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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Libertycap97]
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After a few years at this I still struggle with reading mushroom vs mold mycelium on agar.  Took a plate that looked like even organized growth on the plate and put to grain.  Now I suspect I'm growing a lovely jar of something other than mushroom myc.  QQ: Is this jar mold or mushrooms?



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Libertycap97]
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Libertycap97 said:
QQ: I've a quart of colonized spawn and I'm thinking of using 150g dried of coir soaked in 450ml of water (my loose coir is over field capacity anything above 3.5 x water).

Would this be a good ratio?


It's my understanding that this is too high a ratio of spawn.  You are better off measuring your field capacity coir in volume and using a 1:2 ratio for suspect spawn or higher, up to 1:4, for clean spawn.  1 quart spawn to 2-4 quarts field capacity coir.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LyleChipperson]
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I harvested my tub around 2 weeks ago, and after doing so I punishd the sub and have left it to do its thing. Left the sub with around a half inch water and it absorbed it all immediately. I have been occasionally misting and there appear to be pins, but I think they were already there at harvest or just after.

I was hoping for a 2nd flush because the first wasn't so promising (small, short fruits). What is the timeline for 2nd flush? What is around the max time that these may take to grow again? Do I even need to be misting much during this time?

Ty to any of those who respond :mushroom2:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MetalPro] * 2
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MetalPro said:
After a few years at this I still struggle with reading mushroom vs mold mycelium on agar.  Took a plate that looked like even organized growth on the plate and put to grain.  Now I suspect I'm growing a lovely jar of something other than mushroom myc.  QQ: Is this jar mold or mushrooms?





To me that does look very mold like


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MetalPro]
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It's currently about 1:1. So I should double my bulk substrate (coir) volume?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 2
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Smellyhobbit said:
MetalPro said:
After a few years at this I still struggle with reading mushroom vs mold mycelium on agar.  Took a plate that looked like even organized growth on the plate and put to grain.  Now I suspect I'm growing a lovely jar of something other than mushroom myc.  QQ: Is this jar mold or mushrooms?





To me that does look very mold like


might even say mold-y :wink:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MetalPro] * 2
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I’d like to know what genetics you’re growing and to see the plate you took the wedge from.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: The Tao]
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The Tao said:
I’d like to know what genetics you’re growing and to see the plate you took the wedge from.


my thoughts exactly, or how long it took to become like that...if that erupted suddenly...:sad:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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Smellyhobbit said:
Anyone have info on shakti silver?


I got it from P57 on Discord. It was originally advertised as just Shakti per his giveaway, but came with "Silver" added to the name on the original swab set I then sent to you. So far, I'm just keeping that name with it. I'll see what additional info he has.

There's some basic info here.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mackload]
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Thanks for confirming - at least I only wasted one jar, thought about doing 4...

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MetalPro]
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Top right corner. Is that pin mold?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MushMush9]
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towndaze said:
I could've sworn I asked this before but apparently not: Is there a reason cooking your stuff in a rice cooker wouldn't work or in fact be ideal? Acquaintance has this massive rice cooker and the triple threat of intact grain, thorough hydration and even chew seems near identical.


Im pretty sure you meant the prep and not sterilization, and id be willing to bet  a rice cooker slightly over cooks your grains. Worth a try imo, but I think manual hydration is always the best bet.

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Second flush of GT. Only got two shrooms and they started shriveling before the veil broke. Any advice? My substrate is also shrinking so I'm guessing it's underhydrated.

I followed Bod's Easy AF Harvesting TEK https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24198162. Only had a small container so it was full of water for only a few minutes. Does it need to soak for hours? And want to confirm I should be able to just neglect after the soak, no misting needed?


Looks like a case of pseudomonas to me. Id start over, but if you read up on proper surface conditions you may be able to squeeze a second flush worth something


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: luminilis]
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luminilis said:
I harvested my tub around 2 weeks ago, and after doing so I punishd the sub and have left it to do its thing. Left the sub with around a half inch water and it absorbed it all immediately. I have been occasionally misting and there appear to be pins, but I think they were already there at harvest or just after.

