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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 1
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Hello all!

I'm brand new to trying my hand growing and bought an inflatable monotub kit online as I wanted to see if I had any proficiency before outlaying a large chunk of dough.  I've read that this is largely frowned upon on this site so please keep your boos to a minimum. :wink:

I believe I've had success so far and I'm at the fruiting stage but I'm a bit concerned that I've got the "cotton ball" type contamination (sorry, I've forgotten the name) growing that I saw demonstrated in a video on youtube. Below are a few pictures and I'd appreciate any feedback as to if things are looking as they should at this stage. Thanks for the time and taking a look!



Edited by LoneliestEnuretic (01/06/25 08:11 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LoneliestEnuretic] * 2
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I don't see anything that I would be worried about at this stage. Try not to love it to death and read up on the Hitchhiker's guide while you wait for some fruits or clear indication of a problem.

Welcome aboard!


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Stoned Gummys | BRF Pucks | Primo Reusable Plates | Easy LI 4 Preserv & Propo
"Psychedelics are powerful substances. Nothing that powerful is completely safe... and nothing completely safe is that powerful!" - Abigail Calder at ALPS 2023
Don't Panic

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ReverendMyc]
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Awesome! Thanks for answering so quickly! I'll check out the Hitchhiker's Guide as my next piece of reading.

Here's a quick question if you happen to know and don't mind answering... What should I look for as a difference between regular healthy mycelium and the "cotton ball" contamination? Is there an easy way to tell the difference?

Thanks again!

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LoneliestEnuretic] * 1
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LoneliestEnuretic said:
Hello all!

I'm brand new to trying my hand growing and bought an inflatable monotub kit online as I wanted to see if I had any proficiency before outlaying a large chunk of dough.  I've read that this is largely frowned upon on this site so please keep your boos to a minimum. :wink:

I believe I've had success so far and I'm at the fruiting stage but I'm a bit concerned that I've got the "cotton ball" type contamination (sorry, I've forgotten the name) growing that I saw demonstrated in a video on youtube. Below are a few pictures and I'd appreciate any feedback as to if things are looking as they should at this stage. Thanks for the time and taking a look!







Booooo!

Jk. Welcome to the coolest place in town dude. Im just saying hi and +1 to ReverendMyc's recommendation to read the HitchHikers Guide. Stick with it and don't take failure as an option - this is a great hobby.


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Hitchhikers Guide to The Shroomery

Shine on forever, shine on benevolent son
Shine down upon the severed
Shine until the two become one

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LoneliestEnuretic] * 4
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I am not familiar with cotton ball contamination. You may be referring to cobweb contam. That is a common type of mold that looks somewhat similar to mushroom mycelium but is much faster. On agar plates is it less organized than mushroom mycelium, however, when I have seen it on substrate, it tends to move very fast and show some radial thread-like shoots.

Honestly the best way to learn to identify the difference between healthy mushroom mycelium and some molds is just to grow it out. Some molds will quickly grow spores that are colorful and easy to identify. Some stay white but grow too quickly and of course do not produce mushrooms. Not so much that you will know it when you see it, but that you will learn what healthy mush myc looks like after a few good grows. The other stuff is fascinating to watch too. It just doesn't end with what you hoped for.

The contamination threads are full of examples of contams. I am never one to get too hung up on what kind of contam I have. If it isn't clean mushroom mycelium that is all I need to know. You can become very good at sterile practices without ever learning the names of the various types of contams.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman] * 1
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Thanks for the welcome!

My g/f and I have been having a blast so far watching everything grow and have been lucky so far, I think. We haven't had any major hiccups on the way. I def. will be reading the HH guide and I'm pretty sure we're gonna start amassing all the supplies needed for a more "traditional" approach soon. The only sort of spendy piece of equipment seems to be a pressure cooker so that's next on the list, and then acquiring and constructing a still air box.

We're excited to try our hands at the agar methods etc. Here's to hoping we're successful!

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LoneliestEnuretic] * 1
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Dang I wish I could get my gf to be excited about agar 😅 lol.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: bluespirit13] * 5
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LOL, "Agar makes it more fun!" says the girlfriend.

We're gender opposites on most things traditionally attributed to the opposite. I'm the one who does most of the cooking and cleaning whereas, much like a mushroom sporulating, she tends to drop her items hither and thither throughout the house when she arrives home. She's way more mechanically inclined than I ever could hope to be though. So, between the two of us we just about have a fully complete and functioning human brain.

She's great though! I'm a lucky boy.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: blorbblorb]
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blorbblorb said:



Any ideas on how to fix my setup would be appreciated!



First and foremost see The Hitchhiker's Guide.

Get rid of anything inside your tub that you don't need in there, ie that humidifier thing and the light, next time around use a Water Tub.

Just do some general reading around on the site and you can definitely up your game a lot.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Axman]
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If you are trying to keep a certain genetic trait going, say, potency, or taste, etc. how do you both consume the speciman as well as get a sample of it? In other words, if you were going for size, you could simply clone the largest speciman, etc. But if you are wanting something that comes from consuming the speciman, you obviously can't go back and clone it after consumption, yet you woulnd't know how it tastes or how potent it is until consuming it, so how do you know which ones to clone when they haven't been consumed, yet? Since in theory, each mushroom grown (unless already from a clone) is slightly genetically different, how do you select for something like taste?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Axman]
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I recently dunked my PF cakes in my insulated cooler I normally bucket tek my coir in.


