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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Phaethon]
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Does anyone here have success doing G2G to bags in a SAB. My oldest is moving out this summer, till then I don’t have a space to build a flow hood. I’m currently only doing jars, but want to play around with some bags.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Phaethon]
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I turned the handles down and I can fit 4 wide mouth pint jars in a my 6 quart Instant pot.
Thanks.

Edited by The Tao (02/26/25 12:40 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Breadly710]
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Moderate success.  You can get the smaller bags or run smaller grain jars for inoculation (or both) to make it a little easier.  Supplemented gourmets need very little grain spawn.  I do 1 qt per four bags, but I could do half as much and be fine.

But, trying to inoculate bags was what finally encouraged me to move on from the SAB.  I only tried it once and it was a pita.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tree frog]
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tree frog said:
Moderate success.  You can get the smaller bags or run smaller grain jars for inoculation (or both) to make it a little easier.  Supplemented gourmets need very little grain spawn.  I do 1 qt per four bags, but I could do half as much and be fine.

But, trying to inoculate bags was what finally encouraged me to move on from the SAB.  I only tried it once and it was a pita.



Yeah I currently only have done bags with LC, and that is kind of a pita

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Breadly710]
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3 pints should be a enough for a smaller shoebox than right? I plan on doing two or three. So spreading my sterilization out over a couple days might be ideal.

How much material for my substrate and spawn should I look at buying?

Edited by Mub (02/26/25 02:02 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: The Tao]
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I usually run my insta for 2 hours at high pressure and can fit 5 regular pints in it. After soaking my rye for a minimum of 24 hours, I prep up to 15 jars at a time, pressure cook same day.

I use legit ships in my lids and use rtv to seal them in, I use filter stickers from outgrow(replacing old with new every use)

The only contamn I see is from making the lids too fast (usually resulting in a poor ship seal)

Hope this helps!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Breadly710]
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Breadly710 said:
tree frog said:
Moderate success.  You can get the smaller bags or run smaller grain jars for inoculation (or both) to make it a little easier.  Supplemented gourmets need very little grain spawn.  I do 1 qt per four bags, but I could do half as much and be fine.

But, trying to inoculate bags was what finally encouraged me to move on from the SAB.  I only tried it once and it was a pita.



Yeah I currently only have done bags with LC, and that is kind of a pita



how is lc in bag a pita? I was planning on messing with bags also but was going to use glc, it seems pretty simple to inject rather than opening the bag in a sab

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Is the verm on my pf tek cakes too dry? I have been misting like a mad man but it seems to stay the same colour.

My verm is quite coarse, so i have tried to grind some fine. Both seems dry though. But the uncovered bits of cake is quite nicely covered in small droplets and they are beginning to pin. Just dont want to fuck it up now by letting it dry, or over mist the little shits.

Edited by hyperspace_viking (02/26/25 02:37 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: hyperspace_viking] * 2
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hyperspace_viking said:
Is the verm on my pf tek cakes too dry? I have been misting like a mad man but it seems to stay the same colour.

My verm is quite coarse, so i have tried to grind some fine. Both seems dry though. But the uncovered bits of cake is quite nicely covered in small droplets and they are beginning to pin. Just dont want to fuck it up now by letting it dry, or over mist the little shits.



Welcome friend, you've come to the right place.

My question for you is what are you doing to help retain the humidity in your chamber?

See Water Tub Tek and pair it with a Fahtloc for optimal PF tek Fruiting conditions.

Next time I recommend ditching the verm layer and using prepared coco coir instead.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mike-ologist]
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mike-ologist said:
I usually run my insta for 2 hours at high pressure and can fit 5 regular pints in it. After soaking my rye for a minimum of 24 hours, I prep up to 15 jars at a time, pressure cook same day.

I use legit ships in my lids and use rtv to seal them in, I use filter stickers from outgrow(replacing old with new every use)

The only contamn I see is from making the lids too fast (usually resulting in a poor ship seal)

Hope this helps!



Do you have the 8qt insta? 5 pints sounds like a lot for the 6

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mub]
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Mub said:
mike-ologist said:
I usually run my insta for 2 hours at high pressure and can fit 5 regular pints in it. After soaking my rye for a minimum of 24 hours, I prep up to 15 jars at a time, pressure cook same day.

I use legit ships in my lids and use rtv to seal them in, I use filter stickers from outgrow(replacing old with new every use)

The only contamn I see is from making the lids too fast (usually resulting in a poor ship seal)

Hope this helps!



