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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 3
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GenesisCorrupted said:
It has only been about three days and I’m seeing growth starting on my telephone brand agar.

I’m curious if this is just a bad run of contaminated agar powder that people were getting or something. Are people still having a problem using this brand? I want to know if I should get more of this having avoided the tainted batch, or if they ruined the recipe and it’s brand can no longer be trusted.


I answered my theory on why some people have problems with telephone agar a few days ago when you first asked. Maybe try that suggestion if you run into problems.

1) people have problems with everything.
2) most the problems are self created and have little to do with the base materials.
3) it's probably still one of the most used agar and the majority of people using it don't have problems.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: hellofresh] * 1
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or.... it's melamine and not actually agarose...:crazy2:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 1
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rough ashlar vs perfect ashlar ect


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 2
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Nichrome said:
or.... it's melamine and not actually agarose...:crazy2:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: hellofresh] * 1
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hellofresh said:
GenesisCorrupted said:
It has only been about three days and I’m seeing growth starting on my telephone brand agar.

I’m curious if this is just a bad run of contaminated agar powder that people were getting or something. Are people still having a problem using this brand? I want to know if I should get more of this having avoided the tainted batch, or if they ruined the recipe and it’s brand can no longer be trusted.


I answered my theory on why some people have problems with telephone agar a few days ago when you first asked. Maybe try that suggestion if you run into problems.

1) people have problems with everything.
2) most the problems are self created and have little to do with the base materials.
3) it's probably still one of the most used agar and the majority of people using it don't have problems.


I’m sorry I didn’t see it.
That’s what I’m hoping.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja] * 1
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Yeah, I've been thinking about relocating them, but it seems overly harsh and territorial. I would probably never kill another mammal that didn't pose a direct threat against my kids or myself.

I mean, c'mon, I feed people too, look at what destruction they cause. It's a silly thing to do with the species that's fucking up your planet, but I hate to see them go hungry :shrug: If there's one thing mushrooms taught me, it's we are all intrinsically valuable and we're all in this together. Vermin is the most hypocritical category we have come up with.

Anyway, they are easy to catch. I've worked a lot with (injured, stressed, unpredictable) animals and know about zoonoses, know my way with the appropriate hygiene, have had the proper jabs etc. But thanks for the heads-up.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 4
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If the tables were turned do you think they would treat you the same as you do them?

I respect your compassion but I loathe mice. And when we do fall as a species, they will proliferate from our demise. Swarming across, beneath, and above....

Edited by LewDoja (03/29/25 06:08 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja] * 2
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LewDoja said:
If the tables were turned do you think they would treat you the same as you do them?

I respect your compassion but I loathe mice. And when we do fall as a species, they will proliferate from our demise. Swarming across, beneath, and above....


Mice are adorable, but pose a constant risk to civilized living. They'll eat everything, chew through wires, foul food storage, poop everywhere (especially on the food they just finished eating), eat your shrooms, and they will bite if cornered.

Cats will destroy mice, and then they eat them, it's not a waste, 3 birds, one stone. Plaything, food, and you're mouse free.  Plus you have a cat. I don't have one but my boyfriend does. He lives rural, you need them there. Sweet little bugger. (cat, boyfriend too)

Female mice can give birth to 100 babies a year. And their babies, and their babies, etc. A few mice can turn into an overwhelming infestation of mice.

All the same is true of rats, but they're bigger and meaner, and eat more. Rats (well, their fleas) caused the plague, after the Catholic church encouraged a war on cats for being "friends of witches" or some shit.

I'm fine with mice existing, just not where I am.

Cats became semi-domesticated as soon as people started agriculture, 30,000 years after we started having pet wolves / dogs in caves.

Cats are the universe's gift to keep us relatively free of mice.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja]
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LewDoja said:
If the tables were turned do you think they would treat you the same as you do them?




lol what?  they don't have the capacity to intellectualize existence to that point.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: dinosaurs] * 3
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: hellofresh]
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hellofresh said:
GenesisCorrupted said:
It has only been about three days and I’m seeing growth starting on my telephone brand agar.

I’m curious if this is just a bad run of contaminated agar powder that people were getting or something. Are people still having a problem using this brand? I want to know if I should get more of this having avoided the tainted batch, or if they ruined the recipe and it’s brand can no longer be trusted.


I answered my theory on why some people have problems with telephone agar a few days ago when you first asked. Maybe try that suggestion if you run into problems.

