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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy] * 5
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Dry still air box and torch on recently cleaned table surface, completely good to go.


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy] * 9
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“Has anyone tried blasting a can of moving air into their still air box?”

I’m being a little silly and hopefully not too critical,  but I do see this a lot. People trying to change processes and reinvent things that already work so well it may as well be actual magic.

You can take a $10 tote from Walmart, put arm holes in it, and do lab grade sterile work on your kitchen counter. The universe is on your side. No need to complicate things


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 1
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If you're having issues using the same equipment that most successful people are using, the equipment is not the issue.

It almost always comes down to being able to be self critical and adjust your technique, not your tools.

There are no shortcuts, just invest in doing steady and good clean work using standard equipment like still air boxes made from tubs.


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 4
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Smellyhobbit said:
“Has anyone tried blasting a can of moving air into their still air box?”

I’m being a little silly and hopefully not too critical,  but I do see this a lot. People trying to change processes and reinvent things that already work so well it may as well be actual magic.

You can take a $10 tote from Walmart, put arm holes in it, and do lab grade sterile work on your kitchen counter. The universe is on your side. No need to complicate things




I am going on record and saying yes I did! Remember back when I had a FFU in my 5x9 grow tent where I was doing all my grows and work in? I was blasting all kids of air in a giant SAB! Thanks to the community for sorting me out! Learn from my mistakes.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 4
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I think there's a tendency, when getting into something new that involves unfamiliar equipment, to misunderstand the significance of said equipment. Perhaps just calling it all "tools" would be more accurate. Even a pressure cooker is still just a tool, a fancy pot with a sealing lid.

Most things, at the end of the day, are like a pencil. If you write something that sucks or get an answer wrong on a test, it's not because you need a better pencil.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy] * 1
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Mr Piggy said:
Splittinghairs said:
Did you put a towel down with soapy water and mist the walls with soapy water?




That's completely unnecessary, running a box dry is perfectly fine and a lot of TCs do it including me.



Well that’s good to hear. Something I had definetly seen mentioned on here before and have been doing it for a long time.

At least using a rack is still recommended I would think?

Splittinghairs said:
You can even get away with Broke Boi Tek



:justno:

Absolutely not, that is garbage and not sufficient.



Yes. It’s garbage. Was it my way in before finding shroomery? Yes. Was it a better option than premade grains? I’m going to say yes. Which was my only point had I not spelled it out clearer. My bad.

Is it ridiculous and absolute dog shit with all the other good tried and true methods running around shroomery? Damn right.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Splittinghairs] * 5
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Yeah I'm not trying to harsh on you at all, I am just always going to slap that garbage down when I see it mentioned, especially in a newbie advice area.  I just want to be extra clear so that grifter doesn't get any more traction :thumbup:


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy]
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lol. No. I totally get that.

It’s a cringe thought that I even started there. But YouTube and Reddit were easier places to “find information” and took me a solid year of mediocre growing before I stumbled on this place.

And it’s completely justified to make sure it gets the pee pee slap it deserves.

PLEASE STAY OFF REDDIT AND YOUTUBE!!

But I do have a legit question with the soapy water. Are you saying no towel and no soapy water? Just a good ISO wipe down will suffice?

I was legit also asking about the racks. If it’s one less step to take I’m willing to do it.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy] * 4
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Almost ever issue I’ve ever had in my SAB was due to me being careless and bumping the box or hovering over my plates/jars. I was thinking it was not cleaning my SAB enough, but it was just my movements.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Splittinghairs] * 4
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Actually, I've come to see the iso wipe-down as a little counter-productive. Generates fumes, which push air around.

I don't think you should be trying to eliminate steps in your SAB at this stage. It's about a working technique that you find intuitive and effective. I personally like the soapy water spray-down and my racks. There are so many little details in how people arrange and carry out their sterile work. And the environments they're working in. I'm constantly moving stuff in and out of my SAB, not waiting at all after disturbing the air, dropping shit on the floor and leaving it there, etc. So I like the extra comfort of knowing I sprayed the air and walls to make dust fall down and/or stick. I also like using the lid of my SAB as a "floor." But then, see, I'm working on a wire shelf, not a solid tabletop. It all just depends, and you really gotta figure out your own flow for yourself.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Breadly710]
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Breadly710 said:
Almost ever issue I’ve ever had in my SAB was due to me being careless and bumping the box or hovering over my plates/jars. I was thinking it was not cleaning my SAB enough, but it was just my movements.



