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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BonsaidMycelium] * 2
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BonsaidMycelium said:
ironically, I think I got contam in my great value ready rice bags because of the increased humidity, so maybe Ill keep the grain spawn out of it.


I think you got contam because you used a great value ready rice bag as grain spawn

:howdy:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BonsaidMycelium] * 1
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BonsaidMycelium said:
Mr Piggy said:
BonsaidMycelium said:
Sorry, I should have been more clear. This isn't for a flow hood, but for the inline fan for FAE in a Martha tent. I don't think Laminar Flow is an issues in this case.


Oh, that makes sense.  Why filter?  You’ve already spawned by the time it’s in the tent.

Serious question, I don’t martha.



Thats a fair point and question.

I keep all of my grows in the martha. Grain jars, Spawn to bulk, and fruiting. Figured it would be safest to have a filter.

ironically, I think I got contam in my great value ready rice bags because of the increased humidity, so maybe Ill keep the grain spawn out of it.


Take everything out of the tent except what you have spawned to fruit.  You especially do not want your grain in there as raw grain being in contact with things like coir can contaminate your grow.  Also, rice is one of the worst grains you can use, I would advise you switch to something like wild bird seed, rye, oats, wheat, milo, or the such.

Honestly I think you might want to pump the brakes a bit and talk about your whole setup.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tri]
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Tri said:
BonsaidMycelium said:
ironically, I think I got contam in my great value ready rice bags because of the increased humidity, so maybe Ill keep the grain spawn out of it.


I think you got contam because you used a great value ready rice bag as grain spawn

:howdy:


A) That is fair

B) The grain actually looked really really good, until i opened the bags. The top few loose grains of rice were green. Sucks. But you are right.

Tried something, didnt work.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tri]
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Tri said:
BonsaidMycelium said:
ironically, I think I got contam in my great value ready rice bags because of the increased humidity, so maybe Ill keep the grain spawn out of it.


I think you got contam because you used a great value ready rice bag as grain spawn

:howdy:


Jep. It should be free of contamination after PC cycle.

If I remember you shot spores into the bag? Then that's a valid root cause.

But possibly I'm now mixing (he he he) multiple stories regarding AIOs and spawn bags. It are too many. :smile:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy] * 1
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Mr Piggy said:
BonsaidMycelium said:
Mr Piggy said:
BonsaidMycelium said:
Sorry, I should have been more clear. This isn't for a flow hood, but for the inline fan for FAE in a Martha tent. I don't think Laminar Flow is an issues in this case.


Oh, that makes sense.  Why filter?  You’ve already spawned by the time it’s in the tent.

Serious question, I don’t martha.



Thats a fair point and question.

I keep all of my grows in the martha. Grain jars, Spawn to bulk, and fruiting. Figured it would be safest to have a filter.

ironically, I think I got contam in my great value ready rice bags because of the increased humidity, so maybe Ill keep the grain spawn out of it.


Take everything out of the tent except what you have spawned to fruit.  You especially do not want your grain in there as raw grain being in contact with things like coir can contaminate your grow.  Also, rice is one of the worst grains you can use, I would advise you switch to something like wild bird seed, rye, oats, wheat, milo, or the such.

Honestly I think you might want to pump the brakes a bit and talk about your whole setup.


Just learning as I go along brother. None of the "unclebens" tek worked out, so I quickly moved on to getting a pressure cooker and doing brown rice grain spawn. Will be trying out millet and milo next.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: SkanskKorv] * 1
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SkanskKorv said:
Hey again y'all... So apparently my latest shrooms want to become astronauts when they grow up but can someone explain why and should I worry over their little space helmets? I really hope I don't need to worry because they're cute as shit and much thicker than the previous batch





Looks like they may be getting sprayed a bit much.  FYI perlite shotgun fruiting chambers are old tek that doesn't work that great.  I'm guessing you're also fanning and misting them.

Take a look at this updated PF TEK page including a new type of fruiting chamber called a water tub.  Literally just an unmodified tub with some water in it, and people are having much better results than a shotgun fruiting chamber with perlite in it.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=2&Number=24179086&PHPSESSID=&fpart=1#24179086


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: cybork]
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cybork said:
Tri said:
BonsaidMycelium said:
ironically, I think I got contam in my great value ready rice bags because of the increased humidity, so maybe Ill keep the grain spawn out of it.


I think you got contam because you used a great value ready rice bag as grain spawn

:howdy:


Jep. It should be free of contamination after PC cycle.

If I remember you shot spores into the bag? Then that's a valid root cause.

But possibly I'm now mixing (he he he) multiple stories regarding AIOs and spawn bags. It are too many. :smile:


Nah not spores. Used LC. Shot about 1.5-2cc into each bag.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BonsaidMycelium]
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BonsaidMycelium said:
Just learning as I go along brother. None of the "unclebens" tek worked out, so I quickly moved on to getting a pressure cooker and doing brown rice grain spawn. Will be trying out millet and milo next.


If you haven't read it yet, check out the hitchhiker's guide to the shroomery:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28501530/fpart/1/vc/1

That can help you narrow down your path.

Yeah, uncle bens is trash.  Glad you're still at it and trying.  If you're building a martha for exotics and pans that's awesome, but marthas are completely unneeded for cubensis cultivation.  I would instead fruit cubes in shoeboxes, monotubs, or in ziplocks.  I'm partial to zips myself, but to love a full tub.


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BonsaidMycelium] * 1
    #29114561 -

BonsaidMycelium said:
cybork said:
Tri said:
BonsaidMycelium said:
ironically, I think I got contam in my great value ready rice bags because of the increased humidity, so maybe Ill keep the grain spawn out of it.


