But hes working for free


To me it's pretty clear he's not working for free if he uses the office to enrich himself and his family, and it's not free if he's legally required to take the federal salary either way, regardless of how he spends it.

He reported $2.2 billion in income for his first year back, three times the year before.

He launched a memecoin three days before the inauguration and pulled $635 million out of it while the people who bought in got wiped out. 635 million in money that couldn't be tracked, reportedly traded for one on one meetings with the president, of which half a dozen public purchasers have had favorable FCC or immigration decisions on since.

His family's crypto company sold half of itself to a UAE royal for $500 million right before he took office, and months later the UAE got cleared for hundreds of thousands of AI chips.

He's hosting the G20 at his own golf resort, and has hosted dozens of government events at his hotels and resorts - he could make the whole years salary in half an event he throws and requires his own vendor lock in for.

He took a $400 million jet from Qatar that's supposed to end up at his library.

He filed a $230 million claim against his own DOJ, to be reviewed by his former defense lawyers.

That's about six million a day just in 2025 alone. Pretty good gig for someone working for free. And that's just tangible legally reported income.

His sons are invested in defense startups that have landed over $3 billion in federal contracts.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: PatrickKn]
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John F Kennedy did the same thing. Trump is following in great footsteps.


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Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: lowbrow]
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lowbrow said:
But hes working for free and doing everyone a solid by getting the illegal aliens rounded up, poste-haste.



like Elon or do you mean Melania?  both entered the country illegally.



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