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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nokumana] * 1
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Nokumana said:
Okay ladies and gents, I'm ready to go to bulk!  I think I'll be sending at least (my first) two jars tonight.

I prepped some coir last night (H2O = 4.25 x the coco bliss brick weight), boiled and soaked overnight (see the HHG for deets). This morning the coir was too dry. Like I could not, with all my strength, squeeze a drop out. I added 500cc of RO H2O , capped the bucket, gave it a shake, and left for work.

The question: What do all you geniuses feel is the best practice for hydrating coir up to field capacity when the initial water calc comes up short?  Should it be hot, cold, does it matter?  Etc. Please discuss....




you did it exactly right .  the metric i use is supposed to start you off dry and then you can add some water. you did this perfectly.

Edited by BeefExtreme (02/03/26 07:24 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: B Traven]
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B Traven said:
I do the exact opposite: one massive pour of boiling water straight from the stove. Immediately seal the lid of the bucket and put in the cooler. Let the steaming and recondensing water do all the mixing work for me.



Yes, that's what I did last night :grin:  Poured the water, sealed it up in my PC, and left it until morning.  But in this case, like our friend above, in the morning I had under-hydrated coir for whatever reason.

At least - as Beef says in his video - it's easy to add more water, but much harder work to remove excess water.  Stirring felt like the right thing to do when I was just topping it up.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme]
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Spotted some bacteria producing condensation at the top of my quart jars on the glass. Bacteria is yellowish color and about a millimeter wide.

Any suggestions? Trying to upload a picture currently. Wouldn't it be cool if you could kill the bacteria with cold/heat/light that is just on that one area of the glass?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Libertycap97]
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Definitely want pics. Would be cool, but not sure it's a thing right now. :shrug:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mackload]
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Good news, i hope.

I moved the tub with my quarts away from radiator at foot of my bed to top of a closet and the condensation has vanished from one and reduced a lot on the other.
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I know heat mats are a no go, i take it that beside radiators is this same idea. Also bottom of my bed is probably a shitty place for it to getting covered in contams.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Libertycap97] * 1
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would this be a good set up?the containers at the bottom being ultrasonic humidifiers and a pc cooler on top
my room has this arc that connects to the next room but its blocked on the other side by some furniture, my plan is to plastic seal to prevent humidity damage that side
only the white is the existing room
sry not really good at blender but i think it gets the point across


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Ikarus21] * 1
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On the subject of coir. I have noticed that each brand has its own water ratio to bring them to capacity or near capacity.

I have found out by trail and error at least 2 brands.

ECO-Earth  --> 375
Legigo  --> 250

Whatever the ratio I do the math like this.

Put a '.00' in front of the ratio and multiply by grams of dry coir. The result will be your water in liters.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DV8DUG]
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is there anything wrong with double boiling the coir until field capacity if a bit overwet?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Ikarus21]
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It's not wrong, but you'll have to squeeze out the excess moisture again. If you use soaking wet coir, the bottom will colonize badly.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Churpee Choozle]
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I think he meant using a double boiler not to boil twice.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DV8DUG]
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My cakes are almost 100% colonized, I have 6 that will be ready to birth and dunk next weekend.

I'm getting my fruiting chamber ready and I wonder what the consensus is on SGFC vs Water tub.

I live in a cold area, my cakes have been kept at a steady 68*f temp. I like the idea of the water tub as I won't have to mess with perlite and won't need to poke a million holes in a storage tote. However, since I live in the frozen wasteland that is Connecticut in the winter, I worry that the stagnant water will get too cold and chill my little guys out.

Opinions?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: jeffreykite]
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I would go the route of the water tub, much easier all around. 68 degrees is fine for growing cubes:mushroom2:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Agar Wedge] * 2
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been thinkin for years i want a cider press to make perfect coir every time.  just throw 5x water weight in, then press it to preference.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme] * 3
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thought about making one with a scissor jack.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme]
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BeefExtreme said:
been thinkin for years i want a cider press to make perfect coir every time.  just throw 5x water weight in, then press it to preference.



I considered the concept, but didn't realize this was already a tool for other applications. Pretty rad!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DV8DUG]
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:iamderp:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme] * 1
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BeefExtreme said:
been thinkin for years i want a cider press to make perfect coir every time.  just throw 5x water weight in, then press it to preference.



Duc 'n Bug that shit, STAT.

Seriously, I am all in T
To develop that idea with you. I added an extra 500cc to my coir which yesterday I thought was too dry. Got home from work last night to find I could squeeze a pretty steady stream of water out of it, and decided to start again. So frustrated I lost sleep over it! 

I left the wet coir out in a bucket with the lid off in the hopes that it'll dry out enough over a couple of days to use for the next set of jars.


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Edited by Nokumana (02/03/26 09:59 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nokumana] * 6
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Pour some dry verm in there and get to growing!!

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Libertycap97]
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Hard to see what's happening,  more pics? And you mean you spawned tubs or have jars in tubs? :shrug:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DV8DUG] * 1
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DV8DUG said:
On the subject of coir. I have noticed that each brand has its own water ratio to bring them to capacity or near capacity.

I have found out by trail and error at least 2 brands.

ECO-Earth  --> 375
Legigo  --> 250

Whatever the ratio I do the math like this.

Put a '.00' in front of the ratio and multiply by grams of dry coir. The result will be your water in liters.



Thanks for this. I bought a 20 pack of Legigo in December. That package was stolen. Amazon replaced it then my neighbor found the stolen package behind the dumpster. I don't like using verm but have been using mountains to soak up the excess water. Thank you for saving me time on the hydration trial and error. Bummed I have 40 bricks of shit coir. At least I only paid for half of them.


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