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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy]
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how i fruit tubs put a trash bag on the tub lining the bottom and pull it over the lip of the mouth of the tub then pour in the coir then the spawn mix really well get the bottom mixed real good put the lid on let it colonize till 100% now take some scissors and cut the bag to the sub surface uncovering the 2 inch wholes pre drilled now take polly lightly stuff ur holes now turn on the light and now take the lip of the lid on the far side ans lift it up and down rapidly over the tub repeat the 2 3 times a day :thumbup:well dont listen to me im retarded and cant spell so :shrug:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ElGringoGrande] * 1
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ElGringoGrande said:
Yo does anyone have an explanation or link to one about why we are supposed to put foil over lids of things in the pressure cooker?

I’m specifically looking at agar in a 500 ml media bottle. I poured agar a week ago and was very careful with pouring in my SAB, followed Bod’s videos to a t, closed all windows and turned off all fans/ac and hour before pouring, showered ~30 mins before.

All the plates are contammed, they look like little drops evenly dispersed across the surface of the agar, clear but I can see thin trails leading out of the drops so probably bacteria (sorry no pics rn, I’ll post later).

The only thing I can think is that I didn’t cover the lid of the bottle during sterilization, just left the lid slightly unscrewed, so I’m trying to track down what went wrong. Could leaving the lid uncovered lead to contams? Or was I just not careful enough with pouring?


Here’s the plates I was talking about:






I thought I was pretty damn good with my sterile technique, and the ones that aren’t inoculated are showing contam as well so I must not have been using my sab quite right while pouring as well as inoculating.

@Axman thanks for the tips, I might try some primo plates if my next run comes out the same, and I’ll definitely scrub my arms beforehand.

@Mr Piggy I'll make sure to use foil next time and leave it on until I pour, maybe something got into the bottle while cooling. Do you seal the cap tight while cooling or leave it slightly unscrewed?

Back to the basics it is for me friends

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ElGringoGrande] * 2
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I let the bottle cool inside the pressure cooker.
Leave it closed until it's inside of the Sab.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Leave your media container partially unscrewed, close it, then back it off a quarter turn.

Your contamination looks kinda like bacteria, do you vent your PC before you sterilize your agar?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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How long can I store pasteurized 50/50 peat moss and verm casing layer for in a unmodified mason jars? Where would be the place to store them? Should I make it airtight?




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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Jrey16] * 2
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I’d crack the lid and put it in the fridge, personally

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Jrey16] * 2
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Don't make it airtight, that will create an enviroment more suitable for anaerobic bacteria growth.

I have stored my pasturised casing in a bucket with the lid pushed down on 1 side for months without any issues.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Dkeppel]
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Hi!

I have a few questions :

1. From PF Tek thread : "Incubation should take place at 68 to 75 degree's Fahrenheit (20 to 24 Celsius)."

I live in a country where it never goes under 28°C, humidity is 80 to 90%

Would the incubation works in a room with an AC? The humidity will drop to 30%, even less maybe (25%?).

2. Can I successfuly fruit with the AC on following Mateja's Water Tub tek? Or should I follow another tek if I want to use the AC?
I would like to avoid to grow hollow stems / not so potent shrooms.

3. Looking at the PF TEK thread, it seems not so hard to do so. How is it realistically for a noob? Can I expect to totaly fuck up my first grow?

Cheers


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Edited by Tropical (06/02/25 10:56 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tropical] * 1
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Tropical said:
Hi!

I have a few questions :

1. From PF Tek thread : "Incubation should take place at 68 to 75 degree's Fahrenheit (20 to 24 Celsius)."

I live in a country where it never goes under 28°C, humidity is 80 to 90%

Would the incubation works in a room with an AC? The humidity will drop to 30%, even less maybe (25%?).

2. Can I successfuly fruit with the AC on following Mateja's Water Tub tek? Or should I follow another tek if I want to use the AC?
I would like to avoid to grow hollow stems / not so potent shrooms.

3. Looking at the PF TEK thread, it seems not so hard to do so. How is it realistically for a noob? Can I expect to totaly fuck up my first grow?

Cheers


1. Higher temperature means its easier for contamination to happen, you could always do two sets of tubs, one in the AC one in a different room.

2. Use the water tub tek, it works well, or something like a small water tub and a Fahtloc.

3. PF tek is slow but reliable, its one of my favorite ways to grow. I doubt you'll have any problems, but definitely do a few cakes at a time.

All that being said, failure is part of this hobby, but if you follow the trusted teks, you will have greater success.


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Edited by Axman (06/02/25 11:18 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Axman]
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Cheers i ll just use the ac then if it s not a problem :smile:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tropical] * 1
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Tropical said:
Cheers i ll just use the ac then if it s not a problem :smile:


Yeah, no need to worry about the relative humidity inside the room, because the tub has its own internal relative humidity.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Axman]
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Axman said:
Leave your media container partially unscrewed, close it, then back it off a quarter turn.

