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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Romes]
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You’re trying to control the humidity inside of a mono tub. The humidity in your room doesn’t really matter. It just means you may need to restrict a little bit more free air exchange.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Sarnath]
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How resilient is mycelium? If you've got super clean healthy spawn. Could you essentially break and shake it as many times as you want and it'll just keep recovering?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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GenesisCorrupted said:
That actually looks normal to me because he inoculated with LC. It inoculates all the way down where it flowed through the jar and it usually starts a ring at the bottom.

Crazy textures in that jar though.



Interesting. Good to know for my next run. Mine looked like it was growing tiny dope "roots" but it was just cool hyphae growth that started in about the middle of the jar. The LC did run down but not that much is why I asked. Adding alot of LC probably is why it went that far down though.

I'll be adding this to the don't worry list on my next run I'm starting tomorrow. Itll be Tidal wave. Because mine were B+ too and looked pretty dang different from that.

But my gut instinct was also that it's just healthy mycelium.

Love it when I learn more, less to worry about as I go forward. Thanks again Gen


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Seriously_trippin]
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Mine also had weird texturing.  That was probably it.



Now that I'm seeing it again it's the same thing just different texture which threw me off.

But I learned something


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Edited by Seriously_trippin (09/13/24 02:56 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie] * 1
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callmehippie said:
How resilient is mycelium? If you've got super clean healthy spawn. Could you essentially break and shake it as many times as you want and it'll just keep recovering?



https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6590986


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: vicepope]
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What are the odds my future grows are wrecked if say I were to open a bag off moldy dust bag of grains?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Frank969] * 2
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The odds are low considering we're surrounded by all types of mold spores daily.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DERRAYLD]
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Getting ready to start my PF Tek.

I have  a couple MSS and a few lcs i Ordered from an online vendor.

They are all untested.

So before anything i kno I need to test on agar. And make transfers until it's clean.

But I don't need to do this with the MS syringe? It can just be put directly to the BRF?

This is what I have read. Need clarification plz.
I still plan on putting the MSS to agar as well so I can clean that up and use it down the line for other applications.

I'm just wanting to kno  whether or not it can be used directly on the brf with positive results?  or how does all of that actually work.

After I master that I would plan to use those cleaned up agar plates and pull out my PC and start making my own grains. So I could do A2G & G2G.


Just about made my way through all of the kits I wasted money  before finding this site.  and all the things my wife bought without my knowledge tryi g to be helpful.  and I'm ready to really do this the right way. So please answer those questions above and let me know if I'm on the right track now?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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Also. Sorry guys I didn't want to post too many questions in one post

once we have clean liquid culture do we use it to inoculate grains? What's the point of having the LC if not? I ask this cuz it seems like everybody prefers to use agar  for grain inoculations instead. Is that just by preference? and I am speaking as if we know for sure the lc is clean.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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You don't need to test anything on agar to use PF tek. The whole point is its resistance to bacterial contamination and small size so in the event of a rogue contaminant, you've only lost a little jar.

You can also go from BRF to agar, once you have germination. Just make a short BRF puck without a top layer of dry verm, and inject it with the syringe in a still air box. When it's got nice growth you can cut out with a scalpel, make that transfer to agar.

The point of LC is to inoculate grains or sometimes Muda bottles (all in ones, look up Muda bottle tek). It usually goes faster than agar wedges, so people like it for that, and it's easy to make enough to inoculate a ton of jars with very little effort. Requires care to ensure it's squeaky clean.

Edited by Phaethon (09/13/24 04:11 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DERRAYLD]
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Whats the reason for a single or a few single wheat grains refusing to get colonized?
I don't think they are contaminated. Picture from a week ago but one or two grains in the jars are still not colonized.
Should I wait or can I just pick them out?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ansr]
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No Mycelium growth at all after 6 day's that's sucks maybe the coco is shit? The Spawn are good no sign of Contam so why is no growth here? Field capacity is OK it's near the dryer side not wet at all..

What's wrong here?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ansr]
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ansr said:
Whats the reason for a single or a few single wheat grains refusing to get colonized?
I don't think they are contaminated. Picture from a week ago but one or two grains in the jars are still not colonized.
Should I wait or can I just pick them out?





