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Re: All-In-One Jars for Panaeolus Sp. (and other exotics) [Re: PhenoDreamers] * 5
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Great write-up tree frog :snowman:

I was inspired by tree frog's AIO jar grows in the pan thread last year, and decided to try it out for myself.

Here is my grow log with notes and pics. It is another example of how you can do this.

The AIO method is very accessible and straightforward. I got success on my first try. My grow log is just one of many examples on here. You can do it too!

:heart: u tree frog


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Re: All-In-One Jars for Panaeolus Sp. (and other exotics) [Re: Dala]
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Dala said:
Great write-up tree frog :snowman:

I was inspired by tree frog's AIO jar grows in the pan thread last year, and decided to try it out for myself.

Here is my grow log with notes and pics. It is another example of how you can do this.

The AIO method is very accessible and straightforward. I got success on my first try. My grow log is just one of many examples on here. You can do it too!

:heart: u tree frog


Ahh thanks dala :heart:

I'm going to add your grow log to the OP if you don't mind.  I'll do the same with my first one even though many of the pictures are missing.


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Re: All-In-One Jars for Panaeolus Sp. (and other exotics) [Re: tree frog]
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Sweet one tree frog.
:greatjob:

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Re: All-In-One Jars for Panaeolus Sp. (and other exotics) [Re: tree frog]
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Feel free to link it 😊


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Re: All-In-One Jars for Panaeolus Sp. (and other exotics) [Re: Dala] * 1
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Dala said:
Great write-up tree frog :snowman:

I was inspired by tree frog's AIO jar grows in the pan thread last year, and decided to try it out for myself.

Here is my grow log with notes and pics. It is another example of how you can do this.




Nice results! That's a fantastic looking third flush :sokawaii:

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The AIO method is very accessible and straightforward. I got success on my first try. My grow log is just one of many examples on here. You can do it too!

:heart: u tree frog


I did take the old adage of starting a couple of six. Possibly 7, depending on whether my LAGM T1's show signs of life projects while I wait seriously :lol: Pans do look mighty tempting to add to the list, however... but I think I'll exercise a bit of self control. At least for a month or two :wink:


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Re: All-In-One Jars for Panaeolus Sp. (and other exotics) [Re: GreeneMyco] * 6
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Here's a couple of pictures of jars very close to done.

A spot still the initial color.  This will probably be done tomorrow.



I'll give this one two days to be sure. But it's also very close.



The reason for these pictures is because it's a bit harder to tell if a jar is finished.  You can see the second jar still is quite wispy.  Which is fine, as long as all of the substrate has lightened some to show that it's colonized.

If these spots are wet, they'll stay dark.  In which case I'll spawn them anyway in 24-48 hours as condensation can leave wet spots in the jars.


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Re: All-In-One Jars for Panaeolus Sp. (and other exotics) [Re: tree frog] * 1
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Sorry I didn't pop in earlier to say excellent work as always tree frog :heart:

I have some AIO jars colonising but they are a lot more bodgie than your recipe and I'll have to try your way out.

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Re: All-In-One Jars for Panaeolus Sp. (and other exotics) [Re: Dkeppel] * 5
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Spawning a few aio jars this morning.

Here's the first, ttbvi plus casing application.  There were some larger clumps I broke up to level the substrate.  But I tried not to disturb the colony to much (left all the smaller clumps together).











Edit:  And the second is Ps. Ingeli.  I'm running this one in a 10-cup tray with grass in the casing.







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Re: All-In-One Jars for Panaeolus Sp. (and other exotics) [Re: tree frog]
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Thanks for sharing this tree frog, I'm excited to try it for myself.

Can you say a little more about the lids of your jars?

From the photos it looks like you're using the original mason jar lids, with no additional filter patch etc, is that right?

And are you flipping the inner part of the mason jar lid upside down prior to pressure cooking? Or are you leaving the lids a little loose during pressure cooking?

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Re: All-In-One Jars for Panaeolus Sp. (and other exotics) [Re: gourmet_scout] * 2
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I have gray lids with a hole drilled in the top of them. You could use a regular metal lid if you like though.  I would flip it if you do.  And definitely drill a hole in the top of it and stuff it with polyfill, or use a SFD.

If anything they need more fresh air exchange than regular jars, because they are a half gallon.  Which isn't to say a standard size hole won't work, I just wouldn't try running them with an unmodified lid.


