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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: catnip40] * 1
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catnip40 said:
tripdawg420 said:
ok what would be more fun i have a syringe left of pe
1- i show shroomery how i grow start to finish:thumbdown:
2- shroomery teaches me all this new shit start to finish :thumbup:
3- or fuck off retard u fan ur tubs:laugh2:
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he gonna mist



I vote 2!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LadysKnight]
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I thought Rev used citric acid in his tea recipe before dehydrating.  Similar to lemon tek things.  I need to go back and read that part again before potentially ruining a batch though.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nocap]
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Didn't expect this to actually grow out but I buried this cake maybe three months ago and it fruited and is being eaten by... snails? (They're going to have a good ass trip I guess).

Should I pick it and clone it? What's the protocol for this kind of stuff?



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: paff]
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Could definitely clone to agar.

Personally, I probably wouldn’t though, but I also have several other projects going and a few different genetics to mess around with.

If that fruit is all you got, then hell yeah clone it to keep things going.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LadysKnight] * 8
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LadysKnight said:
DERRAYLD said:
ihansterx4i said:
Oh yea that’s right. He makes the active tea.

But I don’t think he uses lemons and just boils the shrooms in water. I’m worried about the sugars in the lemon getting too sticky and not dehydrating properly into a powder.



Do you just want to use lemon?
Lemon juice will dehydrate just fine.



My guess is this won't work. The point of the lemon juice is to pre-convert the psilocybin to psilocin. Psilocin doesn't stand up well to heat. Therefore you will have fewer actives. :shrug:



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Just picking a spot to reply to all the responses here.

Lemon tek will dry out to crystals fine if you run them in the dehydrator long enough. However, nearly all of the psilocin in lost in dehydration, so converting a significant portion of the psilocybin to psilocin before dehydrating it is going to reduce the total amount of actives.

If you are not dehydrating then adding the citric acid or lemon juice does pre-convert a lot of the psilocybin to psilocin which makes it more bio-available. That means it comes on faster and stronger and lasts shorter. Making tea without any acid also makes the psilocybin more bio-available but not by converting it. It is just in a soluble form that the stomach can convert quickly. So the effect is very similar to lemon tek. Faster and stronger come on and shorter duration. Both heat and acid do help break down the chitin to reduce stomach upset some.

So if you are drinking the tea or acid/lemon tek right away, either is fine. For reduction or dehydration, I recommend leaving the acid out. If you are making gummies, you can add the acid to the mix in later steps as a preservative. I wouldn't use acid at all for chocolate. But that is just a guess, I haven't worked much with active chocolates yet.

According to research I have seen, below a certain ph level the psilocybin to psilocin conversion is blocked my an enzymatic action. The study I saw showed that nearly 100% was converted in 10 to 15 minutes at the ph of orange juice where it was closer to 50% for lemon juice, which has a lower ph. The orange juice then began to lose total potency quickly after that time while while the lemon juice potency dropped much more slowly. That testing was done in a lab with HPLC which is above my pay grade, so all I can do is report what they said. At the time I saw this, I believe that the research was still unpublished, so I can't link or verify it.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ReverendMyc] * 2
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ReverendMyc] * 1
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Thank you so much! This connected a few of the missing pieces for me.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nocap] * 1
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Hey !

Would you suggest to put extra lids on those containers?

First time trying this method.


Best of luck fellow cultivars:rockon:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ogelite] * 1
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I like to leave lids on the shoeboxes until the fruits get too big for that.
Keeps them from drying out too much in the larger volume space.

Basically, they don’t really need to be in the bigger container yet.
Looks very nice though. Well fitting combo. :thumbup:

Do you have some holes in the larger tub for FAE?
That lid doesn’t look like it will breathe very much.

Edit - maybe it’s just the clear lid, but it looks like it really wraps the edge of the tub more tightly than the basic shoe/boot boxes, also, not claiming that you definitely need holes, was just asking because I can’t tell

Edited by nocap (08/14/25 03:59 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nocap]
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nocap said:
I like to leave lids on the shoeboxes until the fruits get too big for that.
Keeps them from drying out too much in the larger volume space.

Basically, they don’t really need to be in the bigger container yet.
Looks very nice though. Well fitting combo. :thumbup:

Do you have some holes in the larger tub for FAE?
That lid doesn’t look like it will breathe very much.



I was wondering does those containers will colonize well in this kind of setup?

The lid breathe and i usually use the container for monotub but wanted to try those little containers this time.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ogelite] * 1
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Shoeboxes work great and will colonize just fine :thumbup:
They are my preferred container for a single jar of spawn.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LotKid] * 2
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LotKid said:




My single biggest regret in life is that I'll never be able to grow a mustache/beard combo just like this gif. My neckbeard ancestry is too strong.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ogelite] * 1
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ogelite said:


Hey !

Would you suggest to put extra lids on those containers?

First time trying this method.


Best of luck fellow cultivars:rockon:



You can add 1/4" holes at the top height of your shoe boxes, 2 on each long side equally spaced and one on each narrow end in the middle. I would then add 3 to 5 1/4 inch holes right below the handle area equally spaced with the handle. That way you get O2 in and Co2 out. Also you can add the lids of the shoe box if it looks like the sub is drying to fast or cover the holes with micropore tape.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ReverendMyc] * 2
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Thank you for clarifying Rev. I'm about to clean out most of my stockpile to make Active tea, and you just saved a fuck tonne of my actives.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon] * 3
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PuffM4gicDr4gon said:
LotKid said:




My single biggest regret in life is that I'll never be able to grow a mustache/beard combo just like this gif. My neckbeard ancestry is too strong.



Shit, I got this and the matching neckbeard coverage. Reach for the stars.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nocap]
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Agars can switch between tormentose and rhizo growth right? Not gonna use this one cause of a spot of contam but I've got 1 more just like it I'd like to put to grain


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nocap] * 1
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nocap said:
Shoeboxes work great and will colonize just fine :thumbup:
They are my preferred container for a single jar of spawn.



Thanks for answers!

i will post some nice fruits if ill get any :rockon:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DERRAYLD]
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Do I have to do the "glass over cap" method in an SAB or can I get away with raw doggin' it in open air. I was going to follow Bod's spore printing tek


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ogelite] * 2
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PSA! Be very careful putting stainless steel trivets or adding stainless steel bolts to your aluminum trivets if you use a aluminum PC like the Presto 23qt. I have ran mine only twice since purchasing it and on the second run I placed the stainless trivet from my Instant pot under my aluminum trivet to give it some height. After the run I noticed galvanic corrosion in the pot.




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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Arkyhog]
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That's a tumor!


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