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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: KryptKeeper]
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KryptKeeper said:
Asked about this yellow on my nats shoebox yesterday but didn't get an answer. Anyone know what this is or what I should do to handle it?

The tub has got more pins since yesterday but the yellowing is about the same.





I don’t like it, but I can’t identify what it is.  If it keeps pinning and no obvious molds show up, let it ride I guess?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: KryptKeeper] * 1
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Looks like matting from drying and misting. Any chance that you are fanning? If so, stop. Plenty of moisture around the outside of the yellow area, but dryer in the yellow area. So it looks like you just need to dial in the fae.

For this flush you are still looking pretty good though. I would just leave it alone and get mushrooms. Then after harvest try adjusting how it receives its air exchange. If you are fanning, don't. If you have holes, cover some of them with micropore tape or filter stickers. If it is unmodified, close the lid a little more. If you have a fan or lots of air movement in the room move the tub or make a similar adjustment.

But for now, just leave it alone. The best way to dial things in is by making small changes one at a time and then check the results. Doing too much at once almost always does more harm than good. You are so close that you don't want to over react and mess it up now.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: QuantumZ00] * 2
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QuantumZ00 said:
I really am always debating myself what counts as twenty percent colonized before I shake it. Like, do you guesstimate the space it took over, but what if it hasn't colonized too deeply into the jar so it just looks twenty percent but in actuality it's ten or fifteen percent!!

Hasn't mattered so far I'm just anal that way


Honestly, any amount of growth is okay for the first shake. I like to see at least some of the grains taken over by the myc. But as long as the myc has moved off of the agar and spread to 2 or 3 grains of distance from the wedge or started growing over several grains with a liquid inoculant, you can shake.

Sometimes I don't shake until it is well over 50% or more. It really depends on how much of a hurry I am in. If I don't have a lot of space for new tubs or trays, I shake later and less. If I am wanting to get more going, like right now, I shake early and then again at 50% -ish.

Never skip the final shake. That is my new rule for myself. Always shake one last time at 95% to 100% a couple of days before spawning. If it recovers, you know you are in good shape. If it has not bounced back in 2 days, you are going to have a bad time.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ReverendMyc] * 1
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ReverendMyc said:
Looks like matting from drying and misting. Any chance that you are fanning? If so, stop. Plenty of moisture around the outside of the yellow area, but dryer in the yellow area. So it looks like you just need to dial in the fae.

For this flush you are still looking pretty good though. I would just leave it alone and get mushrooms. Then after harvest try adjusting how it receives its air exchange. If you are fanning, don't. If you have holes, cover some of them with micropore tape or filter stickers. If it is unmodified, close the lid a little more. If you have a fan or lots of air movement in the room move the tub or make a similar adjustment.

But for now, just leave it alone. The best way to dial things in is by making small changes one at a time and then check the results. Doing too much at once almost always does more harm than good. You are so close that you don't want to over react and mess it up now.


I am not fanning and I am using bods unmodified shoebox tek with the holes in a grocery bag. The holes in the bag are the same size as the ones in my 7 B+shoeboxes and most of them are doing fine.
I was under the impression that nats required a lot more fae than cubensis.
I thought if anything I would have to make the holes larger not smaller. I will make them smaller anyways and see if that works. Thanks.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie] * 2
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callmehippie said:
That's nice. How much did you spend on it?


Honestly next to nothing dude just quit growing so got all his equipment for next to fuck all, all Americans  grow bags hood filters cultures ect


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ReverendMyc]
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ReverendMyc said:
QuantumZ00 said:
I really am always debating myself what counts as twenty percent colonized before I shake it. Like, do you guesstimate the space it took over, but what if it hasn't colonized too deeply into the jar so it just looks twenty percent but in actuality it's ten or fifteen percent!!

Hasn't mattered so far I'm just anal that way


Honestly, any amount of growth is okay for the first shake. I like to see at least some of the grains taken over by the myc. But as long as the myc has moved off of the agar and spread to 2 or 3 grains of distance from the wedge or started growing over several grains with a liquid inoculant, you can shake.

Sometimes I don't shake until it is well over 50% or more. It really depends on how much of a hurry I am in. If I don't have a lot of space for new tubs or trays, I shake later and less. If I am wanting to get more going, like right now, I shake early and then again at 50% -ish.

