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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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SWBZA said:
QQ: I cloned a dense cluster and this happened:



Pull-and-twist does not seem an option.  What is the best way to harvest this flush?

TIA, and happy growing.


Aquarium scissors, scalpel, float it and kitchen knife like So Anyway said

Where thereโ€™s a will thereโ€™s a way!

callmehippie said:
Thank you for all the advice. So far nobody has suggested to ditch it. should I just ditch it and move on?


I would emotionally uninvest and move on, whether that means throwing it away or leaving it in a corner or growing it out as planned, thatโ€™s up to you. But remove the expectation of fruits ๐Ÿ‘ and begin working on your next endeavor


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"Mother Mycelium, I wandered in the darkness of unmarked plates and forgotten codes. Enlighten me with clarity and discipline, that every jar and dish shall bear its true name."

"Luminous Logos, I faltered in my shorthand faith. Grant me the diligence to record in full, and the foresight to recall every meaning with certainty."

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: salubrious]
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I'm getting ready to try the PF Tek.
What kind of verm should I use?

I have some that is extremely fine(like grains of sand) and I also have some that is extremely coarse and large(like gravel). Better yet what should I be using the fine for and what should I be using the very coarse for?

Because the bag of course is a pretty big bag and I wouldn't want it to be wasted. Here's some pictures of what I got







Also when I inoculate the jars does the needle go into the top layer of verm and threw it making contact with the brown rice flour mixture underneath? Or does the needle hover  above the layer of verm on top and the lc put directly on top of it?
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie] * 1
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callmehippie I really hope someone can answer that for you, I asked the question prior to starting pf Tek but nobody answered it so I just went with "professional grade" which was a pretty fine type of vermiculite. So far it's working but I won't know 100% until I get fruits.

Re: inoculation om verm layer vs. BRF... Even if you "miss" the BRF and only hit the vermiculite gravity will still cause it to reach the BRF eventually.


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Edited by QuantumZ00 (08/30/24 12:54 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie] * 2
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fine or medium verm is what you want. put the needle in far enough to get past the dry layer.

i shove it in all the way (which, give or take, will be like 2/3 of the way down in the mixture, and tilt it toward the side of the jar so I can see how much is going in. just a few drops her hole (personally i have four in my lids) is enough

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: silosound] * 1
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How it looks today? B+

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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If I take the jars out your PC after the pressure drops, around how long do they usually take to cool down for inoculation?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Jrey16]
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Is latching your shoeboxes still current and best tek?

My tubs are not airtight (as far as I can tell). No o-ring and I can see a small amount of evaporation occurring because there is no condensation on the lid around the edges of the lid.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: venetian-cubes]
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Fiet said:



How it looks today? B+


Looks okay ๐Ÿ‘


Jrey16 said:
If I take the jars out your PC after the pressure drops, around how long do they usually take to cool down for inoculation?


A couple hours, it can be nice to let them sit overnight


venetian-cubes said:
Is latching your shoeboxes still current and best tek?

My tubs are not airtight (as far as I can tell). No o-ring and I can see a small amount of evaporation occurring because there is no condensation on the lid around the edges of the lid.



Yes


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:drugnerd: TekDeck        Autist Tally :laugh:

"Mother Mycelium, I wandered in the darkness of unmarked plates and forgotten codes. Enlighten me with clarity and discipline, that every jar and dish shall bear its true name."

"Luminous Logos, I faltered in my shorthand faith. Grant me the diligence to record in full, and the foresight to recall every meaning with certainty."

-Father LewDoja

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Just started my first PF grow after 2 successful attempts of growing mold on grain.

I probably should have asked this before inoculating the jars but regarding field capacity, how dry is too dry? And what happens if you inoculate dry PF cakes?
When squeezed the mixture a little water came out between my fingers but there were no drips from below. I used the ratios in the TEK and didn't want to mess with it for fear of messing it up.

Also, I plan on sending my cakes to bulk (provided they are all clean). I'm slightly unsure regarding monitoring surface conditions. Am I right in thinking I should leave it until the bulk is fully colonised then mist as needed to keep water droplets on the surface? Then stop misting again once the pins come through to avoid bacteria?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: venetian-cubes]
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Bunnings warehouse represent :rockon:

I use the "Montgomery 5L Clear Modular Storage Container" from Bunnings that are even cheaper, but they are too sealed to click the lid in place, not a problem just don't click the lid in place and they work fine and only use a couple inches of sub, or don't use the lids, fill them up about 4 inches and put them in a larger ez dial monotub, I can fit 4 x in a 90L monotub :shrug:

I think those Sterilite shoeboxes are designed to allow some FAE for storing shoes, so any tub that isn't Sterilite brand might require some dialing in to find the correct level of FAE.

I have some of the Montgomery 5L tubs I use with 2mm diameter holes in the Ez dial style but without the top FAE holes and the lid not clicked in place for varieties that like more FAE than cubes.