I just realized I did this. If i make up slme coir in it now Is it going to cause me issues? 


Is it the same rule as keeping your coir bucket separate from your grain bucket? Did I mess up here? Can I just wash it out and be okay?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie] * 4
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callmehippie said:
I recently dunked my PF cakes in my insulated cooler I normally bucket tek my coir in.


I just realized I did this. If i make up slme coir in it now Is it going to cause me issues? 


Is it the same rule as keeping your coir bucket separate from your grain bucket? Did I mess up here? Can I just wash it out and be okay?



You 100% need to deep deep clean that cooler.


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The 7 Edicts of Mushroom Cultivation as Decreed by Smellyhobbit

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Feltigami]
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Feltigami said:
If you are trying to keep a certain genetic trait going, say, potency, or taste, etc. how do you both consume the speciman as well as get a sample of it? In other words, if you were going for size, you could simply clone the largest speciman, etc. But if you are wanting something that comes from consuming the speciman, you obviously can't go back and clone it after consumption, yet you woulnd't know how it tastes or how potent it is until consuming it, so how do you know which ones to clone when they haven't been consumed, yet? Since in theory, each mushroom grown (unless already from a clone) is slightly genetically different, how do you select for something like taste?



Lots of clones and good record keeping.

Take clones of several likely candidates labeling each. After cloning, prepare the remains for consumption keeping track of which fruit remains go with which clone. Consume remains and decide which clones are worth pursuing further. Toss the rest.

Easy if you are going for taste of gourmets. Much more time consuming if you are testing for potency and need to wait on tolerance to reset between dosing. Either need a lot of willing friends, a lot of time, or to use some lab testing such as QTests.


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"Psychedelics are powerful substances. Nothing that powerful is completely safe... and nothing completely safe is that powerful!" - Abigail Calder at ALPS 2023
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ReverendMyc]
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ReverendMyc said:
Feltigami said:
If you are trying to keep a certain genetic trait going, say, potency, or taste, etc. how do you both consume the speciman as well as get a sample of it? In other words, if you were going for size, you could simply clone the largest speciman, etc. But if you are wanting something that comes from consuming the speciman, you obviously can't go back and clone it after consumption, yet you woulnd't know how it tastes or how potent it is until consuming it, so how do you know which ones to clone when they haven't been consumed, yet? Since in theory, each mushroom grown (unless already from a clone) is slightly genetically different, how do you select for something like taste?



Lots of clones and good record keeping.

Take clones of several likely candidates labeling each. After cloning, prepare the remains for consumption keeping track of which fruit remains go with which clone. Consume remains and decide which clones are worth pursuing further. Toss the rest.

Easy if you are going for taste of gourmets. Much more time consuming if you are testing for potency and need to wait on tolerance to reset between dosing. Either need a lot of willing friends, a lot of time, or to use some lab testing such as QTests.




How accurate are the QTests tho? 



I've been curious about how accurate those are because I have a ton of untested product that's taken me forever to get through between me and the two testers that I have.

I've noticed when I've seen videos of people using those.  the shade of the color tends to change depending on how close you hold the bottle to the paper and what the lighting situation is.

So I'm just wondering if anybody knows if they're actually accurate or not? It sure would save me a lot of time. If they are close enough.


Also can you only test one sample per bottle? Cuz from the sight I found them on their $19.99. that's pretty expensive if it can't test multiple samples. But i have no clue.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie] * 3
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The Q-tests are probably as accurate as the scales one uses to weigh the sample amount.

I've used them for clone selection, ie. I grew out 3 clones, Tested homogenized samples, selected the darkest one.

Pretty straightforward. It's pretty hard though to get exact numbers from the color.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tweeq] * 3
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Tweeq said:
The Q-tests are probably as accurate as the scales one uses to weigh the sample amount.

I've used them for clone selection, ie. I grew out 3 clones, Tested homogenized samples, selected the darkest one.

Pretty straightforward. It's pretty hard though to get exact numbers from the color.



Unless you get the Colormeter.
https://www.miraculix-lab.de/en/psilocybin-qtest#Qtest-photometer


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--GROWING SHROOMS, FROM SPORES TO TRIPS
--x7x+ variety history.

Edited by nektar61 (01/07/25 07:28 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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That's a great way to utilize those tests. Not being hung up on the numbers..

Also the lighting in which it is read, being second to the (mg) scale accuracy.


Unless you buy the fancy Colormeter thing,

Edited by LewDoja (01/07/25 07:28 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja]
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LewDoja said:
That's a great way to utilize those tests. Not being hung up on the numbers..

Also the lighting in which it is read, being second to the (mg) scale accuracy.


Unless you buy the fancy Colormeter thing,



Yes.
Company said if you have to use artificial light best is 6500 k LED (which is probably a "video light" not a "grow light", grow lights sometimes have other colors added in)


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--How to grow POPPIES.
--GROWING SHROOMS, FROM SPORES TO TRIPS
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nektar61]
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Hi folks, my P. NATALENSIS are know full colonized what i have to do know? I read somewhere out the cake in a fridge for 24h that kicks up the fruiting process is that true?

Open the Ziplock ore let it rest there holes are i poke with a needle after i span to Bulk.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Fiet] * 4
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Whats going on?


Why do I have shades of white to brown?

I cannot remember if it came from a print or a swab, but it did not come from a syringe.

It is X7X+



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