Never skip the final shake. That is my new rule for myself. Always shake one last time at 95% to 100% a couple of days before spawning. If it recovers, you know you are in good shape. If it has not bounced back in 2 days, you are going to have a bad time.


Very illuminating look into your thoughts process. I'm always doubting my technique, so I always get fearful the later I let a jar go that "looks" good and then shake, the more time would be wasted if it falls to contam. Because you know they say breaking the grains up temporarily weakens the organism until it reconsolidates.

So if I waited and shake at 50, and then shake again at 90 and it doesn't recover... I dunno. That would really annoy me. I know at 90 I'm so close to having to break it up again in order to spawn to bulk that it just seems like unnecessarily punishing the poor mycelium lol


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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:readmylipsfuckyou:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Big boy here is the biggest nat I've grown. Was considering cloning, but he's by himself and wasn't sure if growing out the clone may yield clustering still. I guess I dont fully understand how close to the donor the subsequent grow will be, or if I can still find other favorable traits down the line. That's not something I'm looking for answers on, as I'm sure I'll delve into the reading and whatnot, but I'm looking for an experienced opinion on whether or not cloning this guy would be worth my time to see where it leads. Ive got some decent clusters in another box that I was eyeballing as well, and was considering maybe cloning a cluster fruit may be better in the long run. Honestly, my pinsets haven't been great with the nats so far, but it's my first go with it and I'm churning out fruits, so I'm calling it a win!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman] * 1
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Why wouldn’t you clone the thicc boi if you got the space?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Wall.E]
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Wall.E said:
Why wouldn’t you clone the thicc boi if you got the space?


I've gotten the impression that clone candidates are typically large and part of a cluster - this fella has no friends.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman]
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So it seems like the pins that made it higher than the fuzzy feet are continuing to grow but the small ones engulfed in fuzz have stalled out. I’ve tried fanning and introducing more FAE but nothing. I’m now picking as they become ready in hopes that energy will be transferred to other mushrooms to help with growth. I will collect today and tomorrow and then dehydrate so not to be storing freshies in the fridge for too long. Any advice on how to deal with this or prevent it from happening next time would be greatly appreciated. Thanks 🙏


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Dad_Shroomer]
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I just got some new plastic lids for jars. They don't have the brand name ones available anymore. The old ones did not have a silicone sealing ring.

The new ones do, and jesus are they hard to open up. Should I remove the silicone rings? One of them I straight up can't get open lol.

Also, what are your favorite lids? I might be going to LC so I might finally do proper SFDs and Injectable ports.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Seriously_trippin]
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This bag is hillbilly pumpkin, I inoculated it on September 18th

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mycunkwn]
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Does anyone use straw as substrate? Any good threads I should read on how to prepare it? I’d like to give it a go :strokebeard:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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:awehigh:


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Smellyhobbit said:
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 2
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Smellyhobbit said:
Does anyone use straw as substrate? Any good threads I should read on how to prepare it? I’d like to give it a go :strokebeard:


Straw mostly used for oysters and not so much for actives, so you may have better luck on preparation in the gourmet section

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy] * 2
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Mr Piggy said:


:awehigh:


While paper will work as a substrate, I asked about straw. Close!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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Smellyhobbit said:
Does anyone use straw as substrate? Any good threads I should read on how to prepare it? I’d like to give it a go :strokebeard:


I feel like I stepped into the twilight zone. Poo and straw was common when I was here in 2010, has since been abandoned, and now I see you're curious about using it, as if we're just going around and around. Lmao


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman]
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Smellyhobbit said:
Does anyone use straw as substrate? Any good threads I should read on how to prepare it? I’d like to give it a go :strokebeard:


I have used a mix substrate that includes straw pellets for all of my grows. I sterilize the subs in bags now though, but I actually still have tubs of this fruiting from May.

Key with the pellets is you need something to add structure, as they tend to form into mush when hydrated. Worth experimenting.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman] * 5
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ThurmanMurman said:
Smellyhobbit said:
Does anyone use straw as substrate? Any good threads I should read on how to prepare it? I’d like to give it a go :strokebeard:


I feel like I stepped into the twilight zone. Poo and straw was common when I was here in 2010, has since been abandoned, and now I see you're curious about using it, as if we're just going around and around. Lmao


There may come a time sooner rather than later for one reason or another that coir stops being a viable option in your area. Shipping or availability. Or even just reliability. BUT you will be able to source straw.


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