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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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Can anyone recommend a good brand of WBS that I can get from Amazon, chewy, or a pet/big box store? What should I look for when purchasing WBS? I'm looking to make the switch from oats.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: RhyzoPhreak]
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RhyzoPhreak said:
Can anyone recommend a good brand of WBS that I can get from Amazon, chewy, or a pet/big box store? What should I look for when purchasing WBS? I'm looking to make the switch from oats.


Pennington brand. Milo, millet, wheat. No cracked corn. Light on sunflower seeds. It is on walmart, ebay, chewy, and petsmart. If you like it later on you can sign up for autoship and get a few bags to qualify for free shipping + ~35% off.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: arlo.arlo] * 2
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Pennington classic fucks hard

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Ovoidhunter] * 12
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Pennington Classic got my wife pregnant and cured my nail infection


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 1
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Anybody fucks with Azure Standard?
I ordered once and the pickup process was interesting.
This is a good deal.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ModularMind]
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I love you heathens.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kunta Kente]
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Kunta Kente said:
EmeraldDream20 said:
Other experiments,
PC 45 mins, then vent right after it's done. Let sit 8 hours before opening it. Venting out most of the hot steam.


No. No venting at all after running a pressure cooker cycle. It should have no steam pressure at all before messing with it.

Force venting after it runs, especially immediately after, would create a very forceful vacuum inside any cavity in the vessel. Even if you have a filter patched hole on a lid it would suck down hard on that, which could compromise the filter. It's just really not good to do.

Opening after 30 to 60m is no issue at all. All the pressure should be relieved by then and you just have hot jars. It shouldn't 'vent' at all. You don't want to rapid cool them (again, that creates a pressure differential which causes the jars to suck in outside air), but removing them from the pot and letting them cool in the air is fine.



So first you say... No venting. Then you say. OPening after 30, 60 mins after cycle is fine. This would include venting first, to reduce pressure, before opening it. So which is it?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ModularMind] * 1
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I’m moving my first steps in this wonderful world and I made 4 PF-Tek jars. Two of them look fine to me and are almost fully colonized, but these other two (pics attached) are making me nervous.

- One stopped colonizing or anyway it’s been significantly behind schedule with respect to the others. Bacteria contam?
- The other one has what to my untrained eyes look like two different myceliums meeting. Mold contam?

Thanks to anyone that can give me an opinion! Long time lurker and this is my first post :smile:



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: RhyzoPhreak] * 1
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RhyzoPhreak said:
Can anyone recommend a good brand of WBS that I can get from Amazon, chewy, or a pet/big box store? What should I look for when purchasing WBS? I'm looking to make the switch from oats.


Supreme buffet 100%.
It’s cheap, and clean af. I don’t even rinse it.
The onetime I bought Pennington from Walmart, pretty sure it was Pennington anyway, it was dirty as fuck with tons of sand.
Supreme buffet all the way homie.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: EmeraldDream20] * 3
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Your pressure cooker is not still under pressure 60 minutes after the heat is turned off. It will be hot but you will not be venting pressurized steam at that point.

Why are you wasting everyone's time with this repeated question? Everyone who has answered uses a pressure canner all the time. Your not accepting their consistent answers is getting really annoying.

Go try to grow some mushrooms. If the jars you think are overcooked don't grow anything, then use the non-pressurized pot steaming method detailed in every PF tek writeup out there until you learn how to use your pressure cooker. If you can't follow clear instructions, you are going to have a really bad time at this hobby.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: xsdd]
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xsdd said:
I’m moving my first steps in this wonderful world and I made 4 PF-Tek jars. Two of them look fine to me and are almost fully colonized, but these other two (pics attached) are making me nervous.

- One stopped colonizing or anyway it’s been significantly behind schedule with respect to the others. Bacteria contam?
- The other one has what to my untrained eyes look like two different myceliums meeting. Mold contam?

Thanks to anyone that can give me an opinion! Long time lurker and this is my first post :smile:





Neither of the two colonies in the second jar look like mold to my eyes - just different morphology (remember each hole is getting a different set of spores/genetics).

As for the first one, hard to really know. Spores take a variable time to germinate, and you may have just gotten fewer spores in that jar. Could be weak culture or contaminated. Just kinda have to wait and see.

Do you have a tiny little fruiting chamber ready or are you planning to fruit them individually with baggies?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Phaethon]
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Never gonna work with them 4oz jars.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Phaethon]
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Phaethon said:
xsdd said:
I’m moving my first steps in this wonderful world and I made 4 PF-Tek jars. Two of them look fine to me and are almost fully colonized, but these other two (pics attached) are making me nervous.

- One stopped colonizing or anyway it’s been significantly behind schedule with respect to the others. Bacteria contam?
- The other one has what to my untrained eyes look like two different myceliums meeting. Mold contam?

