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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mike-ologist]
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I inoculated this jar on Feb 10th. Shagen once 4 days ago.



It's only 200 ml of hydrated parakeet feed. It's starting to show some signs of bacterial contamination (you know, like droplets around seeds).

It's less than two weeks since inoculation but it's a small amount and I hear that millet never colonizes fully. Would you send it (to a 1.4 liter bucket) or wait and risk increasing contamination?

Thanks in advance!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mush_monkey] * 1
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If I got some mutated mushrooms (in a very nice and good way).
Cloning them will have same mutated traits ? (like different stem, or hat looking cap) ?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mush_monkey] * 1
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mush_monkey said:
I inoculated this jar on Feb 10th. Shagen once 4 days ago.



It's only 200 ml of hydrated parakeet feed. It's starting to show some signs of bacterial contamination (you know, like droplets around seeds).

It's less than two weeks since inoculation but it's a small amount and I hear that millet never colonizes fully. Would you send it (to a 1.4 liter bucket) or wait and risk increasing contamination?

Thanks in advance!



If I was going to send that I’d do it at a low ratio. 1:1. Idk I’d probably toss that tbh. If you’re hurting for mush, let it rip and go 1:1. I’ve seen worse spawn.

Start another project while you wait anyway.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: cybork] * 1
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cybork said:
tree frog said:
The last stage. It should be completely composted.

And generally folks don't use compost as casing, it does work. But most folks will use peat because it is superior.

Compost is good for substrate though.  Especially for Pans etc.  Really not necessary for cubes, and probably not worth the effort tbh. But it does improve fruit morphology (bigger, meatier, etc.)



Great! Thanks.

Do you happen to have a good referral to page about substrate for pans with compost?



Just the official thread really. I know sleepydave has some stuff in his journal that's more specific to home compost.

But generally folks are running 25-50% compost and the rest coir.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: cybork] * 1
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cybork said:
Anyone any idea which compost in what stage in the process is best to use for casing or something else?



I use my compost before it's completely mature. I'm trying to be better with that. There's always egg shells throughout the sub but pans will eventually colonize them also.  Sometimes I won't top the shells with casing when I apply just to watch.  My bin is mostly coffee grounds, fruit/veggie scraps, egg shells and lately just hwfp. No animal manure.

I've been using ratios like tree frog described, but I'm trying my luck with 100% compost right now.  So far the pin set looks nice, but we'll see how they finish.

I'm not very on point with this even though I've been composting for a handful of years now.  Weird we don't have an official composting thread here...confession, I use reddit for the compost subs....just lurking

Edited by stagger (02/21/25 06:24 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 1
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Smellyhobbit said:
If you’re mono is super wet you need to let air do its thing. Depending on the size of your holes you should just open them up.

If you’re like Mike and have huge holes I’d keep the filters, but if they’re like 1/4” holes do not cover them



Yo thanks home! This was the way!

Yeah. The holes are big. Like 2” on each side for a 28qt tub.

After leaving the filters on for a day the mycelium is poking out just a tiny bit.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: stagger]
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Thanks stagger and tree frog. I'll take a further look.

You pasteurize the compost stagger?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Can anyone point me in the right direction to find information on how to grow P. Aztecorum indoors?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Huskies] * 1
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Growing out over the edge now. Wonder how long it will be for it to bridge the gap?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Hotboxer]
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How much of a plate am I supposed to use to inoculate a qt? And what is too much?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie] * 2
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callmehippie said:
How much of a plate am I supposed to use to inoculate a qt? And what is too much?



I use about 1/5. Some people use a whole plate.

Really it’s up to you. The more you put in the faster it goes.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: CosmicIguana]
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CosmicIguana said:
If I got some mutated mushrooms (in a very nice and good way).
Cloning them will have same mutated traits ? (like different stem, or hat looking cap) ?



Maybe. There is a lot leading to a certain fenotype. Not per se fully attritrutable to genetics. But you might be lucky. At least you have a genetic that in a certain circumstance leads to what you're trying to clone. Try it out!

