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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BonsaidMycelium]
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BonsaidMycelium said:
Thanks man. What is most shocking to me is how quickly the Starry Night colonized the BR all the way on the left. I did them all on 2/15. It will be fully colonized by tomorrow night it looks like.

Any special considerations for the strain? Im having good success with cubes in the fahtzip method, should be seeing pins in a day or two. Do SN/APE types need the same kind of process or something different?

Thanks!



Some people use a casing layer for PE type cubes, but I personally run them like normal. Do some research on late casing and see if that fits your fancy.

If you do agar, you could always plop a piece of rice onto it to keep the fast growing mycelium around if it fruits well.

I need to get my hands on some SN at some point, I've always liked be aesthetics of it.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Two quick questions.
1) The fruit on the top of this mound stopped growing a week ago before any of the other fruit on the sides started pinning. Should I harvest, toss or leave these presumably aborted fruit on top?


2) These sporilated onto their skirts so I removed the skirts and figure I could use them to start another batch from directly; is this a possibility and what would be the simplest or best way to go about it? Thanks!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mark_M]
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Mark_M said:
Two quick questions.
1) The fruit on the top of this mound stopped growing a week ago before any of the other fruit on the sides started pinning. Should I harvest, toss or leave these presumably aborted fruit on top?

2) These sporilated onto their skirts so I removed the skirts and figure I could use them to start another batch from directly; is this a possibility and what would be the simplest or best way to go about it? Thanks!




1. It's hard to picture which one you are talking about but if the cap changed color and it stopped growing than it is most likely an abort. You can either toss or leave the mycelium will take care of it how it sees fit.

2. Unless you're planning on putting the spore coated veil onto agar, I don't see a use for them. Since fruiting is done in open air they are in contact with a fair bit of contamination. Any efforts to put them to grain would most likely end in contamination. The best course of action would to take a spore print from one, and also a biopsy from the inside of the stipe to agar.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Axman]
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Axman said:
Mark_M said:
Two quick questions.
1) The fruit on the top of this mound stopped growing a week ago before any of the other fruit on the sides started pinning. Should I harvest, toss or leave these presumably aborted fruit on top?

2) These sporilated onto their skirts so I removed the skirts and figure I could use them to start another batch from directly; is this a possibility and what would be the simplest or best way to go about it? Thanks!




1. It's hard to picture which one you are talking about but if the cap changed color and it stopped growing than it is most likely an abort. You can either toss or leave the mycelium will take care of it how it sees fit.

2. Unless you're planning on putting the spore coated veil onto agar, I don't see a use for them. Since fruiting is done in open air they are in contact with a fair bit of contamination. Any efforts to put them to grain would most likely end in contamination. The best course of action would to take a spore print from one, and also a biopsy from the inside of the stipe to agar.



1) See red circle below... My inclination has been to leave to the mycelium as you suggest, unless they might have meaningful content...


2) Thanks. Have not done anything yet with agar but might be a fun experiment. I imagine you'd know pretty quickly if you had contamination, yes? Thanks again - Mark

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mark_M]
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Mark_M said:
1) See red circle below... My inclination has been to leave to the mycelium as you suggest, unless they might have meaningful content...


2) Thanks. Have not done anything yet with agar but might be a fun experiment. I imagine you'd know pretty quickly if you had contamination, yes? Thanks again - Mark



1) Content? as in psilocybin? Quite possibly, but I'd recommend grabbing them before they start to rot if you so desire. They do look like they are aborting.

2) Agar is the best way to test for contamination as well as germinating spores, in my opinion.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Axman]
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Can you have a look at my agar plates, please?
It's cubensis 'Puerto Rico' 2nd transfer was made on february, 8th.
Agar recipe: 500ml water, 10g agar, 7,5g malt extract, 0.5g peptone
Not sure if it is pure cubensis myc or if there is anything else growing.
Before i started to use peptone in my agar the myc was also tormentose, but it looked more organized.
Thanks in advance!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Axman]
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Axman said:
Mark_M said:
1) See red circle below... My inclination has been to leave to the mycelium as you suggest, unless they might have meaningful content...


2) Thanks. Have not done anything yet with agar but might be a fun experiment. I imagine you'd know pretty quickly if you had contamination, yes? Thanks again - Mark



1) Content? as in psilocybin? Quite possibly, but I'd recommend grabbing them before they start to rot if you so desire. They do look like they are aborting.