Thanks to anyone that can give me an opinion! Long time lurker and this is my first post :smile:





Neither of the two colonies in the second jar look like mold to my eyes - just different morphology (remember each hole is getting a different set of spores/genetics).

As for the first one, hard to really know. Spores take a variable time to germinate, and you may have just gotten fewer spores in that jar. Could be weak culture or contaminated. Just kinda have to wait and see.

Do you have a tiny little fruiting chamber ready or are you planning to fruit them individually with baggies?



First, good choice with 4oz jars. Also in reply to the ModularMind post, actually 4oz jars do work great. I've had many successful grows with 4oz jars. The benefits of using 4oz jars, is they colonize very fast. Just be sure to dunk then because they can dehydrate more easily during steam sterilization, but I've had great success even without dunks.

4oz jars, do work great and are my preferred jar size for pf-tek, due to the fast colonization.

Now about your query, the brown rice flour you have, looks more like grit than powder/flour.

I would suggest, buying a Walmart brand (cheap, generic) coffee grinder, and use it exclusively for blending brown rice. (non-gmo, organic).

The Coffee Grinders are great at auto-re-mixing the powder, so you don't have to shake it a bunch to get it all evenly blended.

Your vermiculite, looks rather naked. It should be coated in a fine layer of brown rice.

See, when the brown rice is covering the wet vermiculite, it causes the moisture to be better held inside the verm, with the brown rice flour acting as a moisture barrier.

So, basically your brown rice is too big in chunks, it should be fine like at least sand or better yet as powder. Your brown rice is like... way to big in chunks. It will take a longer time for the mycelium to digest it, and your chunky brown rice isn't providing moisture protection like finer powder does.


So for your next grow, make your brown rice, more like fine powder, or at least like sand. Your brown rice is way to big/chunky.

Third, your two mycelium types are just two types meeting, tomentose and rhyzomorphic. Tomentose is the left mycelium, airy, whispy, weakish thin threads. The right mycelium is rhyzomorphic, very strong and ropey.

It's just two types of mycelium, meeting, but both are legit cubensis mycelium and look great.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: EmeraldDream20]
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Pf tek  can take a really long time sometimes. So just give that one jar that's lacking time before you give up on it.

If you head over to the cake war 2025 thread you'll see how long it's taking many of members in that competition to get to fruits. It's been a couple months.




+1 to 4oz jars absolutely will work fine.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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In regards to working with a Flowood or ffu.


I'm making the transition now. Im Finally extremely confident over the past 2 years with my sab work and sterile technique.

And I'm ready to move on to using bags without being hindered by a sab.





** It is okay to hover briefly over things?

But not in between the filter/flow and whatever you're working on?

Is this correct?




**can you work anywhere with it? Like in any room? (Meaning any random room that hasn't been cleaned or whatever)

** Outside? (not that I ever would. but just curious)



** are air drafts and currents still an issue?

should I still be turning off the AC/fans and covering door cracks and stuff like that to keep my work area still? Or is that only necessary in the sab?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie] * 2
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I don't worry much about hovering over stuff in front of the FFU. You do have to be careful to keep dirty stuff out of the flow between the filter and what you want to keep sterile.

I use it in a carpeted room, and I'm not meticulous about keeping it super clean. There are vents in the room and I don't bother turning off the central air, but they are pretty far from the FFU. I think it would take a pretty large current to overcome the flow in front of the filter. Bear in mind that all of your work is to be done within like 6 inches of the filter face. You can probably get away with 9 or 12, but the further you get away, the more you risk the air being turbulent or mixed with nonsterile air.

Never used mine outside...but I'd be willing to bet it worked just fine. Might wear out your filter faster depending on the season and winds (how much pollen and dust is in the air).

BTW, good idea to use a furnace filter as a pre-filter. Get a high quality one (what you would use for your own furnace) that's large enough to cover the intake, and attach it (I use a few strips of painter's tape). That traps the larger particles so your HEPA filter doesn't have to do as much work and lasts longer.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Phaethon]
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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Thanks!! So it sounds like they are ok

Phaethon said:
Do you have a tiny little fruiting chamber ready or are you planning to fruit them individually with baggies?


My plan is to wait for consolidation and then SGFC. From what I understood, it should allow for more surface area => better yields

EmeraldDream20 said:
See, when the brown rice is covering the wet vermiculite, it causes the moisture to be better held inside the verm, with the brown rice flour acting as a moisture barrier.



Best explanation I’ve heard. I’ll try with the coffee grinder next time, I wasn’t happy with those chunks either

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: xsdd]
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Try using a water tub instead. Just make sure that the box isn’t too big, there should be just enough room for fruits to grow.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LyleChipperson]
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QQ: I've a quart of colonized spawn and I'm thinking of using 150g dried of coir soaked in 450ml of water (my loose coir is over field capacity anything above 3.5 x water).

Would this be a good ratio?


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