I think you got contam because you used a great value ready rice bag as grain spawn

:howdy:


Jep. It should be free of contamination after PC cycle.

If I remember you shot spores into the bag? Then that's a valid root cause.

But possibly I'm now mixing (he he he) multiple stories regarding AIOs and spawn bags. It are too many. :smile:


Nah not spores. Used LC. Shot about 1.5-2cc into each bag.


LC needs to be tested on agar first.  The central skill to all of this is agar work, and if you're learning that's where your focus should be.  Here's a link to a beginner's agar:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19208976#19208976


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy]
    #29114563 -

Mr Piggy said:
BonsaidMycelium said:
Just learning as I go along brother. None of the "unclebens" tek worked out, so I quickly moved on to getting a pressure cooker and doing brown rice grain spawn. Will be trying out millet and milo next.


If you haven't read it yet, check out the hitchhiker's guide to the shroomery:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28501530/fpart/1/vc/1

That can help you narrow down your path.

Yeah, uncle bens is trash.  Glad you're still at it and trying.  If you're building a martha for exotics and pans that's awesome, but marthas are completely unneeded for cubensis cultivation.  I would instead fruit cubes in shoeboxes, monotubs, or in ziplocks.  I'm partial to zips myself, but to love a full tub.



Thanks man! Reason I went the martha route is it was difficult to keep good temps and humidty in the grow area, especially during the winter. I had to setup heat as well as a humidifier in a closet. This was going to turn into a problem so I got the martha. Been able to keep it stable beteen 72-75 and humidity at 90.

I did make the mistake of keeping spawning grain bags in there, thats on me. Lesson learned.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Mr Piggy said:
LC needs to be tested on agar first.  The central skill to all of this is agar work, and if you're learning that's where your focus should be.  Here's a link to a beginner's agar:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19208976#19208976


Thanks again!

I am getting into agar work now actually. I have some black oysters growing that I will practice the agar work with.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BonsaidMycelium] * 1
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BonsaidMycelium said:
Mr Piggy said:
BonsaidMycelium said:
Just learning as I go along brother. None of the "unclebens" tek worked out, so I quickly moved on to getting a pressure cooker and doing brown rice grain spawn. Will be trying out millet and milo next.


If you haven't read it yet, check out the hitchhiker's guide to the shroomery:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28501530/fpart/1/vc/1

That can help you narrow down your path.

Yeah, uncle bens is trash.  Glad you're still at it and trying.  If you're building a martha for exotics and pans that's awesome, but marthas are completely unneeded for cubensis cultivation.  I would instead fruit cubes in shoeboxes, monotubs, or in ziplocks.  I'm partial to zips myself, but to love a full tub.



Thanks man! Reason I went the martha route is it was difficult to keep good temps and humidty in the grow area, especially during the winter. I had to setup heat as well as a humidifier in a closet. This was going to turn into a problem so I got the martha. Been able to keep it stable beteen 72-75 and humidity at 90.

I did make the mistake of keeping spawning grain bags in there, thats on me. Lesson learned.


They fruit in a wider range of conditions that you would think.  A lot of us running tubs and the such in here are fruiting in the mid 60s.  It just takes a little longer.  Tubs are by nature set it and forget it.  When made properly they regulate their own airflow and humidity, same with ziplocks and shoeboxes.

If you're not growing exotics and pans, a martha is a lot of heartache and work for something easily done in a five dollar tub.


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Mr Piggy said:
Also, rice is one of the worst grains you can use, I would advise you switch to something like wild bird seed, rye, oats, wheat, milo, or the such.



Can you please expand on this, I know its starchy and folks have trouble with that. But it's also a key ingredient in BRF / PF tek which works really well (minus not having enough water for good yields since there is no sub).

Just trying to learn :takingnotes:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sage_bd] * 1
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you want grains still in their hulls. rice is exposed and gets all starchy and sticky

still works just not that great when applied to grain spawn. u cant really compare pf tek to bulk growing


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: catnip40]
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Sure I'm not trying to compare pf tek to bulk grows. It just seems like a good nutrient source if it's one of the most prolific teks out there / how "everyone" gets started.

So do the hulls provide better nutrition or structure (for holding more water)? or do hulls just prevent excess starch/clumping?

Rice is also used to pull moisture out of phones so it seems like a good candidate for that reason too (high water retention).

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sage_bd]
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BRF is not a grain spawn and has completely different applications, that's comparing oranges to walruses.

I'm speaking specifically about grain spawn, not any other tek like pf or ingredients for agar.

Catnip nailed it, no need to elaborate on that.


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy] * 1
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again, just trying to learn...

sounds like the issue with brown rice is the starchiness since they lack hulls but that is the only reason they're not ideal. Since catnip nailed it and that's all he said?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sage_bd]
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due to that nature it's very hard to work with and I find it is more prone to contamination. 

Why work with a mess of starchy goo when you can have easy to work grain spawn that's not as prone to contamination?

If it worked well, it would be a regularly used grain on this web site that is over 26 years old.


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy] * 1
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Mr Piggy said:
due to that nature it's very hard to work with and I find it is more prone to contamination. 

Why work with a mess of starchy goo when you can have easy to work grain spawn that's not as prone to contamination?

If it worked well, it would be a regularly used grain on this web site that is over 26 years old.


Added to that:

Difficult to get the right moisture. It is less forgiving. Can break easily.

Also it stacks pretty tight. Which makes air travel less good. Anaerobic then het a better chance, which you don't want.

That said, if you have a rice cooker to get the perfect wetted grain, and pc that... But I'd go for something more forgiving and much easier. But I'm also sure it is easier for some than most.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy] * 1
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Thanks for taking the time to answer the question. I appreciate it :heart:

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