Do you have the 8qt insta? 5 pints sounds like a lot for the 6



It's a tight fit, I never measured actual volume 😅😅


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mike-ologist]
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Wouldn't surprise me too much if 5 regular mouth jars fit in the 6 qt IP. You can fit 8 wide mouth pints per layer in the 23 qt Presto, vs 10 regular mouth pints per layer. I don't have any regular mouth pint jars though.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Axman]
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Thanks buddy, it would seem like it.

I have made a water tub, although i have added some 6 mm holes in the sides of the tub to keep the lid on, and only opening to mist and fan. I have had 2 failed monotubs, and i suspected the grow room to contribute to contams, as it is quite dusty and impossible to keep clean, so i didnt like keeping the lid turned so the dust could fall in.
I mist 3 times a day, morning, late afternoon and night. The sides of the box is always foggy, so i think the humidity is quite high.

The verm just doesnt look wet or changes in color with misting.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: hyperspace_viking]
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So if I can get 5 pint jars in the InstaPot  about what size of tub would be appropriate for me to grow in? Also how much material should I be ordering as far as spawn and substrate ?

Anyone have any good recommendations on pint jars?

Edited by Mub (02/26/25 05:05 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: hyperspace_viking]
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hyperspace_viking said:
Thanks buddy, it would seem like it.

I have made a water tub, although i have added some 6 mm holes in the sides of the tub to keep the lid on, and only opening to mist and fan. I have had 2 failed monotubs, and i suspected the grow room to contribute to contams, as it is quite dusty and impossible to keep clean, so i didnt like keeping the lid turned so the dust could fall in.
I mist 3 times a day, morning, late afternoon and night. The sides of the box is always foggy, so i think the humidity is quite high.

The verm just doesnt look wet or changes in color with misting.



The verm color might not change a whole lot. Moisture/fog on the tub is due to the temperature difference between the inside of the tub and temperature of the room, and not always indicative of relative humidity in the tub. I'd suggest making yourself at least one Ziploc+Watertub combo for one of your cakes and seeing how it does in there.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mub]
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Mub said:
So if I can get 5 pint jars in the InstaPot  about what size of tub would be appropriate for me to grow in? Also how much material should I be ordering as far as spawn and substrate ?

Anyone have any good recommendations on pint jars?



I suggest 6qt Shoeboxes. Its an older tek but it still works well. You can do 1 myco quart to 2 quarts of substrate. For substrate I use Coco Coir. A lot of people use Coco Bliss 650g bricks and hydrate them with standard tap water with no ill effects.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Axman]
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Here's what I do (prepare for unscientific science):

I bucket tek a standard sized pet store brick of coir.

While that's pasteurizing I take a larger flat tub with a lid (Actual dimensions are like 2ftx4ftx6in), I cut a hole approximately 4inx4in for fae and wash the whole tub with soapy water.

Once the sub is ready I cover my fae port with filter media(a disposable tyvek lab coat offers micron filtration) On the inside of the lid so any crevasse is outside of the tub leaving less room for contam to hide.

For cubes I semipack a two to 3 inch layer of sub, toss in 3 pints spawn, mix thoroughly and put the lid on.

I usually colonize in 2 to 4 weeks with fruits about a week after. Decent yields at 2+Oz dried or more per tub, and I have yet to loose flushes to ambient contamn. The myc yellows and falls off around flush 3 to 5 but with proper humidity control the fruits get big.

TO BE NOTED:
This works great for me and my purpose and style. It is kind of a pick and pull from many teks and I am still improving the process with every grow. Also, I don't concern myself too much with spawn ratios, I kinda just pick a number of jars and use what I feel looks like enough sub.

This has worked for cubes, ochras and antler reishi.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja] * 1
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LewDoja said:
First off I'd like to say thank you and an amazing job asking a question with relevant information and quality pics (with back-lighting)

I have no experience with peptone... but they do look kind of off.

Pic #9 7:00-8ish I'd take a teeny-tiny sample or two from leading edge.

Maybe some others as well.

Do you still have the ms and or t1 plates to gander?



Thank you for your reply and your feedback, LewDoja.
Next time i pour plates i will use just water, agar and maltextract.
What do you mean by 'they look kind of off'?
Do they look like there is a contamination or just weak/poor growth?
Will do the transfers next weekend and post an update here.
The germ plates (T0-plates) have already been tossed.
Pictures of T1-plates are attached.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: psychedelicmind]
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I am considering to top fruit this contaminated jar. How to do it? Simply apply a layer of substrate on top of it?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ParanoidGuy]
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Usually yeah, not sure it'll do very much good - but hey ya never know.

Think top fruit is more for bacterial jars cuz mold is so aggressive.:shrug:

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