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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DERRAYLD]
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I've been considering pc'ing swabs in foil (even though they came sterile in the paper/plastic combo) bc i hate dealing with masking tape on those wrappers :mad2:

Is this worth doing?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Dala] * 1
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No reason it wouldn't work.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Dala] * 2
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i wrap the heads of swabs in foil. then wrap about 20 foiled covered swabs in another wrapping of foil. make a few of those and put them inside a mason jar and pc with the next batch of agar. only open inside box or in the flow.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mushboy] * 1
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:whathesaid:

I individually wrap 2 swabs in a bundle and make hundreds of them which I pc along with my agar.

Open the jar, remove what you need and seal the jar again after.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DERRAYLD]
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wrapping smaller amounts is probably better:awesomenod: i always used swabs in batches like id never just need 1 or 2 sterile swabs id need a bunch. but thats just how i was doing things i guess.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DERRAYLD] * 1
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Great tips. Looks like I've got a project for the weekend. Thanks y'all

Edit: fuck I made a pun. Somebody berate me


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mushboy]
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That's why I fill the jar with twin packs.
Gives me options and a hell of a lot of swabs.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: maplepine]
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Water?

Did you sterilize it? How much volume?



Most likely the swab is the source... how fresh was it?
Prints and swabs are recommended to let dry at least a week due to bacteria.


Too much water & using a swab vs print is probably why there's not any mycelium growth.


How did you make swab? Sterilized?

I just use blade to cut the swab into sections and swipe a piece then jam it into the agar.



Edited^

Edited by LewDoja (04/04/25 10:15 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: maplepine]
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maplepine said:
DERRAYLD said:
That's bacterial so either you aren't sterilizing your loop fully or your water is not sterile.

Those are some options, generally speaking satellite molds are more attributed to our own technique issues.



Phaethon said:
You mention water used to spread...but nothing about preparing it. Did it go in the IP along with the agar media?

In any case, you can skip the water and remove a possible contamination vector. Just cool the loop in the receiving plate (no need for a separate cooling dish either), pick up some spores with the  agar-wet loop, and streak on the plate. A sterile swab works well for this too - it's more wasteful but also a little less fussy.

Even if the print is dirty, avoiding adding water may give any mycelium that germinates a better chance of outrunning present bacteria long enough for you to take a clean transfer.



Thanks so much, this makes a lot of sense. I boiled the syringe in water and sucked up some of the boil water, as I saw in a video. However, I also stored it in a ziplock in the fridge, so even though I heated the needle to glowing, there's enough doubt in the rest of the process to point the finger.

I'll look for sterile swabs. I want to avoid ordering things like lab equipment but that should be safe.



Boiling does not sterilize, not even close.

There is no need for a syringe when using plates, just use the sterilized loop to spread spores in a zig-zag pattern across the plate.  Done.

That eliminates several contamination vectors from your description right there.

Now "some of this and some of that" are not measurements.  How much of what are you putting in your agar?  You need to be SPECIFIC in order to get useful help in cult.


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ragamuffin]
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ragamuffin said:
Send it :grin:



Absolutely not.


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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After working in a bunch of kitchens, I know the easy trick for drain flies - a splash of bleach in each drain before bed. They will be gone in no time. BTi will help if they spread.

As far as using DE for cult, I have discovered that you can surround your outdoor grows with it to keep rodents at bay. Must be re-applied after a rain, but it seemed to help with mine. Birds didn't care, but the chipmunks didn't like the stuff at all.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: KlarnEvil9] * 1
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BeefSupremeJr said:
this goes out to roscoe, nich, and the other medicinal and gourmet people:

i want to grow chaga.  i forage it from my place in maine but i dont feel good about that.  really.

ive never heard of anyone successfully growing but id like to try.  if anyone has any ideas, dm me.  i have an infinite supply of birch wood/bark.



The thing about growing chaga is that it parasites a live tree in order to make the medicinal compounds.

You can grow it on other substrates, and it would probably develop some of those compounds. But it's not going to be like wild harvested is my understanding.

Also, because it's a parasite. I wouldn't personally feel bad about harvesting the stone before it tries to fruit and spread to other trees :shrug:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tree frog] * 1
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Has anyone else been contemplating using Beef’s flamethrower Tek?
Part of me feels like it’s a big old practical Joke way of having you melt your own tub, but part of me really wants to try it.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
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What's the best tek for doing cubensis extracts?

I figured it would be a good way to do long term storage and utilizing stuff I wouldn't want to eat as much since the coir is embedded in it. Any experiences or advice?

Also, is there an upper limit for how much mushrooms can be used for a cup of tea and maintain the same ratio?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Huskies] * 1
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Hot water + time seems to be the best option. Then reduce the liquid for easier storage.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Huskies]
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Huskies said:
What's the best tek for doing cubensis extracts?

I figured it would be a good way to do long term storage and utilizing stuff I wouldn't want to eat as much since the coir is embedded in it. Any experiences or advice?

Also, is there an upper limit for how much mushrooms can be used for a cup of tea and maintain the same ratio?



This is something that folks are still figuring out. Rev is doing some excellent observations on it. I believe there is an upper limit, as he has been able to keep getting potent tea out of multiple extractions of ground fruits.  This suggests to me that when we do a hot water extraction, we are also pulling out a lot of other biomass in the process.

For long-term storage, it looks like tea can be dehydrated back down into a powder.

Anyway, there's too much good data in this thread for me to sum up in this response so here you go.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28950008


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
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GenesisCorrupted said:
Has anyone else been contemplating using Beef’s flamethrower Tek?
Part of me feels like it’s a big old practical Joke way of having you melt your own tub, but part of me really wants to try it.




I never took it seriously, if its sporulating it could spread spores more; salt seemed better to delay things to me.

but now that I see a white slime mold expanding on my beloved cyan patch, i'm seriously thinking of taking a big propane torch to that thing before it sporulates or expands more.

I'm worried about it damaging the cyan mycelium just under the surface, but the slime mold seems to be ON the surface, and with wet chips, i'm hoping the cyan mycelium doesn't get too hot.  Either way the cyans are suffering.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
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GenesisCorrupted said:
Has anyone else been contemplating using Beef’s flamethrower Tek?
Part of me feels like it’s a big old practical Joke way of having you melt your own tub, but part of me really wants to try it.



I'll absolutely do it again, so long as I caught it early. Also, I would never approach it as being a contamination remedy - I'm just buying time to let the flush finish and then the tubs getting the ol 21 gun salute.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman]
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Can vacuum sealer be used for bags just for sealing and not vacuuming?

There’s a $20 one local and it’s cheaper than impulse sealers Ive seen

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: san pedro guy] * 1
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san pedro guy said:
Can vacuum sealer be used for bags just for sealing and not vacuuming?

There’s a $20 one local and it’s cheaper than impulse sealers Ive seen



Mine has seal only button and it was very cheap one. Also I think the mouth of the bag needs to be in specific place in the vacuum sealer for the vacuum to work. So you can just place the bag "wrong" and have a seal only.

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