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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DERRAYLD] * 2
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DERRAYLD said:
Both sides of foil are fine, foil is pressure rolled to achieve a thin foil so technically there is no inside because it's all formed as a sheet that is then rolled.

Both sides are effectively treated the same way.



As a welder it's always nice for me to see people who knows how metals are being handled.:rockon:

But there is an inside and an outside, the outside is the shiny part since the sheets are created by rolling two sheets of aluminium at the same time in the final stage where the foil is too thin to be rolled on its own which means the "inside" will be matte as the original sheet whilst the outside becomes shiny due to the rollers being polished.

So yeah there is a reason it's shiny on one side and matte on the other but it's not a functional one, it's a bi-product of the manufacturing process.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: SkanskKorv] * 2
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Agreed, I was defining it in pretty lay terms.
I've run press shops, always good to meet an artisan.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DERRAYLD] * 1
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It takes forever to get through a roll of foil. The outside collects dust.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DERRAYLD] * 2
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Ah that's cool, I currently work in a metal factory as an operator and manual welder. We don't have those kind of rollers but we've got several hydraulic presses, various mig robots, two plasma robots (I operate one of them), lasers etc.

This is really neat since I will be making my own stainless steel flow hood, I just made a stainless steel table top which needs to be thrown in the press break before welding the corners and smoothening the sharp edges and a few other things for mushroom cultivation in a (hopefully) near future.:naughty:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: SkanskKorv]
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A stainless steel flowhood sounds insanely heavy. What guage?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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tryptkaloids said:
A stainless steel flowhood sounds insanely heavy. What guage?



Lol nah it won't. It will be 1mm or even 0.7mm thick plates so it won't be especially heavy. we already make frames for other similar things and they don't weigh much at all. Stainless is perfect for this I'd say, I could do the same but with aluminium but aluminium gets scratched easier which creates areas where contamination can hide, stainless doesn't corrode as easily or react like aluminium do to chemicals and is more resistant to  being damaged and replaced in the future.

So it's a bit more pricey and a bit heavier but not so much that it makes a difference. Stainless is definitely the best option here imo.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tree frog]
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tree frog said:
I don't know about the rest, but the ochras  look to have a low spore mutation.



You can see it here in this pan I just fruited.

And it does seem like the low spore mutations have trouble orienting themselves, they might be interrelated.



Thanks! I was thinking it might have been a fresh air thing or maybe not enough moisture in the sub, but you know more than me. I’ll have to see in my next batch of these to know for sure.

Hopefully I’ll get a few more to weigh in on my post.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AZ Starman2112]
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Hi !

I hope it s the right thread to ask this question !

For all of those that take weed edibles (but don t smoke, either tabacco or weed) during a trip, how does it affect it ? (Longer, more visuals, more mental,  ... ?)

Also, imagine you need 1g for a lvl 3. How much would you need to take with an edible to reach the same lvl ?

Cheers !


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tropical]
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I'm growing Ochras right now and just got my first pins 2 days ago! I'm super excited over these.

What's the average pin to harvest time for Ochras?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AZ Starman2112]
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You seem to have a bit of a hybrid in my opinion.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nektar61] * 1
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I print on the dull side. It’s easier to see the print.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: SkanskKorv] * 2
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SkanskKorv said:
I'm growing Ochras right now and just got my first pins 2 days ago! I'm super excited over these.

What's the average pin to harvest time for Ochras?



After my Ochras pinned out, it was like 4 or 5 days until I harvested them.They are slightly longer than cubes because they need to grow to size. The veils aren't a good judge on these. I picked some that were only a couple days old and really small because the gills were exposed and there were no veils, so I thought they were good to go and that I had missed the veils breaking. I was told through PM to wait and let them grow. Huge difference.  They seem to turn from yellowish to greyish when they are ready to harvest.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AZ Starman2112] * 3
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Am I harvesting these GT too early?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Wedgie]
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Wedgie said:
If I utilized organic dried grain for quart jars to be pressure cooked for 15
PSI for however many minutes, then if I did the same for NOT organic dried grain, are the organic jars more likely to contaminate or not?



