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#29230155 - 05/27/25 11:45 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

My apologies, I think I screwed up by not creating a new thread for my question. Should I leave it alone or start my question as a new thread?

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#29230163 - 05/27/25 11:58 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Lithop said:

nektar61 said:

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He said this one gives you woodlovers paralysis every time:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybe_weraroa

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19:12, really cool mushroom.

Not sure about WLP, I do recall another NZ crime pays vid w/ Alan on the tube, where one of the local hunters shows some, I think subs, at the bottom of a hill and he implied, IIRC, that this location gave WLP always too. Annoyingly I can't find that video right now. Not that it amounts to anything more than anecdote just like managing to upright a severely tripping homie doesnt disprove
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its this vid, 5:05

Holy crap. I'd heard of Alan Rockefeller, but this is the first time I've had the privilege of listening to this fuhkin' Chi-talian ova heer. Makes me miss home.

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#29230164 - 05/27/25 12:04 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Noob Inoculating Plates Question.
When inoculating plates, what information about the plate do you want to write down and keep track of? What do you write on the plate or keep in a log?

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#29230167 - 05/27/25 12:12 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Date, name, germination plate.
Subsequent transfers get their T1 designation.

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#29230172 - 05/27/25 12:16 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

nektar61 said:

(You're probably going to say "appeal to authority logical fallacy!" now, but I'm not sure what evidence would even crack your stubborn certainty that WLP doesn't exist. But I trust Alan's knowledge a lot more than yours.)

That's exactly what i am going to say.

I'm also going to ask this, how much personal experience do you have with woodlovers?

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#29230225 - 05/27/25 01:26 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Wlp is a psyop perpetuated by Big Cube

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#29230231 - 05/27/25 01:31 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Not actually that far off when you consider their reasoning for only allowing cubes in Oregon's legal "market." :lol:

:lol:

Just like minimalism is a conspiracy by big small to sell more less.

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#29230233 - 05/27/25 01:38 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

It wasn’t so long ago I had to learn this. The info DERRAYLD gave you is the best answer. I’ll add one thing and maybe break it down for you. I write the name of the specimen, if it is a first plate I write the source - spore print, MSS or LQ. PDF f it a secondary plate I write the transfer sequence number - T1, T2, etc and I might add a letter that differentiate which plate is which and where it came from like T1-A. I write the date I inoculated it or transferred to it. On secondary plates I also write the date of the plate I took the transfer from so I can see how slow I ex fast the myc is moving compared to the plate it came from. Hope that helps!

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#29230239 - 05/27/25 01:43 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I also think a lot of people take wood lovers expecting it to be like cubes and they are completely unprepared for the body load and introspection. I definitely have fallen into azzie k-holes on more than one occasion, but I was just high and not paralyzed. Popped right up out of it when I was done spelunking the depths. I've smoked so much weed that I couldn't move, but I wouldn't call that cannabis paralysis, I was just high as fuck beyond a reasonably functional level.

What I have experienced is actual paralysis. I had a major medical incident when I was 14 that forced me off of my meds at the same time as a bunch of physical trauma. I have lain in a hospital bed fully conscious and unable to even wiggle my toe or blink. When I compare that to every incident people have described as WL "Paralysis" the only thing I can think is "the fuck you did." Once you experience real full body paralysis it throws some perspective on the situation. Absolutely screaming in terror inside of complete silence. Your body pumping cortisol into your blood stream because of your terror, yet your breathing is still set to "sleep mode." Real paralysis is impossible to describe unless you've experienced it, and I have not heard it described in the WL discussion.

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#29230250 - 05/27/25 01:53 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

from Kill your Lawn, and Crime Pays, Botany Doesn't. awesome stuff,. love that dude

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#29230256 - 05/27/25 02:03 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I didn't take it that way, I was just trying to clarify that I also ate a very large dose of stones on top of the fruits.

And yeah, actual paralysis is what I am afraid of. Like I've done enough disassociatives that stumbling around is not something I would call paralysis.

But something more along the lines of what Piggy is saying. Hence why I woood lovers scare me, and if it's not to that degree, maybe I will try some since I have a few friends doing outdoor beds this season.

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#29230273 - 05/27/25 02:29 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I'm going to be honest, even if WL paralysis was real I would roll those dice for the things Ps cyans have done for me.

I have never felt that connected to anything, let alone the whole world.

Also, wanna talk about gender euphoria? Holy shit do cyans give me gender euphoria.

I'm not at all claiming they will for sure do this for other people, but most people I have given ps cyans to have had an incredible experience on them.

