PuffM4gicDr4gon said:

I can edit out your name if you'd like, although I did say that you were a nay as in you were against it. All I'm trying to do is to get more than one person's opinion before I decide if I'm going to cut extra holes in my tub. It seems all the big players on this thread tend to do things their own way and that there isn't one specific correct way. I didn't mean any insult by including you.

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kirkeng said:

In all fairness an AIO jar is essentially sterilized substrate, I fail to see how this would be a mold magnet. Can be fruited as is crumbled or used as spawn to more substrate pasteurized or sterilized, it would be no more a mold magnet than traditional grain spawn, unless I’m missing something?

Edit: I mean shit blue helix essentially used AIO jars, at least the concept is similar… going off memory here by the way I may be thinking of someone else

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astra said:

kirkeng said:

In all fairness an AIO jar is essentially sterilized substrate, I fail to see how this would be a mold magnet. Can be fruited as is crumbled or used as spawn to more substrate pasteurized or sterilized, it would be no more a mold magnet than traditional grain spawn, unless I’m missing something?

Edit: I mean shit blue helix essentially used AIO jars, at least the concept is similar… going off memory here by the way I may be thinking of someone else

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Uh No, he did not. Before you weigh in get your facts straight, please.

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PuffM4gicDr4gon said:

To me pans are just cool. I look at them as like a tinkering project. Something fun to do.

One advantage I see with the dreamer tubs is by centralizing your humidity source between four tubs you don't have to buy four sets of air pumps and stones or an obnoxiously loud large pump. Tents seem more efficient cost wise to scale up to bulk but require babying from my understanding. A dreamer tub is just the happy medium between the two. It gives the ease of dialing in of a jcm but with more growing space at a lower cost per tub.

I don't see myself building a dreamer tub setup anytime soon, but I do see the advantage of being able to further dial in fresh air in my jcm without having to buy a whole new air pump.

I'm new to this so maybe I shouldn't be experimenting, but I'm going into this with the understanding that there's going to be a lot of failure and a lot to learn. I really do appreciate all the advice you've given me Astra even if I don't always follow it. I just want play pan mad scientist

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kirkeng said:

astra said:

kirkeng said:

In all fairness an AIO jar is essentially sterilized substrate, I fail to see how this would be a mold magnet. Can be fruited as is crumbled or used as spawn to more substrate pasteurized or sterilized, it would be no more a mold magnet than traditional grain spawn, unless I’m missing something?

Edit: I mean shit blue helix essentially used AIO jars, at least the concept is similar… going off memory here by the way I may be thinking of someone else

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Uh No, he did not. Before you weigh in get your facts straight, please.

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Ok you had me look it up,
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26836048/fpart/all

In this log he sterilizes substrate in a bag and inoculates with lc, crumbles in trays and fruits. Bag contents consist of grain and substrate materials. Explain how this differs from an AIO jar aside from the use of a bag?

I made it clear I was uncertain and basing off memory, I’m weighing in because I’m curious as to why you view it as a mold magnet? I’m simply trying to understand…

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Huskies said:

I had a sketchy jar, and I had opened up some composted cow manure for plants. I put the sketchy jar with the composted cow manure and so far the Bisporus is happy, I think. Never tried that before but so far everything seems happy.





Yeti and something else I forget, probably a mutant jar.




Meanwhile, I have a cake that was precased in its container, its colonized and in a freezer bag with water at the bottom. No signs of pins yet. Any hints?

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Well damn, they do seem very happy to me