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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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callmehippie said:
23 Court Presto with the jiggle. And the new and updated rubber gasket not the OLD  shitty one that was super annoying to put back in.

I imagine nobody's got those old gaskets anymore. But you never know.


Gas stove top burner. Flames turned pretty much all the way down.



Okay, that's what i thought. You could have a gasket issue but also, jiggle weight let steam escape so your run time gets limited compared to the valve style because of this.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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Weird , so after 90 minutes I'm usually down to little over a qt /qt n a half of water left


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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I'll givev that a shot. Thanks cron. I have been wondering about if it has something to do with how long the valve takes  to pop up and vent.

One time I even used a small napkin pop it up myself. Which is why I thought hey if I could do that why hadn't it done it on its own.

I did check the tiny little white gasket on the valve but I haven't lubed that. Maby I'll buy a new one of those as well.

Everything is pretty new though so I don't think it's the gasket. But I'm definitely going to check everything cuz it's very very frustrating and I hate feeling uneasy that im  going to mess my up my  PC every time I use it.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: cronicr] * 1
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cronicr said:
Weird , so after 90 minutes I'm usually down to little over a qt /qt n a half of water left



So it would seem that if I have to go longer than that I'm risking losing the rest right?




Cuz that's about the water loss I also experience after 90 minutes.

At least ever since I added the extra weight to the jiggle.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: cronicr] * 3
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My first ever pins!!!! I’m pretty sure they are pins.
I am doing a PF Tek in pp5 containers. These are obviously ready to dunk, right? Should I be delicate with the pins or will they be fine after getting covered in coco coir?




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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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I have no idea what you're talking about with the old gasket, but anyway.

There's a pretty short list of potential leak points:

From around the gasket, either due to improper seating or warped metal. I don't like the sound of vegetable oil or petroleum jelly, by the way. It's not about lubing the gasket, it's about keeping it supple. I use mineral oil, and I believe that's both the gold standard and actually recommended in the manual.

The overpressure plug- again, improper seating, etc. Should also be kept clean and treated with mineral oil to keep it supple replaced at the same time as the gasket, etc.

The locking mechanism- probably more likely to be an issue of a loose connection, though I've never experienced any issues there myself.

The pressure gauge- there's the possibility of a loose nut there, worn thread tape, and a little white plastic gasket that can wear out. on my older Presto, I did have the gasket start to go wonky on me, and ended up replacing it with a bunch of rtv around the base.

The valve that leads to the rocker- again, there is the possibility of a loose connection there.

Are you dismantling everything and giving it all a good scrub between runs? Making sure you've removed any scale, etc.? Are you doing the dumb shit I used to do, like using it as a grain pot or to hydrate coir?

I mean, bottom line is, if you can't see visible drips, but you're losing that much water, then steam is escaping from SOMEwhere it shouldn't. Maybe even more than one spot. I'd probably do something idiotic and ill-advised like getting rhe PC up to around 17 psi on the gauge then waving a pinky around all the different parts of it until it got scalded.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie] * 1
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Thanks lotkid.  It does sound complicated when reading. Lol But I think I get what you're saying. Ill also try that.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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callmehippie said:
I'll givev that a shot. Thanks cron. I have been wondering about if it has something to do with how long the valve takes  to pop up and vent.

One time I even used a small napkin pop it up myself. Which is why I thought hey if I could do that why hadn't it done it on its own.

I did check the tiny little white gasket on the valve but I haven't lubed that. Maby I'll buy a new one of those as well.

Everything is pretty new though so I don't think it's the gasket. But I'm definitely going to check everything cuz it's very very frustrating and I hate feeling uneasy that im  going to mess my up my  PC every time I use it.



What do you mean by "Valve pop up to vent"? The valve should pop up at pressure to stop venting and lock the top. The rocker, pressure regulator, jiggle top, whatever you want to call it maintains the 15 psi. Does your valve not pop up?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie] * 1
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Measure your water after a full run , if your down to half a qt I'd add an extra qt before you start


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LotKid]
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LotKid said:
callmehippie said:
23 Court Presto with the jiggle. And the new and updated rubber gasket not the OLD  shitty one that was super annoying to put back in.

I imagine nobody's got those old gaskets anymore. But you never know.


Gas stove top burner. Flames turned pretty much all the way down.



Okay, that's what i thought. You could have a gasket issue but also, jiggle weight let steam escape so your run time gets limited compared to the valve style because of this.



I honestly haven't had any real issues with that on the 23 quart Presto, as long as all my other ducks were in a row. Except for falling asleep and letting it run for 7 hours lol


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: 1NFIN8]
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1NFIN8 said:
callmehippie said:
I'll givev that a shot. Thanks cron. I have been wondering about if it has something to do with how long the valve takes  to pop up and vent.

One time I even used a small napkin pop it up myself. Which is why I thought hey if I could do that why hadn't it done it on its own.

I did check the tiny little white gasket on the valve but I haven't lubed that. Maby I'll buy a new one of those as well.

Everything is pretty new though so I don't think it's the gasket. But I'm definitely going to check everything cuz it's very very frustrating and I hate feeling uneasy that im  going to mess my up my  PC every time I use it.



What do you mean by "Valve pop up to vent"? The valve should pop up at pressure to stop venting and lock the top. The rocker, pressure regulator, jiggle top, whatever you want to call it maintains the 15 psi. Does your valve not pop up?



On a presto there's a valve that will pop when steam starts to build before you even put the weight on


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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I'm pretty sure I got the petroleum jelly from the manual itself.  to use it on the gasket as well as the Wings Around the edges of the pot.