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#29230281 - 05/27/25 02:34 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

:cookiemonster:

I made peace with the fact a good friend killed himself, after thinking it was my fault for like eight months. On cyans. Cried my eyes out. It's really special stuff

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#29230285 - 05/27/25 02:40 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Is I the "hat man" look a genetic i should clioe and isolate, or more due to conditions?

Edited by sk8cracka (05/27/25 02:44 PM)

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#29230319 - 05/27/25 03:40 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Churpee Choozle said:

I made peace with the fact a good friend killed himself, after thinking it was my fault for like eight months. On cyans. Cried my eyes out. It's really special stuff

Fucking word, it's the only time I have felt true self forgiveness. I hurt people when I was younger, some physical some mental. It was a hard life being a homeless youth. Cyans gave me what nothing in life ever had, self forgiveness, acceptance, and peace. I don't wan't people to miss out on that because of an unproven big fat maybe.

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#29230320 - 05/27/25 03:41 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I wonder if there are similar looking mushrooms to woodlovers that grow in the same area that interfere with motor neurons? WLP could be as simple as people eating a misidentified mushroom and suffering side effects because of it.

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#29230322 - 05/27/25 03:47 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

PuffM4gicDr4gon said:

I wonder if there are similar looking mushrooms to woodlovers that grow in the same area that interfere with motor neurons? WLP could be as simple as people eating a misidentified mushroom and suffering side effects because of it.

I don't think so, the only look a-likes around here would either do nothing, give gastrointestinal distress, or kill you. I believe people are eating WL mushrooms and think that they can't move, but I think it's a set and setting type thing, along with being unfamiliar with wood lover potency and high type.

If someone works themselves up a whole bunch about it, has their entire mind focused on it, and then takes some mind altering psychedelics then yeah... they might push themselves into a bad high where they think they are paralyzed. I've seen weirder shit.

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#29230360 - 05/27/25 04:27 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

this video, linked from this paper on oregon.gov, goes into some of the data and hypothesis concerning WLP.

interesting is that some of the compounds found in woodlovers produced symptoms attributed to loss of motor skills in biological endpoints in laboratory conditions.

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#29230415 - 05/27/25 05:47 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Mr Piggy said:

I'm going to be honest, even if WL paralysis was real I would roll those dice for the things Ps cyans have done for me.

THIS is what I assumed was going on with you all along.

I read all the replies here, including yours, since yesterday, there's way too much to reply to each one. (I'm still googling "gender euphoria" for one.)

And I can imagine someone who has actually been paralyzed thinking "pfft" to someone saying shrooms made them have to hug the wall while walking, and need help sitting up or whatever. But that's not WLP. That's just being "drunk as a monk" on hallucinogens. Part of that is probably just your inner ear being confused and not know what's up and down.

Even on that poll I linked yesterday, one of the comments is someone who got so high on cubes that they couldn't move.

As I said, I've been there, with LSD, not cubes since I learned my lesson and was old enough to know better by the time I started picking cubes in cow fields in Texas in the 80s.

I still think WLP real and not an urban myth / conspiracy made up by Big Cube, haha, (Or the CIA, like they did lying about LSD causing chromosome damage in the 60s).

I have zero experience with wood lovers. I grew some psilo cyan on plates, got to T1, heard about WLP and threw them out. I have a heart condition and am not going to roll the dice on taking a possible paralytic.

Pic of plates below.

Wouldn't matter if I had a lot of experience. As rare as WLP is, even if I'd done them 50 times I would likely not have hit the paralysis roulette wheel win.

Mr Piggy said:

I have never felt that connected to anything, let alone the whole world.

Anyone who has that connection, with any psychedelic, is going to defend that psychedelic like they're defending their mother.

For me it was an early x7x+, after I'd done 100 shroom trips, I tried the early version and saw god, life, death, the fact that we're just "a smear in the shale" and that it's all OK, on 2 fucking grams of x7x+. That's why I chased the pheno to the spore-choking strong mess it is today.

It has a body load too, that other cubes don't have in similar lower doses, it's a little narcotic. I'm not the only one who's noticed it. I am guessing it might be something with higher than normal amount of natural MAOIs. Who knows.

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#29230439 - 05/27/25 06:49 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Finally getting around to prep some coir today. I am using pint jars to go into a 6qt shoebox. Someone in this thread said

you want about 80g/quart for spawn, about 20g for a top layer.

The tech I was following suggested 550 g should be enough for about 6 of theb6 qt shoeboxes. What would be best?

Edit: just realizing I think I misunderstood the 8/ qt. Subs meant to be per qt of spawn I was think pert quart of the tub.

Edited by Mub (05/27/25 06:58 PM)

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