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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 2
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Nichrome said:
seldom seen said:
I think there's some healing going on when the body load hits, like in the physical sense.  Just a sneaking suspicion.  I get cold on bigger doses too, and I get the shakes sometimes.  I do not keep those two elements in the same compartment as body load.



As far as that box...not sure.  Quite ropey but looks like something is off in there.


The body load for me is indeed an obvious healing session. For me it gets deep, both physically and mentally, and I come face to face with my mortal nature. This is often a thicker occurrence with cubes especially in the first 1-2 hours. I puke, I have seizures, I sweat, and I work things out of my lymphatic system. Afterwards I feel empowered and radiant like my body tunes its self before it can be utilized as a fine instrument of reception and transmission.

Long story short, I wholeheartedly agree with you.


I like the long story, much more eloquent than my attempt.  Nothing better than that fine tuned feeling in the aftermath:mushroom2:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: llenaballena] * 2
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llenaballena said:
I am spawning natalensis to bulk at the moment but my jars smell sour. They all have this overlay/fluff on top. Are they contaminated?





All 3 photos are of a single jar, the other jars are alike.


I’m not sure about the top of the jar, but I’m sure it’s ok. From the pics of the sides of the jar, it looks pretty healthy. As for the sour smell, that shouldn’t be. I’d send it to bulk of it were me. You have nothing to lose but coir at this point, so go for it. Ochras are hardy enough and I’d say you’ll get a flush from it. I’d do one of those jars in an unmodified shoebox tote at a 1:2 ratio, with a top layer. All straight FC coir.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AZ Starman2112] * 1
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brominegeek93 said:






how does it look?
I know fanning is frowned upon here, but what about a box that doesn't have any holes?


You can take the lid off to get pictures. It's hard enough to get quality pictures without foggy plastic in the way.

If you're concerned about air exchange you can flip the lid or put a spacer underneath it to raise it a bit.

With the quality of those pictures all I can do is offer you my pictures for you to compare to


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~Agar~ 1000mL water = 1000g water. use ~1% agar...1% of 1000g is 10g.  For cubes, use between 1-2% nutes (10-20g). For pans use 0.5% nutes (5g).

Everything I have typed is purely fiction, and is purely for personal amusement.
All images I've posted are not mine and I am simply posting interesting things I found on the Google.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Sounds kinda like ayahuasca with the vomiting and all that.

I have really only experienced the "after glow" from B+ and it was fantastic. Just felt great physically and mentally. Never get that effect from the 5-6 Ocra trips????


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kunta Kente]
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Hi guys, i'm inoculating 4 quart bags with 40 ml LC, i always end up with a few wet grains that won't colonize pushed against the bag.

I'm pretty sure my rye is dry enough (1-2 hours on a big towel) mixed often, before PC so i'm wondering if i'm using too much LC, if 3.5 hours at 15PSI is enough (full PC with 4 sealed bags)

i'm getting a good pinset by now but i don't want to spawn bacteria, so please let me know how you do it, thanks!



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nokumana] * 3
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Nokumana said:
When it's time to say goodbye to a tub, what do you guys do with the colonized substrate?  Compost bin?  Trash?  Toss it on the garden?

Also, with respect to composting or tossing it in the garden or out into the woods, does anyone worry about mixing these "domesticated" strains with the wild type out there in the world and causing ecological issues?  I don't know if that's a silly and horribly naive question but I think about it. Obviously if you're tossing a variety that won't grow in the natural conditions where you live then it's probably not an issue but conceptually is this something people think about?


Its not naive to question what is morally/ ecologically sound and if theres harm.


The way i see it, if they're not an invasive species (or potentially)that will overwhelm the natural biome. With most of the actives we are growing arent likely to outcompete the indigenous & the benefits of them actually spreading are also woth contemplating....

Hey maybe someone will have there first active forage find, from a disposed tub descendants.    :shrug:



Garden, composte, flower bed, grass, mulch, also reuse old active subs added to edible substrates👌

Edited by LewDoja (03/11/26 07:05 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja]
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Ochra day 5 after spawn to bulk. Probably the fastest colonization I've ever had personally. I've been lightly misting once a day, should I mist more heavy twice a day at this point?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BagShaker]
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BagShaker said:
Hi guys, i'm inoculating 4 quart bags with 40 ml LC, i always end up with a few wet grains that won't colonize pushed against the bag.

I'm pretty sure my rye is dry enough (1-2 hours on a big towel) mixed often, before PC so i'm wondering if i'm using too much LC, if 3.5 hours at 15PSI is enough (full PC with 4 sealed bags)

i'm getting a good pinset by now but i don't want to spawn bacteria, so please let me know how you do it, thanks!






How full are your bags and temp where conlonizing?  Just because some grains are wet doesn't mean they're bacterial (not to say that its not either).


How do you inoculate the sealed bags?

Bacterial wet grains usually will have a milky hue to the liquid surrounding it.

Maybe a tad much on the Lc,  see if you're able to get full colonization with in the same approximate timespan, using less next time. More is not always better unless its patience in this hobby.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Rukus] * 1
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Rukus said:


Ochra day 5 after spawn to bulk. Probably the fastest colonization I've ever had personally. I've been lightly misting once a day, should I mist more heavy twice a day at this point?



I try my hardest not to mist before i've got pinset and even after they're  growing a bit....

If you're needing to, try adjusting your field capacity at spawn or better dialing in of tub... maybe both.

  Could use a bit more leveling out the sub, next round.
Looks like an aggressive culture, enjoy.

