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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: SkanskKorv] * 2
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SkanskKorv said:
Then something might be wrong... It's day 9 since inoculation and no signs at all so far.

What could be causing this? I don't see any contamination at this point either, could it be that it's too wet? I've read somewhere that it could take up to 3 weeks but that seems very long to me



Just relax. Spore to cakes can take weeks to show visible growth. Pan mycelium is also finer, more whispy than cubes. It my take a couple of extra days growth before you can see it on a cake. When I do cakes I noc them up and put them out of mind for a couple of weeks. If I check on them every day I just get anxiety.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: RoscoeReturns]
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How do you keep mice out of outdoor stuff? I have this neverending battle with rodents / birds and outdoor beds. But now the little fuckers have decided to dig up all of my oyster buckets. I've closed the buckets off with heavy skillets, terracotta plates and the like, and this night the fuckers gnawed through the side of one of the buckets. Any tips? I am not prepared to kill the mice, they are as entitled to life as I am, just want them out of my goddamn buckets.
In the past I hung up the buckets, but don't have the space for that anymore (they'd hang in full sun here).


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 2
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You can buy predator urine online. It's one of the ways we try to deter rabbits from getting in our garden beds.

Coyote piss is what we use but I imagine there's also others that would work.

Minimizing grain spawn is another tactic. Rodents can smell those grains and that's probably what they are after more than the mycelium or anything else in the bucket.

Like you could do a bag of rice bran and sawdust and use that to inoculate straw if you wanted.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 1
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How good are you at constructing mazes?

Seriously though, I'm not sure what kind of deterrent to recommend. :hug:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tree frog] * 1
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The stupid thing is, I went with woodchips with 5% bran for all outdoor projects, years ago. Expand spawn until you're at 1 - 1.5 % grain.

Then I finally joined the boards and wanted to try everything at once and had all these grains I wanted to test out :sad:

Predator piss is a good one, thanks. I tried using cat hair, but they used that to build a nest that spawned more hungry mice.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Churpee Choozle]
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Chicken wire is another thing I use. Less so with buckets.

But it works well for keeping critters out of open air projects, like burying maitaki blocks in laundry totes for example.

Oh, setting your buckets up on breeze blocks would probably help too.  If you don't give them a place to stand and chew at your buckets, they might look for easier food.


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
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I'd be running up that road
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tree frog] * 5
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tree frog said:
You can buy predator urine online.




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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tree frog]
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Tree, I'm ashamed that didn't occur to me. Simple logic.

Yeah, the thing is, they feed from the compost bin and I feed them extra when they have a nest. Damn critters haven't had a hungry day in their lives. I cannot refuse food to anything that looks cute. The buckets are more like toys to them. I tried just feeding them millet, next to my grow area. They eat half of the millet and then ravage the buckets.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 1
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Yeah, the baby's especially really like to chew on plastic. I don't know if it's just because their teeth are growing faster then and it gives them something nice to gnaw on, or if it's that it smells like plants since that's what it comes from and they have a really good sense of smell.

We kept four rats over the end of COVID, we have one still running around. But now that he's old he has free run of the lower level of the house and he doesn't chew on anything. But it was a major problem when they were little. Anything plastic they would just chew the fuck out of.


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tree frog] * 1
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Churpee, you've gotta convert burn barrels to grow buckets. 

Get a gun and blast a metal barrel full of holes and voila, sturdy bucket :cookiemonster:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Dala] * 1
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Luckily for humanity I live in Europe and can't get my hands on a gun.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tree frog]
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tree frog said:
koma23 said:


How do we do PE grows today? spawn: sub ratio? Do we compress? And what about casing, still yes? And is it still pasteurized 50 50+? How do you pasteurize; bucket tek or termometer and a pot? Thank you <3



Like this.  No casing needed.  The spawn ratio is etc in the thread. And I would suggest watching the video to understand how to compress and top dress.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27426583



Thank you. I remember reading through that thread some time ago, but didn't realize he uses a pseudo casing also for PE.

Is this how you grow PE too? Applying a CV pseudo casing at spawn?