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: cybork] * 4
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I have tried unpasteurised compost and it did not end well.

It's not hard to pasteurise some compost, I put the compost in a ziploc leaving a crack and put it into the IP on top of the trivet, and leave it on the keep warm setting overnight.

The keep warm setting on a IP or Rice cooker holds it within pasturisation range but be aware you need the compost to come up to temperature.

You don't have to do that, you could load the compost directly into the IP but I prefer steam pasturisation because the compost comes out with the same moisture content as I put it in and the ziploc helps reduce smell.

Edited by Dkeppel (02/22/25 01:29 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Camera93]
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Q: I finally started to grow some more fun/exotics. I grew some APE's (nutcrackers to be more specific) and they are strooooooooong. Is it normal for them to potentially be 5-6x as strong as GT? My first few grows were GT, and at one point in testing them I did a .75g test. Felt good in the body, a slight high I suppose, no visuals... When traveling the other day I went to microdose the APE's and took .14g... and it felt the exact same as the .75g GT.

Does this scale? As in if I take 1g of this APE will it be similar to 5-6g of GT?

Edited by Romes (02/22/25 01:40 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Dkeppel]
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Dkeppel said:
I have tried unpasteurised compost and it did not end well.

It's not hard to pasteurise some compost, I put the compost in a ziploc leaving a crack and put it into the IP on top of the trivet, and leave it on the keep warm setting overnight.

The keep warm setting on a IP or Rice cooker holds it within pasturisation range but be aware you need the compost to come up to temperature.

You don't have to do that, you could load the compost directly into the IP but I prefer steam pasturisation because the compost comes out with the same moisture content as I put it in and the ziploc helps reduce smell.



Thanks.

I know / think the consensus is to use pasteurized for substrate, not sterilized, but I wonder whether anyone uses sterilized compost + grain in jar for pan cyan spawn jar? And if so in what ratio?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: cybork] * 1
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These might interest you:

tree frogs AIO jars ©

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Dkeppel] * 1
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Dkeppel said:
These might interest you:

tree frogs AIO jars ©



Stupid me. I read that, and actually gave me the seed to think about using coircompost. Only to just now read it also talks about compost. Poof. Brain is broken I think. Thanks!

Edited by cybork (02/22/25 09:35 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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But that's my best jar ever😢.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mike-ologist] * 1
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mike-ologist said:
Sawdust spawn Question:
This is gonna be my first real try at using hwfp for spawn, and most of what I'm reading says to use grain spawn to inoculate the sawdust spawn.

My question is: is it feasible to go from agar straight to sawdust?



I've never tried it, but I can't imagine it would be worthwhile over making a quart or even a pint jar of grain spawn and using that to inoculate a few bags (probably up to 5 or even 10 per quart). Sawdust bags are annoying to shake, and it would probably take a few shakes if starting with a few agar wedges. If you shake once (at inoculation) with some grain spawn, it colonizes quickly throughout the bag.

mike-ologist said:
Wood loving species can better acclimate to the final substrate by being introduced to sawdust spawn prior to spawning it into supplemented sawdust sub.

It also dramatically increases surface area and Number of inoculated particles. I may just do some experiments this weekend!



I'd never heard the acclimation claim. I always thought the reason for sawdust spawn was 10-fold expansion without using more (comparatively expensive) grain (e.g. grain bag -> 10 sawdust bags -> 100 production (supplemented) blocks). I'm sure the tiny sawdust pieces are great as spawn.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Phaethon] * 1
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Another reason to use sawdust spawn, is critters will go after the grain spawn if you're making beds outside.

So the fewer grains you use, or the better digested they are, the less squirrels you will have digging in your beds

I'm planning to do a wine cap bed this spring, my plan is to take one jar of grains and inoculate four bags of sawdust with it. And then use those four bags of sawdust to inoculate as much mulch as I feel I need to make the bed.


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