Edited by LewDoja (03/11/26 07:22 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja]
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LewDoja said:
Rukus said:


Ochra day 5 after spawn to bulk. Probably the fastest colonization I've ever had personally. I've been lightly misting once a day, should I mist more heavy twice a day at this point?



I try my hardest not to mist before i've got pinset and even after they're  growing a bit....

If you're needing to, try adjusting your field capacity at spawn or better dialing in of tub... maybe both.


Ok I don't think it's dry necessarily, my field capacity was good when I made the sub. I just thought evaporation if water droplets promoted fruiting, or is that old news?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Rukus] * 2
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You're not wrong, but it should be able to do that without needing extra misting Ideally

Misting is a delicate task at this stage, more likely to cause matted myc, which isn't ideal for best pinsets.

Edited by LewDoja (03/11/26 07:27 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja]
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LewDoja said:
You're not wrong, but it should be able to do that without needing extra misting Ideally

Misting is a delicate task at this stage, more likely to cause matted myc, which isn't ideal for best pinsets.


Ok thank you. The field capacity was definitely good when I made the CVG. Maybe I'll just leave it for a couple days and see what happens. This is my first time growing ochras and I'm helicopter growing them I look at the tubs every 15 min lol

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Rukus]
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Haha, it happens to the best of us. Notice how i said "i try not to mist..."

work on dialing in the tub,  tapping holes, adjusting lid gab, etc

modified/unmoded??



Fyi...handling tubs will potentially cause unwanted side/bottom pins.

The flexing of plastic can create perfect microclimates in unwanted places

Edited by LewDoja (03/11/26 07:38 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja]
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LewDoja said:
Haha, it happens to the best of us. Notice how i said "i try not to mist..."


work on dialing in the tub,  tapping holes, adjusting lid gab, etc

modified/unmoded??


I appreciate the time you are taking to chat with me about this.

I have them in two shoe boxes. The lids are sitting on top but not latched down. The humidity that I initially sprayed on the sides of the shoebox are for the most part still there except for the side that faces the room where it's warmest.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Rukus] * 1
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Im team modified shoebox, and can always tape up the holes more if needed

Also the staggering of elevation of the holes create covection currents allowing passive evaporation whilst not over drying.

Its a balancing act, think about FAE... as Fresh Air & Evaporation (balance)

Edited by LewDoja (03/11/26 07:46 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja] * 1
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LewDoja said:
Im team modified shoebox, and can always tape up the holes more if needed

Also the staggering of elevation of the holes create covection currents allowing passive evaporation whilst not over drying


Ok that makes sense I'll definitely look into it. My cubes always have quite a bit of fuzzy feet so I believe FAE is low on my grows normally. My house is quite dry this time of year I just worry about them drying out too fast.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja]
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Hi, and thank you. 4 liters so 4.25 quart per bag, i'd say a little over half full.
Now i'm colonizing jars/bags at 75F, used to do 77-79 but it feels more safe at 75-76.

i colonized inside a SAB, throught the top of bag (sprayed with iso and wiped just before) without an injection port, flaming the needle outside the sab, right before sealing the bag again with a seal bar. now i'm putting SHIPs with heat resistant silicone to be extra safe, before PCing.



i always seem to feel a subtle sour smell when i shake bags even before the wet grains at the last stage, but i'm not really sure it's off, because che colonization, knotting and pinning seem fine to me





should i be worried? i feel like i'm doing a sterile colonization but maybe my bought lcs had a very little contam inside that leads me to this, or you tell me :grin:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BagShaker]
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Ahhh for starters have you tested your Boughten LC on agar?

Look into sslc and make your own.

I thought you sealed your bags before PC.

Ships could pose a new vector for contamination, when ever i,.rarely use them, i besure to keep ship sterile until right before using.under tyvek filter.


Also id say the temp is on the high side as the bag gets more colonized it will be warmer than ambient, through metabolic processes.

How many flushes have you been getting? If anything to worry about i wager not more than 2 before triched out.

Edited by LewDoja (03/11/26 08:06 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja] * 1
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no sorry, i do seal bags before PC, than seal again just under where i injected. It's my second attempt at monotubs and mycology in general so i never had a proper second flush, i got only side pins for like 4 months with my first monos :grin:

I did test every LC on agar, and the Lcs i made from the bought LC and seemed fine to me, will post some pic tomorrow

what do you think about my bag pics? concerning? ty!

i just looked into SSLC and seems awesome!
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26689470 i'm just missing what kind of agar add to the broth

Edited by BagShaker (03/11/26 10:56 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BagShaker]
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Hey man I'm a noob myself but from my understanding you need to use .5 micron bags if you're going to pre-seal, as opposed to the standard .2 or you will probably get some rupture or leaks.

I highly recommend using name brand unicorn bags, they are the industry standard for commercial mushroom cultivation. I get them on etsy for a good price. I use 10t-inj bags which have the self-healing injection port built in. I do not pre-seal as the nature of pressure cooking the bags creates a hermetic seal and I use my impulse sealer once they have cooled overnight inside the cooker. There are lots of teks on here and youtube regarding this, I would generally recommend avoiding YouTube unless its a channel from a TC here but prepping bags is pretty straightforward.

Once my bags are cooled and sealed I blast them with 10cc of LC from a trusted vendor, shake it, and call it a day. Spawn to a tub with two 650g bricks of coco bliss hydrated with 4.25ml water per gram of dry coir per stipe 'n caps pseudo-casing tek, 30 days later you're tripping balls. Done deal.

Hope this helps!


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