Your contamination looks kinda like bacteria, do you vent your PC before you sterilize your agar?


I use an IP, and yes vent for 10 mins then cook for 45.

I’m thinking it’s probably a combination of not covering the lid (possibly exposing the pouring end of the bottle with contaminates) and not wetting the inside of the sab at the right time (not effectively stilling the air within).

I haven’t had this type of contamination before and I usually cover the lid so I’m gonna assume it’s that, run another cycle with the lid covered and see how it goes. Thanks for all the advice Axman

And no pours are my backup if I’m running into the same wall

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ElGringoGrande] * 1
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Is 45 minutes long enough for an IP? Don't they onlt do like 12-13psi which would need a longer PC then? Like how grains usually can do a 90min PC but people using insta pots usually PC grains for 180min.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Axman]
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I cook agar at 18 for 15/20m


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Axman] * 2
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I do 55 minutes in an IP, 5 minutes vent, 2 or 3 x 250mL media bottles with loose lids and I have never used foil with media bottles.

I used to do 45 minutes, I never had an issue but I added 10 minutes to play it safe :shrug:

My agar is always hot going into the IP as well though, maybe if your putting a cold 500mL bottle into an IP it needs a longer cooking time to compensate for the extra energy needed to being the medium up to temperature and penetrate the larger load?

It won't harm anything to cook for an hour, I'd increase the cooking time and see how it goes.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Dkeppel]
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Hi,

Another round of questions!

1. What s the best preparation tek to have the most potent doses? Lemon tek? Powder + capsule tek? Something else?

2. With 80% relative humidity, what the best way to store the shrooms? It seems from the HHG guide grinding + capsule is the best bet?

I fear once dehydrated + grinded the powder will stick. Only viable solution would be to store the powder in the fridge. Is it ok?

Any idea is welcomed.

Cheers!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tropical] * 1
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Tropical said:
Hi,

Another round of questions!

1. What s the best preparation tek to have the most potent doses? Lemon tek? Powder + capsule tek? Something else?

2. With 80% relative humidity, what the best way to store the shrooms? It seems from the HHG guide grinding + capsule is the best bet?

I fear once dehydrated + grinded the powder will stick. Only viable solution would be to store the powder in the fridge. Is it ok?

Any idea is welcomed.

Cheers!


I recommend not grinding your dry mushrooms. It will only make all the parts that were previously safely inside the mushroom vulnerable to oxidation and lose potency.

My advice for dosing would be: make sure you take enough! Just simply eat the fruits or make 'tea' out of them if you can't eat them or want to dose high.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tropical]
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Tropical said:
Hi,

Another round of questions!

1. What s the best preparation tek to have the most potent doses? Lemon tek? Powder + capsule tek? Something else?

2. With 80% relative humidity, what the best way to store the shrooms? It seems from the HHG guide grinding + capsule is the best bet?

I fear once dehydrated + grinded the powder will stick. Only viable solution would be to store the powder in the fridge. Is it ok?

Any idea is welcomed.

Cheers!


tea wirh lemon or lemon tek.
dont grind your mushrooms if you dont have to, as Tweeq said already.

dry them well, they need quite longer than you think, and store them with desiccant packs in a tight jar, dont expose them to uv light.
or seal them  sous-vide with desiccant. that, when well done, seems perfect to me.
make tea -> ice cubes is probably even better but not practical imo


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Edited by chris77 (06/03/25 04:46 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tropical] * 2
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Tropical said:
Hi,

Another round of questions!

1. What s the best preparation tek to have the most potent doses? Lemon tek? Powder + capsule tek? Something else?

2. With 80% relative humidity, what the best way to store the shrooms? It seems from the HHG guide grinding + capsule is the best bet?

I fear once dehydrated + grinded the powder will stick. Only viable solution would be to store the powder in the fridge. Is it ok?

Any idea is welcomed.

Cheers!


1. Make concentrated tea from fresh fruits.
2. Freeze concentrated tea from fresh fruits.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LadysKnight]
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The outer edges of my agar switched colors from green to blue in the outer edges and I'm having issues figuring out what caused it since there can be a couple of things creating this effect. I cleaned the plastic box I put the agar in with iso alcohol and didn't let it fully evaporate first because I didn't have much time that day and I forgot to put the box in my cabinet so it has been left near the window where direct sunlight hits for a couple of hours in the morning.

Could it be that the alcohol vapors did this or perhaps the sunlight and is it harmful to my agar plates? I'm suspecting the alcohol vapors discoloured it since it's only in the outer edges of it, if it was the sun I find it peculiar that it's so symmetrical.


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