No difference.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ihansterx4i]
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AZ Starman2112 said:
SkanskKorv said:
I'm growing Ochras right now and just got my first pins 2 days ago! I'm super excited over these.

What's the average pin to harvest time for Ochras?



After my Ochras pinned out, it was like 4 or 5 days until I harvested them.They are slightly longer than cubes because they need to grow to size. The veils aren't a good judge on these. I picked some that were only a couple days old and really small because the gills were exposed and there were no veils, so I thought they were good to go and that I had missed the veils breaking. I was told through PM to wait and let them grow. Huge difference.  They seem to turn from yellowish to greyish when they are ready to harvest.



Alright thanks man! I appreciate it. I was worrying they'd take longer than cubes... seems like I'll be losing my Ochra cheyy this weekend :zomgzomgzomg:

ihansterx4i said:




Am I harvesting these GT too early?



Nah man those are good. I let them open their caps like that too and sometimes even more and I can't say I can notice any difference in potency. They look perfect to me but some would argue that you should pick them just when the veil is starting to break, it's just that I don't notice any potency difference as previously mentioned.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: SkanskKorv]
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SkanskKorv said:
DERRAYLD said:
Both sides of foil are fine, foil is pressure rolled to achieve a thin foil so technically there is no inside because it's all formed as a sheet that is then rolled.

Both sides are effectively treated the same way.



As a welder it's always nice for me to see people who knows how metals are being handled.:rockon:

But there is an inside and an outside, the outside is the shiny part since the sheets are created by rolling two sheets of aluminium at the same time in the final stage where the foil is too thin to be rolled on its own which means the "inside" will be matte as the original sheet whilst the outside becomes shiny due to the rollers being polished.

So yeah there is a reason it's shiny on one side and matte on the other but it's not a functional one, it's a bi-product of the manufacturing process.




that we can just go to the store and buy a roll of perfect aluminum foil should awe anyone with any sense of history.

some of the stuff we can get for next to nothing is astounding.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ihansterx4i]
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ihansterx4i said:




Am I harvesting these GT too early?




nope.  I even taken them earlier than that so their open caps aren't little grappling hooks in the jars.  I get irrationally annoyed at trying to dump out a full quart jar when their caps have opened.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: dinosaurs] * 1
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dinosaurs said:
SkanskKorv said:
DERRAYLD said:
Both sides of foil are fine, foil is pressure rolled to achieve a thin foil so technically there is no inside because it's all formed as a sheet that is then rolled.

Both sides are effectively treated the same way.



As a welder it's always nice for me to see people who knows how metals are being handled.:rockon:

But there is an inside and an outside, the outside is the shiny part since the sheets are created by rolling two sheets of aluminium at the same time in the final stage where the foil is too thin to be rolled on its own which means the "inside" will be matte as the original sheet whilst the outside becomes shiny due to the rollers being polished.

So yeah there is a reason it's shiny on one side and matte on the other but it's not a functional one, it's a bi-product of the manufacturing process.




that we can just go to the store and buy a roll of perfect aluminum foil should awe anyone with any sense of history.

some of the stuff we can get for next to nothing is astounding.



Yeah and knowing the processes needed to make "simple" things make you realize they're not that simple.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: SkanskKorv] * 3
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Or when the white house served dignitaries meals with aluminum cutlery because it was a very rare and expensive metal...

Simplicity of production and ability to process resources changes over time :shrug:

Wife is a blacksmith, I get talked metal at :lol:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: SkanskKorv] * 1
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So the shrooms are going to teach me patience if it's the last thing they do. That and leave it the fuck alone, stop obsessing.

Here's the pic I asked about contamination a few days ago.



It's not there anymore. Here's full pic from today so my question is - how close am I to wanting to go substrate?



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