2) Agar is the best way to test for contamination as well as germinating spores, in my opinion.



1) Yes exactly, these are golden teachers. 2) Thanks, will see if I can get that together, might be wishful thinking but would be fun to try and to learn.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Sarnath] * 1
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Sarnath said:
Phaethon said:
If you leave the lid on, you can take tissue samples from the substrate itself, and clone whole mushrooms (even the outside should be sterile if it's never contacted unfiltered air). They won't grow very pretty without fresh air, though.



"From the substrate itself", as in taking a small sample of the mycelium surface with an inoculation loop and putting that onto some agar?



Yes, exactly. You can use a scalpel too, I find that a little easier unless you have a stiff loop.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Phaethon]
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How much does dry rye increase in volume during prep? I.e., I know wheat roughly doubles, so I measure 3 jars to dry to make 6 prepped jars, is rye the same? Thanks!

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Hi, i made some transfers and during the process as I wasn’t completely sure how to cut out the transfers from the donor plate (i cut straight down and not at an angle) so I ended up having to remove them in a rough manner and some of them fragmented, I’m not too sure whether the small growth on this plate is the result of simply fragmentation of the myc or contamination, could you tell me?
Ps. I understand i wrote “rhizo” on the plate but it looks far more tomentose, and thats just cause the donor mycelium was rather rhizomorphic




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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: psilygoose] * 1
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psilygoose said:
How much does dry rye increase in volume during prep? I.e., I know wheat roughly doubles, so I measure 3 jars to dry to make 6 prepped jars, is rye the same? Thanks!



2-3 times, I weigh 200-220g per jar dry before soak or boil. If I measure by scoop it's 12 cups dry for roughly 10 quart jars prepped.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: psychedelicmind]
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psychedelicmind said:
Can you have a look at my agar plates, please?
It's cubensis 'Puerto Rico' 2nd transfer was made on february, 8th.
Agar recipe: 500ml water, 10g agar, 7,5g malt extract, 0.5g peptone
Not sure if it is pure cubensis myc or if there is anything else growing.
Before i started to use peptone in my agar the myc was also tormentose, but it looked more organized.
Thanks in advance!




First off I'd like to say thank you and an amazing job asking a question with relevant information and quality pics (with back-lighting)

I have no experience with peptone... but they do look kind of off.

Pic #9 7:00-8ish I'd take a teeny-tiny sample or two from leading edge.

Maybe some others as well.

Do you still have the ms and or t1 plates to gander?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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I put 4 BRF cakes in a tub just 3 days ago. 3 were from the fridge (fully colonized, never cropped); the other had been cropped once. All had an 18 hour soak in water. Tub is 22-24 during the day, down to 15-17 at night, 95% humidity. Indirect sunlight and 6500k LED nearby.

They all have awesome mycelial fuzz. One has a first sprout, about 5mm long.

Seems like I should open it for a little FAE even though it's only been 3 days. Thoughts?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: psilygoose]
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If you're filling to normal Myco qrts levels +/-  75%

You should be fine I'd count on 2.5 × to be safe but if there's a little extra I will put into small jars that fit on top. can also run jars on their side.

@maple

"Pics or it didn't happen"

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Poopscoop]
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Should be good ...
It takes practice along with getting it to stay on the blade, and the removal from the blade can be a bugger as well...

You'll find your grove.

Nice looking plates, did you pour those?

Edited by LewDoja (02/25/25 07:38 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja] * 1
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LewDoja said:
@maple

"Pics or it didn't happen"



Haha OK!





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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: maplepine] * 6
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Look at these prints


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: maplepine] * 2
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maplepine said:
LewDoja said:
@maple

"Pics or it didn't happen"



Haha OK!








Looking good, I don't see any major reasons to change your relative humidity.

While you wait for your first flush to come in I recommend looking into Water Tubs combined with Fahtlocs for optimal PF tek fruiting conditions. As shotgun perlite tubs are old news and we are trying to phase them out.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Axman] * 1
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Axman said:
While you wait for your first flush to come in I recommend looking into Water Tubs combined with Fahtlocs for optimal PF tek fruiting conditions. As shotgun perlite tubs are old news and we are trying to phase them out.



But I have a whole bag of perlite! LOL

Thanks for the tip. I've had a hard time finding the most recent/recommended methods among all the content here :smile:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: maplepine] * 1
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Trust me, I'm still working through two bags of perlite from when I was doing the same thing, put it in your planters and other house plants :laugh2:

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