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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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Smellyhobbit said:
Ziplock bags are not good enough, no.

Next best thing is to powder your fruits and put that powder in jars. You can fit much much more that way. Then next after that is looking at turning it into product like tea, gunmies, or chocolate.

Ziplocks and vac bags fail. Ziplocks slowly let moisture in from the jump, while vac bags might stay good for months and months only to fail at some unknowable time and cause catastrophic loss. Short term, vac is fine. Long term, it is not reliable across the board like glass jars.


Did I see someone recommend 5 gal buckets with air tight lids? Maybe for paint or something? It was a while ago, and Idk if there was more detail to that or if that was the beginning and end of it. Powder definitely seems easier - it just came to mind and I couldn't remember what the deal was with the buckets...


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman]
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When is an agar plate too old to be used to inoculate grains?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AspectOfTheCreator]
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AspectOfTheCreator said:
When is an agar plate too old to be used to inoculate grains?


When it’s dried up and pulling away from the edges.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Wall.E] * 1
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I have plates almost a year old that arent like that. Just transferred rice sized pieces of 10 month old ps. Cyanescens and azurescens plates and they grew back out just fine.

Its just the thought of putting some 3 month old plates to grain that has me weary.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AspectOfTheCreator]
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If you know its clean then you can send old or dried out plates to grain.. it's kinda hard to tell if there is any contam and shit with overgrown and shriveled up plates though

dried plates will definitely revive most if not 100% of the time, they are just dormant and hard to tell whats going on at that point. cant say how long they last dried though, the oldest dry plate I ever revived was like a year old potato chip

I tend to avoid sending anything overgrown to grain whether its old or freshly overgrown lol


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: grzyp]
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grzyp said:
keeno said:
is there a link to the latest PF-tek?
just wonderinf if people still coat the cakes in vermiculite or is coir the bets option these days?
and the SGFC is replaced by a water tub?
cheers!


Hi!

Updated PF Tek Guide

Yes, still using vermiculite but coir is also good, and Yes - SGFC is replaced by water tub.

Water Tub Tek for fruiting BRF cakes



legend, cheers mate!:highfive:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman] * 1
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Jrey16 said:
Ok thanks. I was thinking about making chocolates too.

What about air tight plastic containers?


At that point just use jars, right?

ThurmanMurman said:
Smellyhobbit said:
Ziplock bags are not good enough, no.

Next best thing is to powder your fruits and put that powder in jars. You can fit much much more that way. Then next after that is looking at turning it into product like tea, gunmies, or chocolate.

Ziplocks and vac bags fail. Ziplocks slowly let moisture in from the jump, while vac bags might stay good for months and months only to fail at some unknowable time and cause catastrophic loss. Short term, vac is fine. Long term, it is not reliable across the board like glass jars.


Did I see someone recommend 5 gal buckets with air tight lids? Maybe for paint or something? It was a while ago, and Idk if there was more detail to that or if that was the beginning and end of it. Powder definitely seems easier - it just came to mind and I couldn't remember what the deal was with the buckets...


You did but I don’t remember who said it. 3am? But yeah food safe buckets. I’ve never tried this so have absolutely no way to confirm or deny the efficacy.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 3
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I use 5 gallon buckets with damprid in the bottom and a rack that holds ziplocks above it


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: catnip40]
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Any word on using PF cakes as soon as they've cooled to room temperature? Will it be a problems?

I did let the pressure cooker depressurize naturally

Edited by mishro (10/28/24 06:07 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mishro]
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mishro said:
Any word on using PF cakes as soon as they've cooled to room temperature? Will it be a problems?

I did let the pressure cooker depressurize naturally


I use them as soon as they’re cool. What else are you waiting for?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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I was just making some pasty plates and cracked a couple lids when drilling. They’re taped over now and the crack isn’t exposed at all.

Will this cause problems for my plates?  First time cracking a lid.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MycoKyle] * 2
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Tapped with MP? Should be fine. maybe double layer it.

Next Time use a hot poker, melt that bitch instead- same with modified tubs. Won't  crack them and is a hell of a lot faster than drilling.


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Edited by LewDoja (10/28/24 07:29 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: leumas.dam] * 3
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leumas.dam said:
Hey everyone,

I’m planning to make a magic mushroom tincture using ethanol and have about 100g of dried mushrooms.


Sam


Dear Sam,

  The reason you cannot find information on ethanol extracts is all the active compounds in mushrooms are extremely water soluble.  We use water.

-Pig


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy]
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I heard you could do it with Everclear.
Would this be the best option?
If you were to be trying to make a psilocin crystal.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 2
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You boys figure out how to make a shelf stable shroom tincture that isn’t a waste of fruits and alcohol let me know.

You figure out psilocybin crystals and you’ll win some sort of prize. I don’t think it’s really plausible or doable when god gave us the perfect storage medium - dried flesh


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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That's for the laboratories to invent once mushrooms are legal everywhere.

"Buy your crystal mushroom tincture at the shroom dispensary today!"


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: QuantumZ00]
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psilo is renally excreted... just saying


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: leumas.dam] * 6
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A 50:50 or 70:30 ethanol-to-water mix, acidified to a pH of 3.5–5, is usually optimal for extracting both psilocybin and psilocin effectively in one step.
As water is better for extracting psilocybin, ethanol is better for psilocin.
Lower ph (citric acid / ascorbic acid) helps to stabilize and protect against degradation.

Multiple "pulls" with fresh liquid and filtration/squeezing of solids. Combine filtered solutions and reduce volume.

For short term storage, it's fine to use a double boiler or fan to reduce volume. Additional ethanol may be added after volume reduction to aid in protection. Solutions should be acidified.
dephosphorylation of psilocybin hydrolysis to psilocin by heating of acidic solution,  will increase bioactivity



Long term Psilocybin is hygroscopic

anhydrous ethanol would be good but is hard to come by - molecular sieve may be employed.

it's best to dry completely the use of a vacuum distillation or rotoVap or freeze drying, for maintaining a low temperature evaporation. as to prevent/minimize dephosphorylation (psilocin is unstable)

Also flushing the atmosphere of a dark, air tight container with an inert gas Nitrogen or Argon. Protects against oxidation in both dry and solution forms.

Keeping dry products sealed at -20°C (combination with inert atmosphere). If there is water present freezing should be avoided
An anhydrous solutions may be stored at sub zero temps (not likely frozen)

Desiccants also aid in preserving alkaloids over long periods, but need changed and replenished periodically as should with inert gas.

bonus-Super fluid extraction
A SFE with CO2 might be worth experimenting with.

Edited by LewDoja (10/28/24 09:43 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja]
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Yeah it’s doubled up MP tape.  I have so many drills I didn’t wanna have to buy a new tool 😭


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MycoKyle] * 1
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These were fully colonized and actually sat that way for longer than usual. Gave them a confirmation shake on 10/23, and this what they looked like 10/27. Somethings fucky, but are these even worth spawning to a 1:1 ratio? They do look a little bit better today, but the recovery has been slow and they seem to be colonizing the kernels individually. Im only even considering it bc I dont have any other spawn ready to keep me on my tub rotation. Not a huge loss either way though.


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