Edited by Dkeppel (08/30/24 04:31 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tri]
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Something came up and I have to inoculate it asap. I usually let it sit overnight but I can't today. Gonna have to take it out while still hot.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Jrey16]
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I got 6 cakes 4 are pinning everywhere. One looks normal and one looks a little concerning. Top pic middle cake




In the bottom Pic it's middle right

The growth seems pretty slow and steady

What do you guys think? What am I looking at? So I can learn what it is. Just thick mycelium I'm guessing?


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Edited by Seriously_trippin (08/30/24 05:11 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Seriously_trippin]
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Is there a point to clone a mushroom that comes from a liquid culture from a clone? Will it be exactly the same or will they evolve if you do that?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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So Anyway said:
How long are you PCing?



I've done 90 minutes with a 10 minute vent each time, hovering between 15-17 psi. This is one of the angles where I think there might be something, because these jars are not "turning bacterial". They are totally resistant to colonization from the first moment.

yoosername said:
StophJS said:


This is clean mycelium colonizing agar just fine. Dropped into this grain in a very sterile still air box. I understand there are common culprits for these things, but there is something at play here consistently in every jar, every time. Now across different grains and different cultures.


Could it be the filters?  Youโ€™re still using stickers, right?


They are stickers but they're glued down with the industrial adhesive I don't recall the name of. They are supposedly 3 microns from Amazon and reviews show other people not having contamination issues.

Smellyhobbit said:
:mitebecool:

Nah but for real itโ€™s almost definitely your technique


It was always my LC and now that I've inoculated with confirmed clean culture it's just something totally non-specific about my technique.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Ben Phartin]
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So the 2nd flush in my all in one grow bag is growing all over the sides of the bag.
I seem to remember reading that you can take the bag off and they'll still grow..or something like this?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Dkeppel]
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Dkeppel said:
Bunnings warehouse represent :rockon:

I use the "Montgomery 5L Clear Modular Storage Container" from Bunnings that are even cheaper, but they are too sealed to click the lid in place, not a problem just don't click the lid in place and they work fine and only use a couple inches of sub, or don't use the lids, fill them up about 4 inches and put them in a larger ez dial monotub, I can fit 4 x in a 90L monotub :shrug:

I think those Sterilite shoeboxes are designed to allow some FAE for storing shoes, so any tub that isn't Sterilite brand might require some dialing in to find the correct level of FAE.

I have some of the Montgomery 5L tubs I use with 2mm diameter holes in the Ez dial style but without the top FAE holes and the lid not clicked in place for varieties that like more FAE than cubes.


Kia Ora mate,

I'm only running 2-4 shoe boxes atm (will be 4 total when my ape jars finishes colonizing in a few days). I was hoping to use the montgomeries for larger batches on my second run whenever that happens, they are a good price. Thanks for the tek link, I'll keep it on hand.

Glad to hear from a local, hard to find info on local brands and stuff sometimes. Cheers mate


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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callmehippie said:
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Smellyhobbit said:
Your bag was extremely bacterial. That gel is bacteria.

I send that at a 1:1 ratio of spawn to substrate and cross every finger and toe you can cross. Expect contamination but hope for mushrooms because itโ€™s not impossible that you could still get some.





How do you mean?    It's already spawn and substrate together since it's an all in one bag. So are you saying just break it all up into a tub and cross my fingers? Or I need to break it up into a tub and add some more substrate?  Am I a fool for even trying at this point? Or should I toss it and just spend my time learning the pf tek  before anything.i mean at this point it's all experimental.


Oh it has substrate. I assumed it didnโ€™t because I thought from the chunk you had in your hand youโ€™d already broken it up.

If you want to try fruiting it, try fruiting it. If a jar I made in house looked like that I would throw it out without hesitation, BUT it would be one of many jars and the loss wouldnโ€™t be felt.

Itโ€™s contaminated. It will probably fail, but weโ€™ve all seen contaminated spawn throw out a few mushrooms. The only thing you have to lose by waiting to see if it fruits is something you were going to throw away anyway.

Definitely start PF tek if thatโ€™s your next step. Always start working on the next project


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: StophJS]
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StophJS said:
It was always my LC and now that I've inoculated with confirmed clean culture it's just something totally non-specific about my technique.


Iโ€™m getting frustrated vibes, but donโ€™t get grumpy. Yes, itโ€™s something non-specific because we donโ€™t watch your process like a football coach trying to show you where you fucked up the play.

Obviously youโ€™re doing something wrong because something is consistently going wrong and you APPEAR to have clean inoculant.

I know people get away with those stickers, but Iโ€™d ditch those for real filters personally. Otherwise youโ€™re going to have to tell us everything and expect some critique. Thatโ€™s literally why youโ€™re here


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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Use 3  - 4 stickers or add mp tape.

They're too risky, I've had multiple jars fail from filter failure using the thin stickers.

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