I was hoping for a 2nd flush because the first wasn't so promising (small, short fruits). What is the timeline for 2nd flush? What is around the max time that these may take to grow again? Do I even need to be misting much during this time?

Ty to any of those who respond :mushroom2:


Hey buddy,

Short answer: 10-16 days sometimes. Depends on what exactly you're growing.

Sometimes you don't get a proper "flush" afterwards...

if you want some data points

I've got 2 shoeboxes going right now that I harvested first flush and punished (rubbing off all the pins with my bare hands while spraying) on Feb 26th and Feb 28th, they are getting bigger in one tub, a bit stringy in the other.


I've pulled 7.8 dry and then another 70-80 fresh in the dehydrator now. They just been trickling.





I'll probably stop the stringy tub after these last ones mature and then the other tub that's producing larger fruits (the one is pushing against the lid lol) I'll keep an eye on for another week or so


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Archespore]
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Can I just save unused agar “fluid” in the jar and then reheat it when I have more empty plates? If so, how long do I have? Could I just microwave it to warm it up since it’s sealed or do I need to PC it again?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ihansterx4i] * 1
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Yeah, you can microwave agar to remelt it and use later. I usually pour the whole bottle, but I often make more than one at a time and let the unused ones cool for later microwaving. I've used them many, many months (probably over a year :lol:) later.

Only concern I'd have about saving a partial bottle is possible contamination from being open while pouring - but that would probably be obvious on the solid surface of the leftover agar before you reheat it.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Peleus] * 1
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Peleus said:
Top right corner. Is that pin mold?




This is getting buried so I'll take a shot:  I'm not convinced that is mold.  To my eye it looks like a stray piece of colonized grain that broke off and is trying desperately to colonize what it can.  I could be wrong on that one, but I certainly wouldn't do anything drastic yet.  Just keep an eye on it.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Mr Piggy said:
This is getting buried so I'll take a shot:  I'm not convinced that is mold.  To my eye it looks like a stray piece of colonized grain that broke off and is trying desperately to colonize what it can.  I could be wrong on that one, but I certainly wouldn't do anything drastic yet.  Just keep an eye on it.


Thanks for taking a look Piggy. I've scooped it out and will put it under my amateur scope later this week. It's a cheap chinese scope, so dunno if I have enough magnification on the thing to see clearly. If it is mold though, I might get the answer soon from the tub itself

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Peleus] * 1
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If I want to use grain water from grain prep to make my agar, how does one calculate how much GW to use in the agar recipe?

Edit:I'm seeing 50% GW and 50% straight water for agar. What say ye?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: san pedro guy] * 2
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san pedro guy said:
Nichrome said:
Should someone remove sunflower seeds when using WBS for spawn that will be used directly and not expanded?




I take out sunflower seeds like I take out the yellow bits in capt crunch

Quick question:
If I drop a plate pin straight to grains, will it mess up the genetics if the cap opens or does it not matter because there are already spores in the cap by the time it forms? 

thanks


I have no idea, I never do this. I always drop it onto a new plate and then do a few transfers before going to grain. Honestly just due to paranoia and force of habit, I know I could always just snag and plate a grain later to preserve the genetics. But I will say that I've got culture lines I've sequentially cloned from plate pins multiple times, so the genetics are pretty consistent and dialed in. And I've wondered, whenever I've pulled sporulating plate pins to clone, whether I've reset the clock to some extent. I've wondered the samw thing when taking regular wedges from plates that have sporulated pins in them. In my experience/judgement, I don't think I have. Everything seems to be the same genetics-wise. I think the established and active myc is just so far ahead of the spores that they don't really have much of an effect on things.

On the subject of black oil sunflower seeds, I also have no idea because I don't use WBS. But if I did, I'd probably renove them. I'd be too afraid that the shrooms ai grew on them would make me trip out and experience something like Kafka's "Metamorphosis," except I'd think I was turning into a finch.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: B Traven] * 1
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dang, I followed that post back and didnt see it was 3+ years.....I thought rotn' came back for a minute:sad:

I never throw the sunflower seeds, sometimes ill scoop all the floaters out and make them their own jar

Edited by stagger (03/09/26 10:02 AM)

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