I'm embarrassed to admit that my worst results were obtained back when I was religiously scrubbing the walls of my SAB. Not that I think the cleaning CAUSED the problems. That was definitely more due to my shitty sterile technique, working in a shower stall, and spraying my SAB with <shudder> LYSOL.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy] * 1
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Mr Piggy said:
Splittinghairs said:
Did you put a towel down with soapy water and mist the walls with soapy water?




That's completely unnecessary, running a box dry is perfectly fine and a lot of TCs do it including me.

Splittinghairs said:
You can even get away with Broke Boi Tek



:justno:

Absolutely not, that is garbage and not sufficient.



I fuckin luvs ya bro :lmafo:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Splittinghairs] * 2
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Splittinghairs said:
lol. No. I totally get that.

It’s a cringe thought that I even started there. But YouTube and Reddit were easier places to “find information” and took me a solid year of mediocre growing before I stumbled on this place.

And it’s completely justified to make sure it gets the pee pee slap it deserves.

PLEASE STAY OFF REDDIT AND YOUTUBE!!

But I do have a legit question with the soapy water. Are you saying no towel and no soapy water? Just a good ISO wipe down will suffice?

I was legit also asking about the racks. If it’s one less step to take I’m willing to do it.



This is where the real growers chill. And sometimes we get a lil hate for it. Is what it is. 

You know what they say, "those who can, do. Those who can't, teach."

I throw out some ramblings when i have the time or motivation..... :shrug:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: funkmastakush]
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I was just hoping I wouldn’t have to shell out more money for a pressure cooker and the like with all the startup costs. I have an instant pot but from what I’ve seen it’s not sufficient for sterilizing. What are your thoughts on that? I’d be using bags instead of jars for ease of use

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: InfidelGI] * 1
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A pressure cooker is an essential tool for the hobby. Make your life easier... get a pressure cooker.

Valve over jiggle weight.


Grain and substrate from a vendor is gonna be just as much of a crap shoot as anything you make while learning. But you'll save money and learn a skill.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LotKid] * 1
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Smellyhobbit said:
“Has anyone tried blasting a can of moving air into their still air box?”

I’m being a little silly and hopefully not too critical,  but I do see this a lot. People trying to change processes and reinvent things that already work so well it may as well be actual magic.

You can take a $10 tote from Walmart, put arm holes in it, and do lab grade sterile work on your kitchen counter. The universe is on your side. No need to complicate things



I only asked because it was a tek from a TC https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/29039818 and figured there might be some validity to it. Yeah but now that I think about it, just the classic dry SAB route with two arm holes is stinkin easy enough! Simplicity is better!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Mr Piggy said:


Dry still air box and torch on recently cleaned table surface, completely good to go.



Hey man, any tips on sourcing a nice stainless steel table like that without going bankrupt? Yours looks perfect.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: B Traven] * 2
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B Traven said:
I'm embarrassed to admit that my worst results were obtained back when I was religiously scrubbing the walls of my SAB. Not that I think the cleaning CAUSED the problems. That was definitely more due to my shitty sterile technique, working in a shower stall, and spraying my SAB with <shudder> LYSOL.



I wipe dust out and spray it, but I stopped iso and wiping a bunch. I clean my rack and table much more than my SAB and have had clean results when my technique is on point.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: funkmastakush] * 2
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Resident Noob here.

I found that having a "permanent" place for my SAB lowered my rate of failure. Setting it up every time I wanted to work must have been stirring things up in the air. I probably wasn't waiting long enough for the SAB to settle out either. Mine has been setup for 2+ months now. It's nice to be able to go over and work without having to wipe everything down and blah blah blah.

I wanted to share my experience since I was overcoming these issues not too long ago. Oh and I started out with the wet method, too. Scrap it. I run it dry with a baking rack in the bottom so shit has somewhere to go if I drop it. One more thing... I got a clear rubber mat for under my SAB. Makes a good seal and nothing slides on the folding table I have as a workspace.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LotKid] * 1
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The cheap affordable material to make your own grains/agar is what has allowed me to learn from all the YouTube Reddit stupidity engrained into my thick ass head.

Plus the agar part is really cool to watch grow and stages of contamination to clean.

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