So if you guys are putting in 3 quarts and then y'all run let's say 3 hours. How much water should I be expecting to lose?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: 1NFIN8]
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1NFIN8 said:
callmehippie said:
I'll givev that a shot. Thanks cron. I have been wondering about if it has something to do with how long the valve takes  to pop up and vent.

One time I even used a small napkin pop it up myself. Which is why I thought hey if I could do that why hadn't it done it on its own.

I did check the tiny little white gasket on the valve but I haven't lubed that. Maby I'll buy a new one of those as well.

Everything is pretty new though so I don't think it's the gasket. But I'm definitely going to check everything cuz it's very very frustrating and I hate feeling uneasy that im  going to mess my up my  PC every time I use it.



What do you mean by "Valve pop up to vent"? The valve should pop up at pressure to stop venting and lock the top. The rocker, pressure regulator, jiggle top, whatever you want to call it maintains the 15 psi. Does your valve not pop up?



They're talking about the safety mechanism that locks the lid in place.

I do often end up holding a towel over that to make it pop up, or just wiping off the accumulated water so that the weight doesn't affect it, or prying it up with a knife just to see if it'll hold. That does help reduce the time it takes to properly seal the whole vessel, and direct steam only to the rocker. But I doubt that prevents a ton of water loss- it just helps my impatient ass start the timer on venting.


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Edited by B Traven (08/23/25 05:18 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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Yeah that's basically been my solution is just add an extra quart of water and sacrifice the top layer of jars.

So 4 quarts is okay to run? How much is the max?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie] * 1
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I also used the knife to pop the valve up once or twice and shorten the time. I realized I said napkin in my previous comment.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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callmehippie said:
I'm pretty sure I got the petroleum jelly from the manual itself.  to use it on the gasket as well as the Wings Around the edges of the pot.



So if you guys are putting in 3 quarts and then y'all run let's say 3 hours. How much water should I be expecting to lose?



Whatever, I guess both of us are too lazy to dig out our manuals, but I'd still recommend mineral oil. And I don't love the sound of lubing up the metal itself.

I haven't bothered to measure my water loss, or how much I'm putting in in the first place, but basically, I have the trivet raised up to the point where I can still fit seven quarts on the bottom sitting upright and then three laying across the top, and just barely get the lid closed if I get the Tetris just right. And then water goes just barely up over the trivet, so that by the time it's all up to pressure my jars are just sitting in steam with any liquid water below their bottomes. When I open up the next day, the water is just below the trivet. By the time you factor in all the condensation on the lid/walls/jars, water loss is probably less than half a pint for 2-3 hours of runtime.


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Edited by B Traven (08/23/25 05:17 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: B Traven]
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B Traven said:
LotKid said:
callmehippie said:
23 Court Presto with the jiggle. And the new and updated rubber gasket not the OLD  shitty one that was super annoying to put back in.

I imagine nobody's got those old gaskets anymore. But you never know.


Gas stove top burner. Flames turned pretty much all the way down.



Okay, that's what i thought. You could have a gasket issue but also, jiggle weight let steam escape so your run time gets limited compared to the valve style because of this.



I honestly haven't had any real issues with that on the 23 quart Presto, as long as all my other ducks were in a row. Except for falling asleep and letting it run for 7 hours lol



Yeah?  I used to use a jiggle weight pc at one point way back and i remember it running through more water than the my valve styles do. :shrug:

Not saying he might not have another issue going on that could be causing excess loss.

So, idk. But what i'm fairly certain of is; falling asleep with one on the stove for 7 hours was probably not a lot of fun to wake up to...


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: B Traven] * 3
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Silicone grease is an excellent gasket lube. Lasts seemingly forever and is heat stable. Sucks to get it off your finger though. Wear a glove.

Hippie I don’t know what you’ve got going on, but I run my bags for four hours with only 3 quarts of water in my Presto and have lots of water left when I’m done. Can you back the heat off any more and still maintain pressure? I like my PC to be almost silent when at pressure, not knocking around letting off steam.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie] * 1
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callmehippie said:
Yeah that's basically been my solution is just add an extra quart of water and sacrifice the top layer of jars.

So 4 quarts is okay to run? How much is the max?



Not much of a max per say they usually have a fill line but even that's for food to not clog shit lol


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LotKid] * 1
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LotKid said:
B Traven said:
LotKid said:
callmehippie said:
23 Court Presto with the jiggle. And the new and updated rubber gasket not the OLD  shitty one that was super annoying to put back in.

I imagine nobody's got those old gaskets anymore. But you never know.


Gas stove top burner. Flames turned pretty much all the way down.



Okay, that's what i thought. You could have a gasket issue but also, jiggle weight let steam escape so your run time gets limited compared to the valve style because of this.



I honestly haven't had any real issues with that on the 23 quart Presto, as long as all my other ducks were in a row. Except for falling asleep and letting it run for 7 hours lol



Yeah?  I used to use a jiggle weight pc at one point way back and i remember it running through more water than the my valve styles do. :shrug:

Not saying he might not have another issue going on that could be causing excess loss.

So, idk. But what i'm fairly certain of is; falling asleep with one on the stove for 7 hours was probably not a lot of fun to wake up to...



Hahaha nope, definitely not ideal!

I've only ever used the 23 quart Prestos for grain prep, so I can't speak on any other models. I'm sure it runs through more water than a valve-style, I'm just saying it hasn't been a significant issue for me. Also, I AM talking about these jury-rigged off-label rocker weights with quarters taped to them and/or washers screwed down under the lid. While that's mainly just to be able to jack it up to 17 psi, it probably also cuts down on water loss.


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