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Re: All-In-One Jars for Panaeolus Sp. (and other exotics) [Re: tree frog] * 1
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Alright just got my manure for this recipe. Now just waiting on the calcium carbonate 🥰


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Re: All-In-One Jars for Panaeolus Sp. (and other exotics) [Re: QuantumZ00] * 1
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Yeah, someone just messaged me about the calcium carbonate too. I use it but yall can skip it if you want.

It just makes them a little easier to shake, and gives some calcium supplementation and likely pH stability to the colony.


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Re: All-In-One Jars for Panaeolus Sp. (and other exotics) [Re: tree frog] * 2
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Damn, been seeing you talk about your AIOs for quite some time. Knew what you were talking about but now I know what you mean.
I was hoping you’d do this for a while now haha.
This is awesome.
Much appreciated!
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Re: All-In-One Jars for Panaeolus Sp. (and other exotics) [Re: Soloist] * 2
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I'm trying these this weekend! I even have some Calc Carb & Gypsum


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Re: All-In-One Jars for Panaeolus Sp. (and other exotics) [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon] * 4
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First round is done. I got 9 slightly under filled myco-quarts following the recipe + a 1/4 recipe. Will probably times everything by 1.5 next time to get 10 myco-quarts.

Not 100% sure if I got the field capacity right, but it's definitely not muddy.




Tip for anyone trying this:

Prep your coir so it's under field capacity. My manure was on the muddy side, and the dry coir saved the process. Since the recipe calls for adding water anyways, coir on the dry side is a blessing. It gives you wiggle room.

Gonna PC for 3 hours @ 18psi and then take the jars out hot and shake them. I'll edit this comment with the after pictures.


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Re: All-In-One Jars for Panaeolus Sp. (and other exotics) [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon] * 2
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Hey TF and other Panatics, would ya'll say these guys are ready:







The manure isn't white, nor is it grey or brown, but it all has definitely changed colour since the most recent shake. Best way I can describe it is whispy white. It probably won't show in the picture, but anything that isn't fluffy is that whispy white.

I'm thinking of sending them. I'm not looking for permission per say, but how would you guys describe a finished AIO jars? To me, they look similar to the jars shown in the OP.

This is a jar that I'm going to toss, you can see the white mycelium didn't re-fluffify. To me, that's akin to a grain jar not recovering.



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Re: All-In-One Jars for Panaeolus Sp. (and other exotics) [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon] * 2
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I've only done one run of aio jars so grain of salt, but fwiw it looks similar to mine when they were fully colonized. A lot of wispy myc across the poo/verm with denser pockets of myc around some of the grain.



Kinda crappy pics but it's something :shrug:

If you think it's worth it you could send the sus jar to a fahtloc or something. I sent one to a pretzel bucket with coir and ended up with a flush



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Re: All-In-One Jars for Panaeolus Sp. (and other exotics) [Re: Dala] * 1
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Thanks Dala.

How did your jars feel when you dumped them into a tray?

Mine almost felt dry. They broke up easily into small (2-3mm) chunks with a couple whacks on the jar, but almost seemed like partially dried dirt. Can either clump or crumble depending on how you handle it would be the best description I could give.

I was wearing gloves so I can't speak about their exact moisture content, but in my head I pictured it all a bit more moist.

When I'm mixing coir with gloves on I can still feel the moisture through the latex, this was different.

The chunks did compact into a level surface when I pressed them down into the tray, so there must be some amount of moisture there.

I only spawned three out of my nine jars, so it's just a bit of a test run. I need more racks or to clear out my calibration BRF pucks before I can do more.

Considering how it appeared dry, I moistened some jiffy mix to just above field capacity, spread it on the tray, and then misted the shit out of it. My line of thinking is that the excess moisture would trickle down into the pan sub and hydrate it a bit.

I guess only time will tell if it was the right call. If it goes bad, I still have another two trays I can try. Hopefully I'll get it dialed in.


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Re: All-In-One Jars for Panaeolus Sp. (and other exotics) [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon] * 3
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I don't remember how it felt when I spawned, but it definitely didn't feel wet.  I mixed it with some prepped coir and added a thin top layer that I misted. You'll find the right balance.


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Re: All-In-One Jars for Panaeolus Sp. (and other exotics) [Re: Dala] * 1
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Yeah I don't know why they feel so dry when they come out of the jar.

Sometimes I just spray the substrate as I'm spawning it. And sometimes I just case it immediately and spray the casing well.


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