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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: wavyedge]
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wavyedge said:
Smellyhobbit said:
Does anyone use straw as substrate? Any good threads I should read on how to prepare it? I’d like to give it a go :strokebeard:


I have used a mix substrate that includes straw pellets for all of my grows. I sterilize the subs in bags now though, but I actually still have tubs of this fruiting from May.

Key with the pellets is you need something to add structure, as they tend to form into mush when hydrated. Worth experimenting.


I take it those sterilized subs function as like all in one blocks? Inoculate and let em rip?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 1
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Yeah with worries about weak mycelium for papuana and neoxalapensis, even partly colonized grain (assuming it's clean) should be good to go if you knock the bags in front of your hood or in your SAB.

Treat going to bulk like g2g for technique. My failure rate went from 50-10% just by doing this.

I still suck at clean grain, but I usually catch that at the last shake.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: wavyedge]
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Sounds like a good use case for my half gallon jars :strokebeard:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 1
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Smellyhobbit said:
Does anyone use straw as substrate? Any good threads I should read on how to prepare it? I’d like to give it a go :strokebeard:


I recently asked this in the gourmet section. Chop into 1-3" pieces, put in a 5 gallon paint strainer bag, pasteurize at 160F for 1.5 hrs

Hang to drip and cool.

Edited by aShogunNamedMarcus (10/17/24 09:47 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: aShogunNamedMarcus] * 1
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I also use a some hydrated lime and dish soap.
Also 1.5 hrs might be a little short for straw especially if it's a little older/dirtier.
So after the initial heated time - leaving it in the lime 
bath for a couple days will help.

I like hamlosafs straw tek

Edited by LewDoja (10/17/24 10:14 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman] * 1
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ThurmanMurman said:
Smellyhobbit said:
Does anyone use straw as substrate? Any good threads I should read on how to prepare it? I’d like to give it a go :strokebeard:


I feel like I stepped into the twilight zone. Poo and straw was common when I was here in 2010, has since been abandoned, and now I see you're curious about using it, as if we're just going around and around. Lmao


Ultimately this is the alchemists equation. The community has been working on it for decades.
Turning shit into gold.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
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The other night I used my insulated 5 gallon drink cooler to dunk all of my PF cakes in.

I'm now wondering is it okay to use it  to make my bulk sub in like I had originally bought it for?

Do I have to worry about some sort of cross-contamination the way you would with using the same bucket to mix your grains as you do your sub?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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How does this SNAPE plate look? There are what looks like knots, but they are blue/green tinted


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: space.madness]
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Snape for me is always funky,  that might not be the cleanest plate??
But the color could just be bruising.
Fruits sure look cool but the myc on agar alway looks suspect (might just be me & mine)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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Just give it a soapy sponge bath and rinse - should be good .

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
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Outdoor woodlovers like straw right? Or am I confusing that with just cubes?  I think  i read it somewhere on here. and have been considering using it for my outdoor beds..

If I am correct about it being the wood lovers I would look in that official wood lovers thread. I think there's quite a lot of info about straw in there. And if I'm wrong about it being wood lovers then look for outdoor beds involving cubes. And I think you'll be able to find some info on straw. And either one or both of those threads.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja] * 1
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LewDoja said:
I also use a some hydrated lime and dish soap.
Also 1.5 hrs might be a little short for straw especially if it's a little older/dirtier.
So after the initial heated time - leaving it in the lime 
bath for a couple days will help.

I like hamlosafs straw tek



I was told that 1.5 hrs at 160F is the most you'd want to pasteurize straw.

2 hours is too long.

I used dish soap to hydrate my straw first, I forgot to mention that.

Edit: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28915654

Here's the thread we discussed it

Edited by aShogunNamedMarcus (10/17/24 10:58 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Huskies]
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Huskies said:
I just got some new plastic lids for jars. They don't have the brand name ones available anymore. The old ones did not have a silicone sealing ring.

The new ones do, and jesus are they hard to open up. Should I remove the silicone rings? One of them I straight up can't get open lol.

Also, what are your favorite lids? I might be going to LC so I might finally do proper SFDs and Injectable ports.


I never use the silicone rings that come with the lids I get. They're essentially water tight even without the silicone, and way easier to remove.

I have some modified lids (1/4-inch hole with US quarter-sized SFD I cut from a larger disc), but I have had enough filter (or silicone / glue) fails that I mostly prefer my lids unmodified.

An injection port is not going to give you better results than just opening the lid for a second (in an SAB or in sterile laminar air flow) and pouring in some LC.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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So do I need to wrap this into towel now? Or is it good because it's insulated?



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Phaethon]
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Phaethon said:
Huskies said:
I just got some new plastic lids for jars. They don't have the brand name ones available anymore. The old ones did not have a silicone sealing ring.

The new ones do, and jesus are they hard to open up. Should I remove the silicone rings? One of them I straight up can't get open lol.

Also, what are your favorite lids? I might be going to LC so I might finally do proper SFDs and Injectable ports.


I never use the silicone rings that come with the lids I get. They're essentially water tight even without the silicone, and way easier to remove.

I have some modified lids (1/4-inch hole with US quarter-sized SFD I cut from a larger disc), but I have had enough filter (or silicone / glue) fails that I mostly prefer my lids unmodified.

An injection port is not going to give you better results than just opening the lid for a second (in an SAB or in sterile laminar air flow) and pouring in some LC.




Normally with the metal ones when I can't get them open I take a butter knife and tap around the ring a few times in different places and it'll open right up. I have no clue if this would work with the plastic ones but it might


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Any reason for them growing so long and thin? Will they fatten up?



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Arctic_Fox]
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Arctic_Fox said:
Any reason for them growing so long and thin? Will they fatten up?




Pretty sure that's lack of FAE.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman]
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ThurmanMurman said:
Arctic_Fox said:
Any reason for them growing so long and thin? Will they fatten up?




Pretty sure that's lack of FAE.


    :whathesaid:


Definitely make sure you're providing enough Fae and light for at least 12 hours a day.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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Light just give them a direction to grow they don’t help with the actual process.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 4
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I think it's more than just direction, but also thickness and pigment. How might a mushroom understand there's room to spread the cap? More light might mean an open space where they can drop.

Papuana under intense light:






Same culture, same substrate, grown further down in half that intensity





I think there's probably more than one set of strategies for when and how big to make the caps, but stipes need to support the weight and provide structure. Light is an obvious choice, but not the only one available, and different phenotypes might choose differently. Just saying I don't think the party line is "enough light to read by" automatically just works in every case.

Try stuff.


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