Looks like it's fighting yeast.

Fiet how sure you on that spawn.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: vicepope]
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What makes it look like it's fighting yeast? All the jars look similar to that. It's been 20 days since inoculation.

Can it be because of big temperature fluctuations?


Edited by ansr (09/13/24 07:30 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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once you've taken a transfer or two from a streak plate, would you pop that in the fridge to slow growth, maybe come back to?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mackload] * 1
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If you need growth to slow down a bit then yes.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Phaethon]
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Phaethon said:
You don't need to test anything on agar to use PF tek. The whole point is its resistance to bacterial contamination and small size so in the event of a rogue contaminant, you've only lost a little jar.

You can also go from BRF to agar, once you have germination. Just make a short BRF puck without a top layer of dry verm, and inject it with the syringe in a still air box. When it's got nice growth you can cut out with a scalpel, make that transfer to agar.

The point of LC is to inoculate grains or sometimes Muda bottles (all in ones, look up Muda bottle tek). It usually goes faster than agar wedges, so people like it for that, and it's easy to make enough to inoculate a ton of jars with very little effort. Requires care to ensure it's squeaky clean.





Do you have to take any extra measures when making the brf puck without the top dry layer of verm? Cuz doesn't that dry layer help keep it from getting contaminated from the top? Should I be putting micro four tape or something over the holes if I'm not doing the dry layer?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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callmehippie said:
Phaethon said:
You don't need to test anything on agar to use PF tek. The whole point is its resistance to bacterial contamination and small size so in the event of a rogue contaminant, you've only lost a little jar.

You can also go from BRF to agar, once you have germination. Just make a short BRF puck without a top layer of dry verm, and inject it with the syringe in a still air box. When it's got nice growth you can cut out with a scalpel, make that transfer to agar.

The point of LC is to inoculate grains or sometimes Muda bottles (all in ones, look up Muda bottle tek). It usually goes faster than agar wedges, so people like it for that, and it's easy to make enough to inoculate a ton of jars with very little effort. Requires care to ensure it's squeaky clean.





Do you have to take any extra measures when making the brf puck without the top dry layer of verm? Cuz doesn't that dry layer help keep it from getting contaminated from the top? Should I be putting micro four tape or something over the holes if I'm not doing the dry layer?



I've seen people convincingly argue that the dry verm layer is not needed and that it's enough to put a piece of tin foil on top and just leave the jars well alone. The argument being that any contamination with PF would be due to incomplete sterilisation or would occur during inoculation.

That being said, I'd err on the side of caution and either go with the dry verm layer (why wouldn't you, after all?) or slap some micropore tape over the holes.

That way, if you're just starting out, it's easier to determine what may have gone wrong if you do get contamination.

Edit: If you're working with pucks and are planning on transfering to agar from them, I'd definitely bother with the micropore tape/SFDs. To inoculate pucks, open the jars a smidge inside your SAB as described in Josex' Poke and squirt a tiny bit of spore solution in there.

Edited by monorail64 (09/13/24 02:06 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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I was pouring agar earlier in front of an FFU and the agar ending up solidifying right in the middle of me pouring into petri dishes. Can I still be able to reheat it for later use? If so, which is the best way? I have no microwave by the way. I was thinking of putting it in hot/boiling water if that will work, or re-PCing it very quickly just to get it to melt. I stored it in the fridge for now.

And for the presterilized plastic petri dishes that were left over that were fresh out of the packaging.. Are they still considered sterilized? Or will I have to sanitize them before pouring? They were in front of an FFU the whole time and I put them into ziplock bags in front of FFU.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: monorail64]
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Is there any issues with prepping grain and not using it right away? I prepped 14 jars maybe 2-3 weeks ago and put them in a drawer for later. Unmodded lids on tight...I was trying to get it done when I knew I had the time, couldn't see why it would be an issue if I didnt open them, but I saw someones post stating that they wanted to make sure their culture was good before sterilizing grain, which made me wonder if they didnt already have the grain prepped for a reason. Different strokes for different folks and all, it just made me question what I'm doing.


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