Generic said:

got a bunch of clean jars that have been 100% colonized for a few days now.  planning on making hemp bags monday to fruit outside.

I'm also curious about experimenting but I only visit the lab every few days or so, where there's a thermostat and 70-80degree  temps.  I'm thinking of fruiting some indoors there, but I won't be there to mist but every few days.

Maybe bad timing for growing perhaps?

  I'm curious about astra's sterile sub, and if that would work well colonizing in xls bags, then opened for fruit development, maybe similar to faht's ziplock method.  could that do well with some neglect?  cyans &/or bispos.


Sterile substrate only works well with 100% clean/axenic spawn


I also have mini monos and would love to do that, would sterile sub work well with that method?

As long as your spawn is flawless it should work, but i've never attempted to fruit pans in mini monos tbh

lastly, are temperatures good for me to plant outdoors in oregon now? 

how about up on the mountainside where it's always at least 10degrees colder, would they just wait for ideal temperatures? 

I live in japan so its pretty much impossible for me to answer that question.

when do you think they'd decide to fruit?

Only if the growing conditions are favorable.

how about fruiting them in bags or tubs where i can watch them/mist them more, where it is unheated and much colder?

Can't tell if you're being serious tbh..

(because the wood stove heat makes things too dry)  how would they do with cold temps in the 40s at night?

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Generic said:

the neglect i'm referring to is not being able to see them but every few days.  It's dry inside where its 70-80degrees because of the furnace.  obviously no grow tent, so i guess i'm referring to being able to mist them while they're fruiting or something.  i'd plan on an aged/leached horse manure/hay or horse manure/hemp or hemp only substrate (is that a thing?)  grown in tubs or bags. 

so pretty similar to cubes, but misting is a consideration.

last time i grew pan bisporus was 15 years ago in a monotub with misting, so i'm trying to overcome outdated information, how helpful misting is for pans or whatnot.

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Would you read the last 20 or 30 pages of this thread. I think it would help you tremendously.

astra said:

Would you read the last 20 or 30 pages of this thread. I think it would help you tremendously.

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astra said:

Maybe bad timing for growing perhaps?

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Generic said:

astra said:

Would you read the last 20 or 30 pages of this thread. I think it would help you tremendously.

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I've read much more than the last 30 pages of this thread... been following for months.  sorry for the ignorance, and so much respect for your wisdom and experience and for all the help you give out on here.  I respect you as an elder, and i mean that in the nicest way...

I've only been planning on fruiting outdoors with bisporus, but got carried away with cyans since i've never tried them and was doing a bunch of clean work anyway.  Asking to fruit in cold conditions was stupid, i see, i'm just brainstorming. 

astra said:

Maybe bad timing for growing perhaps?

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just to clarify, if doing a monotub, or mini-mono, or fahtlock, I take it you're saying now's not a good time if i'm not there to mist them?  I got the impression that fahtlocks could go well without misting, or maybe im mixing species info...  or a monotub for a few days could be fine, especially with bisporus which could be tolerant of more CO2

70-80degrees F is pretty good temperature for pans, no?

It lookes like I do have extra jars of axenic spawn to experiment with

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I appreciate the kind reply, and no i don't take offense in being called elder/old/senior.. no worries.

Also i don't think asking questions is stupid even if they sound stupid to the more experienced folk. Bad timing happens to everyone. I've had to discard entire grows because of a last minute request for me to fly abroad (usually norway), it is what it is.

Now, when it comes to experiments, there are no rules that forbids anyone from experimenting just remember the golden rule of thumb, always keep your expectations realistic so you don't get crushed by the hammer of disappointment.

On the fruiting question, fahtlocs are the tits. I can't guarantee the fruits will be plentiful but i've fruited them in sealed containers outside on zero manure coir/verm and hosed down like an asylum perp and they still did fine except the yield was VERY poor in terms of BE.


Last but not least i do not over complicate my grows by adding extra vectors of stress contamination like getting cO2 measuring, in fact, i don't think i have ever worried about cO2. As long as your sterile technique is flawless, your spawn clean and provide the right conditions for them to fruit, you'll be fine. Its just not possible to emulate someone else's growing style due to how different our environments are. Temp and Rh wise, growing conditions under a sewer or a bedroom can be vastly different. As long as you keep dialing the variables I don't see why you wouldn't succeed unless you were planning to fruit them inside the freezer or submerged in an aquarium tank. Don't overthink it, just do what you want to do and we'll go from there. Best of luck!

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I'm used to people assuming i'm a nasty ass bitch because the way i post, straight up blunt, etc. The 'like' rating system does not necessarily represent a person's moral character. I'd love and appreciate if people would just stop rating my damn posts lol as i'm not used to spoon feed or sugarcoat my responses. (this is a general statement btw)

RoscoeReturns said:

Finally got some pan bispo pins!

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kirkeng said:

@generic, Bispo in a tote works very well albeit neglect could be challenged depending what your goals are. Times I’ve neglected mine more than usual they grow but they don’t look happy. Personally Bispo is such a beauty when in full form it’s advised to give them what they want to be as beautiful as they want to be.

Surely you could dial it in depending on environment of grow room. When the rh is high in my room I can get away with minimal misting, not full neglect but a mist once a day suffices, this is assuming 40+ rh and lower temps in my experience. Surely a minute of misting before bed is not much but no judgment we all live different lives.

While they are more co2 tolerant that doesn’t mean they really like it I’d say, based off sad state of morphology in choked out bisporus. Just my 2cents though but you can do it!

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kirkeng said:

Thanks mate they really do like water, water brings out the night sky in their caps! They’ll tolerate some drying but then they lose their luster rather fast I think, keep ‘em wet and they’ll smile at you. I dunno I chase aesthetics.

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Yeah I don't like it when they turn gray.  I love those gorgeous olive and brick caps.

To me it's a signal that they are happy and that makes me feel good.

Warmer weather is coming.  I may have to repeat this little dub tub experiment with a few modifications.  It was mostly open-air fruited once the whispy mold got really bad lol