fahtster said:

Some bvi clone pins in a ziplock

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Hey Faht, is the corner of the bag open a little for air at this stage of fruit development?  Wonderful pinset, should kill it as usual, went from the cube KING to the Pan Master (very quickly in my down time, then I comeback and topia is a ghost town), well done, you know your my favorite grower besides myself

fahtster said:

Some bvi clone pins in a ziplock

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Noah Keeper said:

I don't think the sprayer is the main factor here. My theory is that the mushrooms use a layer of CO2 as a protective barrier against drying out. They release it along the surface of the fruit body. When you have strong or directed airflow, that layer gets blown away, and the exposed surface starts to dry out and abort. Most likely, the mushrooms breathe mainly through the gills or the top of the cap, not through the stipe. That's why my tub works with passive air exchange and no fanning. The CO2 blanket stays in place, the humidity stays stable, and the fruits don't get stressed. It's not about misting too much or too little. It's about protecting that boundary layer.

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Anomalocaris said:

How long and what temp do you think is best to dry pan cyan at?

For cubes I would do pretty much 24h at 165f no matter what. For pans I would guess thats overkill since they are so small

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AZ Starman2112 said:

Anomalocaris said:

How long and what temp do you think is best to dry pan cyan at?

For cubes I would do pretty much 24h at 165f no matter what. For pans I would guess thats overkill since they are so small

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I dry all my stuff at 95f to 113f, but mostly at 95f. Pans I can do in 6-8 hours at 95f in my dehydrator no matter how much I put in there.

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MushLuvR77 said:

fahtster said:

Some bvi clone pins in a ziplock

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Hey Faht, is the corner of the bag open a little for air at this stage of fruit development?  Wonderful pinset, should kill it as usual, went from the cube KING to the Pan Master (very quickly in my down time, then I comeback and topia is a ghost town), well done, you know your my favorite grower besides myself

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Thanks man.  Sorry I haven’t had time lately to respond.

This post breaks the hole and fae sitch down

JoeTherapist said:

fahtster said:

Some bvi clone pins in a ziplock

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I have seen a lot of your stuff. You are the Pan Man. You got any advice for me? I’m going to do ttbvi in zip locks this week. I am going to try to get some local hpoo. I have some but it needs to sit in the sun another month or two. Just curious what you use for sub and casing? I’m sure you have been asked these questions many times, but I see way to much conflicting info. (Links work too if I’m asking something already answered) thank you!!!

I am also going to be doing some trays in a water tub with my next batch of spawn. Should I do that before the zip locks? First time with pans.

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I appreciate the kind words but I’m hardly a master at anything… I’ve been struggling with get a clean pan culture for the last 8 months.  I’d recommend using a method that’s worked out like the jcm if it’s your first time.  Pans are very finicky and I don’t even have the ziplocks nailed down. 

I use a cv+ with 12.5% worm castings mix that’s pasteurized.  I really like it over any hpoo I’ve tried.  It’s way less likely to contaminate… even with slightly bacterial cultures. 

This is my current recipe per 5 x 7 x 2” meal prep tray:

40g coir
1/2 cup verm
1/2 cup worm castings
1.25 cup water
1.25 ml of both true organic and jackpot ferts.

The cv+ is prepared first with the extra water and then the worm castings are added and that’s vac sealed pasteurized (vac bag is immediately opened to let in air after pasteurization and I use it within a day)

This culture is my latest ziplock.. it’s still bacterial from my old plates but still did ok.  Next flushes will look better as is what’s usual with this bacterial infection


Things are looking much much better on the new disposable plates tho.  Excited to get those to grain after another transfer or two

SignedinStranger said:

Open air fruiting, anyone? I had about 1/4 jar of extra spawn to fuck around with so I tried out an unmodified shoebox and a few mushrooms popped up overnight. Let's see what happens with the lid off and a mister blowing on it 24/7. I just to need to find something to attach the hose better.

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Awfullotofshrooms said:

Dang isn’t 165 pretty high?

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Anomalocaris said:

AZ Starman2112 said:

Anomalocaris said:

How long and what temp do you think is best to dry pan cyan at?

For cubes I would do pretty much 24h at 165f no matter what. For pans I would guess thats overkill since they are so small

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I dry all my stuff at 95f to 113f, but mostly at 95f. Pans I can do in 6-8 hours at 95f in my dehydrator no matter how much I put in there.

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What about this idea that some of the enzymes that can reduce potency in the long run are denatured at 160+f? Do you think its a myth?

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