1) people have problems with everything.
2) most the problems are self created and have little to do with the base materials.
3) it's probably still one of the most used agar and the majority of people using it don't have problems.


:whathesaid:

I've been using telephone brand agar for 3+ months with zero issues. Its super cheap too I can get it for less than $2 per pack. Over those 3 months I think I've done over a dozen batches of agar.

@Rev lol those are rats not mice :lol: freakonomics recently did a 3 part series on rats and iirc they said they weren't responsible for the plague.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja]
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LewDoja said:
If the tables were turned do you think they would treat you the same as you do them?

I respect your compassion but I loathe mice. And when we do fall as a species, they will proliferate from our demise. Swarming across, beneath, and above....


I get you, Lew. I also get you, Nektar. Nowadays I live in an apartment and these are the first years of my life without a cat (they can't go outside here).

You know, if war would break out here, most countries would never in hell accept my queer kids and my radical self als refugees. Especially not the country you live in. But if you ever need a refugium or the stuff you need to eek out an existence in diaspora, I'll help you out wherever I can. Reciprocity is a nice thing. But I don't let it get in the way of my morals.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: dinosaurs] * 1
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dinosaurs said:
LewDoja said:
If the tables were turned do you think they would treat you the same as you do them?




lol what?  they don't have the capacity to intellectualize existence to that point.


I would argue that churpee isn't intellectualizing but empathizing.

And rodents are likely better at empathy than people, as they're far more attuned to pheromones and quite capable of having a theory of mind.

When I accidentally step on my rat's tail, he gives me a very shallow nip just to let me know that I'm standing there. The only time he has ever drawn blood is when he got super excited to pull a piece of food out of my hand.

And this was the most dominating of the four rats that we had, the alpha male.

That said, rodents are omnivores. They will prey on insects so it's not like they're pacifist animals.  I imagine if they understood what we are doing to the environment, and the environment of their children, they would exterminate us if it was in there power.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tree frog]
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TF, you have pet rats?

We had a bunch of them for a number of years. They were amazing pets. So sweet and smart. I loved those girls.

They're illegal in Alberta. Being caught with them is a $5k fine plus the animals are destroyed.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon] * 5
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Yeah, we kept four of them as pets over COVID. And I kept them a lot when I was a kid.

We are down to one very old rat, he's almost three.  To stubborn to die.  Back legs don't work and he just drags himself around.  And because all of the other ones that he used to fight with are gone, we just let him roam the bottom floor of the house freely.

Hence me accidentally stepping on his tail sometimes.

Edit 3k posts!

Maybe I will take a break for a few days :lol:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tree frog] * 1
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Most mammals have at least the same levels of empathy. The bond between a cow and her calf, for example, doesn't differ at all from the bond between a human mother and her baby. It's the exact same oxytocin positive feedback loop. Yet we treat the calf as an industry byproduct.

Totally different species: when my kids were conceived, we noticed because the cat became very defensive about my ex. The cat knew she was pregnant before the hCG levels were high enough to be visible on a pregnancy test. And protected her from, apparently, dangerous animals like our friends, dogs and my brother.

I know that's a load of hippie bogus to most of you. To me, it's just more proof that we, humans, are far from the kings of the rock.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 2
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I love you Churpee and you and you're family are always welcome at my place!

@Tree

Aren't the fireworks fun!?!

Edited by LewDoja (03/30/25 03:14 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja] * 2
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This little freak was my kitchen buddy last summer.  Little critter is lapping up some chicken jus there. The bottom jaw didn't have any flesh and was just a bone jutting out but the little bugger knew how to work it.



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja] * 2
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I'm all for live and let live and all that hippie shit, but all bets are off when it comes to vermin. Fuck mice, rats, squirrels, chipmunks, groundhogs, et al. Growing up, we always had a garden, and the above listed creatures made it their life's work to fuck that garden over. Not just have a snack, but actually destroy plants beyond repair, and leave behind mites and ticks to finish the job.

If I didn't live in a subdivision, I would be going through many boxes of shotgun shells a week. And I should probably get some kitty treats for the cats that roam around the yard. Saw one with a huge rat in it's mouth one day, coming out of my crawlspace. Good kitty!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 2
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Nichrome said:
This little freak was my kitchen buddy last summer.  Little critter is lapping up some chicken jus there. The bottom jaw didn't have any flesh and was just a bone jutting out but the little bugger knew how to work it.




Holy fuck nuts!

Edited by LewDoja (03/30/25 03:36 PM)

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