I thought that a pseudo casing isn't really applicable as the mycelium basically just colonizes it ...

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: koma23] * 2
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I only have solutions that will kill the mice.
My favorite is to introduce predators.
I have a murder of crows that enjoy visiting my yard.
Rats and mice really have to move on eggshells around here because crows really love killing them.
The only exception is the squirrel which I think is too much of a fight for a crow to even try.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: koma23]
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koma23 said:
tree frog said:
koma23 said:


How do we do PE grows today? spawn: sub ratio? Do we compress? And what about casing, still yes? And is it still pasteurized 50 50+? How do you pasteurize; bucket tek or termometer and a pot? Thank you <3



Like this.  No casing needed.  The spawn ratio is etc in the thread. And I would suggest watching the video to understand how to compress and top dress.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27426583



Thank you. I remember reading through that thread some time ago, but didn't realize he uses a pseudo casing also for PE.

Is this how you grow PE too? Applying a CV pseudo casing at spawn?

I thought that a pseudo casing isn't really applicable as the mycelium basically just colonizes it ...



The whole reason he developed this approach was for PE.

I don't grow cubes myself.  But if I did, I would grow PE and use his tek.

And a casing should colonize btw.  Just not to the point of overlay.  Most of what a casing is doing is holding a lot of water near the surface, so the mycelium can use it to mature well.

A true casing serves some other purposes.  But, for PE.  The psuedo-casing seems to do the trick.


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I'd make a deal with God
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tree frog]
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It has only been about three days and I’m seeing growth starting on my telephone brand agar.

I’m curious if this is just a bad run of contaminated agar powder that people were getting or something. Are people still having a problem using this brand? I want to know if I should get more of this having avoided the tainted batch, or if they ruined the recipe and it’s brand can no longer be trusted.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
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Hey all, have a two parter.

First, do these jars look good to go? This was my first time making millet jars. Everything looks good just not as thick as I expected. And yes, I know I overfilled them. Lesson learned there!



Lastly, I've had these two Zip/Faht Tek fully colonized for almost 6 weeks. No pins. I lost 3 to contam (moisture pooled up around the edges, lesson learned). I've increased FAE as I've noticed some light discoloration in a few spots and moisture pooling. I know the LC is clean (tested) and the grain was clean when I went S2B.






Thanks!

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 3
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Churpee Choozle said:
Tree, I'm ashamed that didn't occur to me. Simple logic.

Yeah, the thing is, they feed from the compost bin and I feed them extra when they have a nest. Damn critters haven't had a hungry day in their lives. I cannot refuse food to anything that looks cute. The buckets are more like toys to them. I tried just feeding them millet, next to my grow area. They eat half of the millet and then ravage the buckets.



Kind of like a bear or a trash dog (garbage eater), they will have to be relocated or terminated. Feeding vermin is the cause and the now you're dealing with the consequence.... sorry to sound harsh.

They reproduce at extremely high speeds with out the extra food charity.
They can also climb and jump. 

They're are non lethal methods of capturing such as the bucket with something that rotates on top. They fall in and can't get out if it's slippery such as peanut oil (also acts as bait).

Edited by LewDoja (03/29/25 03:25 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Churpee Choozle]
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Churpee Choozle said:
I feed them extra when they have a nest. Damn critters haven't had a hungry day in their lives. I cannot refuse food to anything that looks cute.



The fatality rate for hantavirus pulmonary syndrome (HPS) is approximately 38%. It is spread by mice. People can and do die from this.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: psilygoose] * 1
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psilygoose said:
Churpee Choozle said:
I feed them extra when they have a nest. Damn critters haven't had a hungry day in their lives. I cannot refuse food to anything that looks cute.



The fatality rate for hantavirus pulmonary syndrome (HPS) is approximately 38%. It is spread by mice. People can and do die from this.




I wanted to bring up this point but had no stats...

Thank you for that.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: psilygoose] * 2
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:whathesaid:

Also, while ticks transmit Lyme disease, they get it from mice.

Peppermint water spray is a good deterrent, respray after rain.


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